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Harry and Meghan -- Why I dislike them BOTH

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PipinwasAuntieMabelsdog · 03/12/2022 23:02

I keep seeing threads that say everyone who dislikes the Sussexs is based on some form of racism and I wanted to put my view across. I will set the parameters of my points:

  1. Meghan absolutely did receive racist coverage from sections of the British media.
  1. I believe that there were threats to their safety by far right loons.
  2. I believe they were both unhappy as working members of the RF

However...

I still find them both very disingenuous. They highlight and speak up against the racism of others, whilst failing to address Harry's previous and documented racist behaviour. As a Jew I cannot understand how Meghan can just remain silent about her husbands former mistakes. This makes her seem untrustworthy to me and seems like she will put up with anything for money and cache, whilst arguing (rightly) that racism is totally unacceptable. He keeps saying others need to learn and he is right, but he should acknowledge that he too needed to learn, acknowledge the support needed to help others learn and offer that support to others (including his own family, if needed).

Their attitude towards the public also seems 'off' and ungrateful to me and they seem to collocate the press and the public as the same thing. There is a lot of footage of the public support for them before, during and after their wedding. Yet, apparently, they did not want the big public wedding and the 'UK' was racist towards them. Harry particularly understands the 'deal' between the monarchy and the public and ought to have explained this to Meghan, the comments re the wedding on Oprah came across as quite spiteful and tone deaf. Almost like, 'we suffered through the big wedding for the plebs.' Ditto all the strange behaviour around Archie's birth. They could have followed the Tindall's approach if they wanted to avoid press intrusion.

During financial pressures around the world they are still complaining and not acknowledging their wealth and privilege, whilst claiming to give voice to the needs of those living in poverty and suffering. The Africa interview was a prime example for both of them. It just all comes together to make them feel untrustworthy to me, and makes me dislike them. I do not wish them any ill, but I wish they would acknowledge their fortune and live private, useful lives.

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gettingoldisshit · 02/05/2023 12:02

I feel really sorry for him after watching that!

Quokkasarecutest · 02/05/2023 14:00

His 'loss' of a daughter gives off very similar vibes to the loss of a prized work of art that was stolen or a rare breed of cat which escaped his clutches. He was deeply in awe of her in an unhealthy way

I really disagree with this, I think it’s a very nasty thing to say. The guy obviously loves his daughter, yes he’s proud of her. He watched her grow up, supported her, was very involved in her life. He wasn’t as close to his older children because he moved away after the divorce.

Xenia · 02/05/2023 16:20

Quokkasarecutest, I agree with you. He jujst wants to see her one to one in private, no conditions. He just wants to make it right before he dies.

mixedrecycling · 02/05/2023 22:05

She does seem to have been the centre of his world, and to have appreciated his love and support, until it became inconvenient

Rockybooboo · 03/05/2023 21:40

mixedrecycling · 02/05/2023 22:05

She does seem to have been the centre of his world, and to have appreciated his love and support, until it became inconvenient

Of he loves her so much, why is at with a guy who haa.ridiculed her w with black face and said Doris should have swa allowed the night of Meghan's conception. Why is gheoing on GB News where they slay off Meghan

Sagharbor · 03/05/2023 22:34

Whaeanui · 19/04/2023 08:02

This is nonsensical. People that don’t agree with your conclusions based on your perceptions on someone’s behaviour motivations and decisions are not ‘living in an alternate reality’. It’s incredibly rude to say people here are ‘off’ compared to the rest of the forum, or that our opinions are based on ‘vested interests’ or ‘PR’ ( if we are somebody’s PR we would be paid ). The fact is this board is overwhelmingly negative and anti Meghan and Harry so any pushback at all and the regulars start with this, almost daily, ‘ bots’ ‘PR’ ‘out of touch with reality’ type comments. It’s incredibly childish to think any pushback against the main opinion here is to be looked at with this kind of doubt and scorn. I think it’s far stranger to spend your days repeating the same negative opinions, based largely on tabloid gossip and your own made-up scenarios about someone else’s life and family. It’s like a sport on these boards, and in this country. You live in a bubble and can’t see how others outside it actually view this endless unkind pointless nastiness. This narrative you’re just observing and responding to their behaviour has no validity when Meghan is rarely seen and the comments are based on what the press has told you. Talk about living outside of reality, most of the comments on the board aren’t anything to do with behaviour at all, most are based on what the press has told you and that, that really is not reality. There really isn’t anything unusual or crazy about defending people who have been bullied, whether they’re present or not. They don’t have to be perfect, or a ‘brilliant humanitarian’ or a Prince. They just have to be human, and have done absolutely nothing to me.

