Harry and Meghan -- Why I dislike them BOTH

[PipinwasAuntieMabelsdog]

I keep seeing threads that say everyone who dislikes the Sussexs is based on some form of racism and I wanted to put my view across. I will set the parameters of my points:

1. Meghan absolutely did receive racist coverage from sections of the British media.

1. I believe that there were threats to their safety by far right loons.
2. I believe they were both unhappy as working members of the RF

However...

I still find them both very disingenuous. They highlight and speak up against the racism of others, whilst failing to address Harry's previous and documented racist behaviour. As a Jew I cannot understand how Meghan can just remain silent about her husbands former mistakes. This makes her seem untrustworthy to me and seems like she will put up with anything for money and cache, whilst arguing (rightly) that racism is totally unacceptable. He keeps saying others need to learn and he is right, but he should acknowledge that he too needed to learn, acknowledge the support needed to help others learn and offer that support to others (including his own family, if needed).

Their attitude towards the public also seems 'off' and ungrateful to me and they seem to collocate the press and the public as the same thing. There is a lot of footage of the public support for them before, during and after their wedding. Yet, apparently, they did not want the big public wedding and the 'UK' was racist towards them. Harry particularly understands the 'deal' between the monarchy and the public and ought to have explained this to Meghan, the comments re the wedding on Oprah came across as quite spiteful and tone deaf. Almost like, 'we suffered through the big wedding for the plebs.' Ditto all the strange behaviour around Archie's birth. They could have followed the Tindall's approach if they wanted to avoid press intrusion.

During financial pressures around the world they are still complaining and not acknowledging their wealth and privilege, whilst claiming to give voice to the needs of those living in poverty and suffering. The Africa interview was a prime example for both of them. It just all comes together to make them feel untrustworthy to me, and makes me dislike them. I do not wish them any ill, but I wish they would acknowledge their fortune and live private, useful lives.

Yet you can criticise and try to silence me and my 'free speech', ok then.

Also i will add that aome of the worst headlines in that Oprah interview credited to the UK were not they were from other countries I've no doubt there were credible threats against her but there were credible threats against Kate against Harry's other long term girlfriend Chelsea? Against all of them its not necessarily because of racism but because she is a woman marrying/dating/being involved with the royal family

I felt more sympathy for the former nanny tiggy? and the vile accusations leveled against her

Agree OP.

I am fed up of being called racist for not liking her behaviour. Isn't it racist to say she's right, can't be wrong or criticised because she has a black mother? She can be right to point out racism around her and not nice! Note, I'm not saying she is or isn't nice, more that it's actually possible that she isn't and her ethnicity doesn't preclude it. Nor does the fact she's been on the receiving end of racism. They're completely unrelated.

Ironically, if they'd just left, talked about the racism she'd received factually and nothing else they could probably have opened a very useful discussion about it. But the whole victim mentality - in that they're victims of basically everybody and everything - and their insistence on portraying this publicly and monetising it, has actively opened up discussion about their characters. Personally I had nothing to say when they left the U.K. other than "good luck with the rest of your lives". Now however, I'm on threads like this because they've made themselves a topic.

@Nolosomi You have attacked me directly on the thread several times, with foul language. I did not ask you to leave the thread, I simply reminded you that you do not have to read or post on threads that upset you as much as this on has.

I have to say I really liked Harry and Meghan and have felt all this bad press is bullying. However..l do now feel they are really drawing these issues out and blowing then way out of proportion. They are hypocrites, Meghan IS annoying, Harry is blindsided and has rose tinted glasses on. Releasing a book called "spare"?? Come on Harry.

If Diana was alive I wonder how she'd feel about that.
They will divorce in 10years I bet.

Is that you, Meghan?

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@Hungrycaterpillarsmummy lol yeah

Yeah I think that's the issue not the talking about it the getting money for talking about it I think that's why the sincerity seems off? but that's probably a me issue I don't trust anyone who is paid to talk about themselves 😂

Hmm yes I do see where you're coming from OP but then I also have a level sympathy for Harry as well - in relation to him being thrown under the bus as media fodder (pre Megxit I mean) while all the other's alleged affairs continued under a blanket of media radio silence, which I think he was cross about ( but handled immaturely though)

.. Unlike his brother I think he's in a happy marriage so I'd give him that

I agree with the sentiment that I am tired of seeing people lambasted as racists for daring to dislike a mixed race Woman.

The fact that she rubs people the wrong way has absolutely fuck all to do with race, it's because she often presents as smug, superior, outspoken and hypocritical, traits that Brits in particular often find distasteful (while they may be viewed differently in the US).

There are lots of smug and entitled people in the public eye that I don't care for, and they occupy a wide range of demographics. If I say out loud that Piers Morgan or Katie Hopkins piss me off then that's fine, I'm allowed an opinion. If I say Meghan pisses me off, I'm racist 🤷🏻‍♀️

So Harry should be forgiven for something he actually did, but the RF are to be condemned for their ancestors? And why have you missed Harry out of that? If William is to be held responsible for colonialism and expected to pay reparations then why not Harry too? Harry has the same ancestors as William.

No one knows what’s going on with M and H. But if the genders were reversed it would be easy to think what peoples opinions of the relationship was. Harry is not bright, entitled and oblivious and he wanted to secure Meghan. Meghan wanted to be a Princess, have loads of money, and have everyone live of every word. She needs to be
reflect and can’t be criticised. It wasn’t what she thought and her husband was a useless entitled man child who couldn’t even get her help when she was struggling. They cling to eachother and the world is evil. Yet the world continues and they keep living in toxicity because they need money to sustain their lifestyle. I think Harry wanted out but he didn’t want this. She wanted exactly this.

Also there is no evidence the royal family is racist. They tried to make out Archie wasn’t a Prince because of his skin colour. What was just insane.

As vile a word as you get in the UK BUT I don’t think he used that, he usEd one ai have never heard ‘rag head.’

@AuroraCake he used 'r*d' and 'my lil' P** friend in the same incident.

He used both terms.

Here recorded himself saying, "Ah, our little Paki friend Ahmed."

I mean he didn't mean it nastily. They really were friends. But obviously it was totally unacceptable to say it.

I wish they would both go away.

Christ we are all ignorant once I suppose but Christ I don’t think I have ever intentionally used any such blatantly obviously language. I freely admit that there were probably many unintential micro aggressions which I am continuing to be aware of myself…but that’s called growth.

It’s bullying. Belittling. At the very least.