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myrtleWilson · 30/11/2022 12:42

Awful story just broken on twitter about horrendous racist questioning from Lady Hussey to Ngozi Fulani from Sister Space at yesterdays VAWG event.

Lady Hussey has resigned.

[Edited by MNHQ to correct typo at OP's request]

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ShirleyPhallus · 06/12/2022 14:20

AnnunciataZ · 06/12/2022 14:17

Shame that Ngozi couldn't have gently educated Lady H in how not to racially offend.

It's really not the job of people of colour to "educate" whites people, just as it isn't up to women to educate men, disabled people to educate the abled etc etc. What happened to taking the initiative and picking up a book?

Brilliant. Would you make that suggestion for a burglar too? “Sorry, I know you’re in the middle of robbing my home, but could I just stop and tell you for a moment why what you’re doing is wrong?”

RedWingBoots · 06/12/2022 14:20

AnnunciataZ · 06/12/2022 14:19

I agree. Instead they just delete threads and the racists carry on.

They sign up again with a new email address.

Namechangedforthisonetoday · 06/12/2022 14:21

ShirleyPhallus · 06/12/2022 14:20

Brilliant. Would you make that suggestion for a burglar too? “Sorry, I know you’re in the middle of robbing my home, but could I just stop and tell you for a moment why what you’re doing is wrong?”

Yes so true. You can then bet LSH would have been all flustered and Ngozi would have been hit with that classic insult to a black woman of ‘being aggressive’.

antelopevalley · 06/12/2022 14:22

RedWingBoots · 06/12/2022 14:20

They sign up again with a new email address.

So racists are being banned?
I am glad at least if that is happening. But the site is over run by them. Seriously considering deregistering.

AnnunciataZ · 06/12/2022 14:25

I'm pretty sure MNHQ can block IP addresses, which would also block reregistering, so why don't they?

Namechangedforthisonetoday · 06/12/2022 14:26

antelopevalley · 06/12/2022 14:22

So racists are being banned?
I am glad at least if that is happening. But the site is over run by them. Seriously considering deregistering.

See I’m not sure they are. I’ve reported some really shitty comments and been told ‘why don’t you challenge them name’? So I think they pick and choose.

Namechangedforthisonetoday · 06/12/2022 14:27

You’ve also got the issue that a lot of the white middle class women policing forums wouldn’t know a micro aggression if it slapped them in the face.

F4chrissakes · 06/12/2022 14:28

AnnunciataZ
"Shame that Ngozi couldn't have gently educated Lady H in how not to racially offend.

It's really not the job of people of colour to "educate" whites people, just as it isn't up to women to educate men, disabled people to educate the abled etc etc. What happened to taking the initiative and picking up a book?"

What book would that be then? Because I offend people inadvertently (look down thread for proof) and I'd like to be educated in their point of view so as not to cause offence. At least when I don't mean to. And I daresay Lady H is the same - she did not mean to cause offence. Perhaps she should read this book also.

antelopevalley · 06/12/2022 14:28

@Namechangedforthisonetoday That is what I had seen happening before. And the peace and love comment from MNHQ on a thread with lots of racism just made me wonder if they themselves are a bit clueless about racism.

RishisProudMum · 06/12/2022 14:29

Racists aren’t being banned. MN knows their core fan base. There’s lip service paid to diversity, but it’s all ultimately meaningless.

Namechangedforthisonetoday · 06/12/2022 14:30

The peace and love comment gives me the ick.

antelopevalley · 06/12/2022 14:30

@RishisProudMum Very depressing?
Maybe we should all leave and let the racists take over? With nobody challenging it would become crystal clear what kind of site this is.

F4chrissakes · 06/12/2022 14:32

"I guess you are happy as an adult with people touching your hair all the time because it is different from their own."

Well yes, and it has happened to me as an adult, and I couldn't give a fig, either then or now. But I'd never do it to anyone else. Because I wouldn't want to offend them.

AnnunciataZ · 06/12/2022 14:33

F4chrissakes · 06/12/2022 14:28

AnnunciataZ
"Shame that Ngozi couldn't have gently educated Lady H in how not to racially offend.

It's really not the job of people of colour to "educate" whites people, just as it isn't up to women to educate men, disabled people to educate the abled etc etc. What happened to taking the initiative and picking up a book?"

What book would that be then? Because I offend people inadvertently (look down thread for proof) and I'd like to be educated in their point of view so as not to cause offence. At least when I don't mean to. And I daresay Lady H is the same - she did not mean to cause offence. Perhaps she should read this book also.

Are you unable to use Google for some reason? There's quite a lot of books out there on how to be anti-racist. You just have to search for them. But then I guess you'd have to want to not be a racist so...

RishisProudMum · 06/12/2022 14:34

@antelopevalley Over the last few days, it’s honestly started to feel like that. Like we should just bugger off for the sake of our mental health and let them have a racist love in.

Anyway, books for people who wish to inform themselves (I shan’t hold my breath):

  • Why I'm No Longer Talking to White People About Race by Reni Eddo Lodge.
  • Natives: Race and Class in the Ruins of Empire by Akala.
  • Brit(ish): On Race, Identity and Belonging by Afua Hirsch
antelopevalley · 06/12/2022 14:36

@RishisProudMum I know what you mean. Things have got much worse on this site for racism.

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F4chrissakes · 06/12/2022 14:44

Well ThighMistress, that's you and me told. Guess we'd both better STFU then.

F4chrissakes · 06/12/2022 14:48

Actually, it's a shame that anyone thinks it's alright to tell someone else to STFU. Because it is offensive. And this whole thread is about someone being offended.

antelopevalley · 06/12/2022 14:51

This whole thread is about racism.

F4chrissakes · 06/12/2022 14:56

Well, you won't stop racism by telling people to STFU. Education is what is needed, not insults.

ShirleyPhallus · 06/12/2022 14:59

F4chrissakes · 06/12/2022 14:48

Actually, it's a shame that anyone thinks it's alright to tell someone else to STFU. Because it is offensive. And this whole thread is about someone being offended.

See this is the tip of the wedge of people not believing in racism. The thread is not about someone “being offended”, it’s about someone being the victim of racism and whether it’s dog whistle or overt or whether people just don’t believe in racism.

Again, on a thread about someone being burgled, would you say the thread is about someone being “offended” about a burglar breaking in to their house?

RishisProudMum · 06/12/2022 15:01

F4chrissakes · 06/12/2022 14:56

Well, you won't stop racism by telling people to STFU. Education is what is needed, not insults.

You have been given a list of books to read, but ignored it. You don’t want education.

You want victims of racism to ‘have a quiet word’ in the ear of racists. Anything that’s been said to you after that whopper was richly deserved.

F4chrissakes · 06/12/2022 15:05

Blimey, give us a chance RishisProudMum. You've kindly listed some reading for me, give me half a mo' to actually read then.

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