As for ‘reporting you at every turn’. I got reported for saying ‘Jfc’. Really. So it goes both ways.

@Whaeanui

You are spot on re this:

"You live in a bubble and can’t see how others outside it actually view this endless unkind pointless nastiness. "

Blip · 04/05/2023 08:39

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HopeMumsnet · 04/05/2023 08:50

Hi all,
Just popping on to say that we take a dim view of counting up how often people post on here. We're a discussion site, we're happiest when MNers discuss, and unhappy when MNers make things personal instead of sticking to the issue at hand.

Roussette · 04/05/2023 08:54

Thank you @HopeMumsnet

I really appreciate that having been subjected to this many a time.

Quokkasarecutest · 04/05/2023 09:56

Some people do post a lot!! I can’t imagine how they find the time

Rockybooboo · 04/05/2023 10:06

Quokkasarecutest · 04/05/2023 09:56

Some people do post a lot!! I can’t imagine how they find the time

Maybe I'm in hospital or maybe I'm an unemployed person who should be looking for a job or maybe I'm one off the people already queuing for the coronation already and need to fill the hours.

You don't have to wonder as it's not your business.

Ohnonevermind · 04/05/2023 10:13

@Rockybooboo

I’ve no idea who or what you do, but I do highly recommend taking plenty of breaks.

Rockybooboo · 04/05/2023 10:48

Ohnonevermind · 04/05/2023 10:13

@Rockybooboo

I’ve no idea who or what you do, but I do highly recommend taking plenty of breaks.

I do but what do you say that? Are you concerned for my welfare which I ensure you is fine or having a passive aggressive dig?

Ohnonevermind · 04/05/2023 10:57

@Rockybooboo

Honestly, I meant it well. Feel free to ignore too.

There’s a lot of passion on these threads, but it can turn very toxic

Xenia · 04/05/2023 11:04

If no one posts on places like this there is no MN. I post a lot. My mental heatlh is fine and I am very happy. I work for myself and work from home and always have a lot to say. I think I just about never read any thread and not then post so the opposite of a lurker

Whaeanui · 04/05/2023 12:18

Gosh, seems like someone was overly concerning themselves about my posting on a thread I haven’t been on for days now because someone quoted a post I made two weeks ago! The whole world is online every day. It takes seconds to post, so no need to concern yourself.

TheaBrandt · 04/05/2023 12:50

Same Xenia I work for myself and post when I’m waiting for a document to print!

ThighMistress · 04/05/2023 17:59

I only notice a few names. It is a bit Hmm though when the most prolific posters start on about why do people post about M&H. The silliest accusation is “do they live in your head rent free?” when those posters have an encyclopaedic knowledge of all things royal and have Kate v Meghan spreadsheets and all sorts.

They’re at liberty to do that of course, but then they should rein in the hypocrisy about being “obsessed” and “hating”. As if!!

Rockybooboo · 04/05/2023 18:01

ThighMistress · 04/05/2023 17:59

I only notice a few names. It is a bit Hmm though when the most prolific posters start on about why do people post about M&H. The silliest accusation is “do they live in your head rent free?” when those posters have an encyclopaedic knowledge of all things royal and have Kate v Meghan spreadsheets and all sorts.

They’re at liberty to do that of course, but then they should rein in the hypocrisy about being “obsessed” and “hating”. As if!!

I don't think I've posted about Will and Kate.

BeverlyHa · 04/05/2023 18:41

they are just having money from whatever they are called in this life. Nothing amazing or special about neither of them. I do not like them also

adey67 · 28/06/2023 19:59

Harry's mother went to a lot of effort to educate her sons as to just how fortunate and privileged they are. It would seem that only one of her sons took on board those lessons, Waagh is a disgrace to his mother's legacy.

regustering · 03/07/2023 20:31

Please link to racist abuse from the uk
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