The Crown - Next Series

[antelopevalley]

The next series will be starting on the 9th of November. Imelda Staunton will be playing the Queen. Tobias Menzies is playing Philip.

Historical events we’re likely to see in season 5 of The Crown:
Prince Andrew’s divorce
Princess Anne’s divorce
Windsor Castle fire
The separation/divorce of Prince Charles and Lady Diana
The Queen sues The Sun newspaper
The death of Princess Diana
Tony Blair becomes Prime Minister
www.whats-on-netflix.com/news/the-crown-season-5-on-netflix-everything-we-know-so-far-09-2022/

Who will be watching it?

I think it will get a huge audience. People are very interested in the whole Charles/Diana saga.

I'm just catching up with this thread.

The queen may have had a paternal relationship with Churchill in the 1950s but the royals did not admire Churchill pre ww2. They much preferred Camberlain the appeaser . Probably because they had so many relatives in Germany.
So the initial frostiness portrayed may be reflecting that truth .

I thought the episode 'Fagan' (season 4) was fantastic

I thought the Fagan one was particularly bad, trying to link it to Thatcher’s Britain. The scenes of him wandering around the palace were quite funny though.

Why would they have to 'try ' to link it ?

In my opinion it wasn't meant to Fagan's story exactly . He was representative of all the people on their uppers in Thatcher's Britain .
And the episode was pitching the two women against each other . And also highlighting that 'Fagan's ' appeal to the queen was useless as she was unaware, out of touch and politically powerless .

The scene where Thatcher cut the audience short to go to her victory parade was funny . A rival court

I completely agree with what you’ve said, I’m looking forward to the next series too. It’s drama it’s not presented as a bloody documentary. I do think though it would not hurt to have a disclaimer on at the start for people who are too daft to realise this

The main events are real
Perhaps if the royals werent so obsessed with total secrecy and making sure they are exempt from the Freedom of information Act there would have been more publicly available material

Can't really have it both ways can they?

It doesn't matter how often you type 'it's real' - even the makers say it isn't.
It's frankly hilarious that despite the entire The Crown team consistently saying it's fictious; it's drama; and the events come from Morgan's imagination - people still pretend it's real. Of course those Crown 'truthers' only prove that Morgan and Netflix are wrong to trust viewers' basic intelligence. I wonder what the Venn diagram overlap is for QAnon conspiracy types and Crown truthers.

The reason so many people believe it is real is because it is based on real events (events and people we recognise, recreating royal tours & outfits they wore etc. that we all recognise as having happened, mimicking rumours we heard in the press at the time)

It's all the rest that is tagged on that is pure fiction it is just damaging and hurtful gossip, but many viewers (particularly foreign viewers who don't know a lot about the RF) lap it up.

It isn't fair what Netflix are doing and I find it unforgivable that Harry is on their payroll and says nothing. It really is all about money to him.

Pretty sure "foreign viewers" are still able to distinguish fact from fiction

And really, the attempts to blame Harry are getting silly now. Lots of posters don't seem to realise how contracts or streaming giants work.

I agree that it’s unlikely that Netflix would make changes based on Harry’s views however he could / should show his concerns by walking away from Netflix.

Lol . Now Harry is responsible for Netflix . Right...

The royals must rattled .
Good .

Maybe instead of working round the clock to try to ban Netflix series ( as they banned bbc interviews) they could address the REAL
abuse issues re their own family Andrew , Mountbatten , etc

No ? Oh thought not

I agree that it’s unlikely that Netflix would make changes based on Harry’s views however he could / should show his concerns by walking away from Netflix.

"Unlikely" is putting it mildly. Harry doesn't exactly have the influence people on here think he has! And if he walked away he'd be in breach of contract.

Harry has zero influence on anything and wouldn’t know what happened in any case as he was either not yet born or a small child.
But I agree with the people that say it is hypocritical of him to criticise the press ,bbc etc for press intrusion but give Netflix a pass. But he needs the money I guess so imo is willing to put his principals to one side ( like everyone he criticises). That is hypocrisy.

@sashagabadon
Well if you are accusing people of hypocrisy where do we start with the royal pantomime !
How long have you got ?

Or is it a case that it only applies to Harry ?

Harry is more obviously hypocritical as he is in a financial relationship with Netflix which is a clear conflict of interest obviously. You could argue the other royals may also be hypocritical ( wanting publicity to high light good causes but not at other times) but it’s not for financial reasons. They do not have contracts with media companies to produce content as far as I am aware ( Edward being a similar hypocrite when he had a media company stalking William at university a couple of decades ago)

@sashagabadon
Financial reasons ! That's your distinction ?
You do realise the royals are worth billions - all unearned ? And god knows what nefarious doings behind the scenes - more and more coming to light , despite the efforts of decades of suppression
But that's ok with you .
I'm afraid your attempt to draw a distinction does not follow .

I think we’ll have to agree to disagree novella. Both our opinions are equally valid 😊

Agree @Novella4. Hypocrisy and the royal family go hand in hand!

I"m looking forward to it OP.

It is fact based.

People who protest that it's all fiction. Really. It's a bit like saying the Netflix Jeffrey Dahmer series is all lies. Newsflash : it all happened, he killed all those people ! The evidence and testimony is a bit disjointed to keep the series flowing : things are said by different people in different scenarios etc. (Great acting and filmmaking, btw, deserves every award going).

Back to the Crown.

The palace doth protest too much. After their whitewash of Camilla's image, this season will remind everyone and show younger generations what hell Charles and Camilla put Diana through. And I love that for them.

Diana said there were 3 people in her marriage. It looks like there are 3 people in Camilla and Charles marriage, and that is the legend of Diana. She will haunt them forever.

Also, Netflix is hopefully going to say 'Hold my beer' after the release and denials and trend the HBO Diana documentary, like they did with Diana in her own words - in which Diana actually confirms the Camilla affair was ongoing.

The palace isn't protesting. The reason Netflix are rattled is because their paying viewers are protesting...oh, and a former PM. Plus Jemima Khan who came on as an adviser on Diana storylines because they were friends, but walked away and asked for her name to be removed because she felt the Diana storylines were disrespectful and inaccurate. Then there's the many others from staff to Diana's family that have complained.

And actually the criticism of The Crown has benefitted Harry. Netflix are so rattled they're considering pushing back Harry's documentary till next year. Harry and Meghan had been trying to get it pushed back.

It makes all the gfs on here seem just that. They're not being supportive of Harry and Meghan with their stance. They're not helping The Crown team by proving people do believe it. Basically they're just the sort of people who'd cause a fight in an empty house.

Don't know what your on about.

Netflix stood their ground. They are not rattled. They are not putting in any disclaimer !

Jemima Khan, Dame Judy etc. all know where their bread is buttered, and it seems (like William) they don't care what Diana herself said. Seeing she is no longer here.

As for H&M. Don't see what they have to do with anything.
Have you seen Netflix lately ? They are riding on the morbid, but fascinating doc-series as I had stated above of true crime. They will just bide their time and release H&M's 'romantic' series when the wave goes that way. Personally, my thoughts are around the Bridgeton hype time (the public will be lapping up 'royal love' then).

Also, did you actually have as much issues with William criticising the BBC for the Diana interview, while also airing his Earthshot project then?

Harry himself said, it was all dramatisation and understands it as such.

Also, were we not told that the royals enjoyed it at the beginning (before Charles and Camilla were exposed, that is).

@PoundShopPrincess
Subscriptions are up 800% so I don't think Netflix are bothered if a few cancel .