The Queen died at 3:10pm of 'old age'

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I can't quite remember the timings of news reports on the day. Was the Queen already deceased when the news were saying the doctors are 'concerned for her health'?

I wonder did the rest of the Royals see the Queen’s body to say goodbye when they arrived at Balmoral after she died

I doubt it would have made any difference. She died at 3.10 realistically the plane would have needed to land by 2.20, the flight time is probably 1.20h so it would needed to have left London by about 1.00.

In my previous job I would have seen a lot of death certificates. You did occasionally see one where it said only old age. One phrase sticks on my mind and that is general debility of old age

A lot of people commenting won’t yet have experienced the death of a parent and generally grandchildren are less involved when their grandparent dies.

My understanding is that ailments are only listed if they have an impact. So a person with lung cancer, who contracts pneumonia, then dies, has the primary cause of death as pneumonia and secondary as lung cancer. If an elderly person has a stage 3 cancerous tumour and dies of old age, the tumour is not listed as it is irrelevant.

The ones I saw in NI didn't have the time on them nor was I asked when registering my dm death.

Why are some people so determined to find a conspiracy in almost anything.

Old age is a perfectly normal thing to put as a cause of death. The Queen was 96!! That is surely very old in anyone's book. Why are people surprised by this?

It had become clear over the previous year or so that the Queen's physical capabilities were in decline. That much was obvious from the sheer number of cancelled engagements and from the number of times that Charles and/or William stood in for her. All of that can be explained by old age.

We aren't entitled to know all of the finer and more intimate details. That is just not necessary.

Maybe the doctor heard the ‘rumble’ and called everyone to go be with her. The news came at Midday, but I’m sure her family were already travelling up by then.

At least they can't blame Harry. Not that I'm an H &M fan - can see both sides.

I think the family started preparing to go to Balmoral around midday at about the same time the news came out that she was under medical supervision. But only Charles and Anne were there in time before she died.

What?

Yes I think so too when Charles got that call so would the rest of the family.

Organising the plane and getting the family together wouldn't have been a 5 minute job.

It would have been hard to forgive Harry if he'd held the plane up and that's what stopped them seeing her.

But that who faffing around much have just added to everyone's stress levels.

Surely there was never any doubt that this would be the cause of death regardless of any other conditions? The Royal Family take the long view - all their speeches and announcements need to stand the test of time. The history books will record HMQ had a long successful reign, lived to a fine age and died peacefully of old age and that is what people will learn in history lessons in 50-100 years time.

Maybe the doctor heard the ‘rumble’ and called everyone to go be with her. The news came at Midday, but I’m sure her family were already travelling up by then.

No Charles got a call at 12.30. And the others didn't make it in time.

Most people dying of old age slip into unconsciousness before they die, whether it's a few days or a few hours so very unlikely that that 30 mins would have made much difference.

Lucky Queen, dying peacefully at home with her family and close staff around her.
I'm glad she had a relatively swift and easy end.

It says 'old age' to afford her some privacy, as it did on Philip's. Dr's are not encouraged now to use that term, alone, on a death certificate and there are all kinds of qualifications advised if it is used. However, no one actually officially scrutinises death certificates once they are written so they have some leeway, particularly as she was not in a hospital or any kind of medical facility.

I'm a hospital doctor - we are discouraged from writing "old age" as mostly people die from infection etc. I have a suspicion they have kept it blank to honour her privacy (although it is a legal document and should be completed to the best of your knowledge)

Was there a false announcement? I got to work in the us at 7.30 am which was 3.30 pm UK time and someone offered condolences as they had heard the queen had died. Then of course I checked and saw she was still alive...later that day the person said OK now it is official at 11.30 by which time it was so I assumed it had been announced by that time?

Lol. See both sides of someone dying? What?

She died earlier.

I think there might have been a false post on Twitter that was later withdrawn by someone, but I can't remember who. I'm in the US as well and I was following the news very closely and heard it at 1:30 my time (Eastern US) when the official announcement was issued. There was also rampant speculation as well, with people online assuming that she had died before it was officially announced, which of course, turned out to be true. Some of that speculation was on MN.

I had read previously that the then Prince Charles was visiting her every day from Birkhall, where he was staying. When she started to decline, Charles and Camilla were about to host a reception somewhere, so all those attendees, must gave been aware, that something was up.
They wanted to get Edward, Andrew, Sophie and William there asap, so pretty obvious when they all flew from RAF Northolt (I think).
Then they wanted to inform family members before the press. Lady Colin Campbell has stated the news was released on one or two newspaper websites, but then withdrawn. However, BBC presenters started changing into dark suits and ties. But the government (and obviously as we saw some opposition members) were informed of her sudden decline. I imagine that some Commonwealth countries also had to be informed before the announcement.
So, I guess too many people were aware, before the official press release.

Ah ok Seneca thanks, I am West coast so it may have just been speculation that had people tell me she had died.I was so shocked and teary and that was before she died as she was still alive at that time- 3.30 in the UK I guess...and then honestly no one really gave a fig over here, the odd person but basically it was not a big deal in the US at all was my experience.I felt sad she was gone.

My father died in Scotland aged 87. His death certificate says that he died of old age.

The Jenna BH article doesn't say the queen died earlier. It says C and C were called away at 12.30 because the Queen was ill.

And as for Lady CC - there's no way she would have had any inside info. Being a lady doesn't make her privy to anything and she certainly isn't close to the royal family. Plus she's such a gossip she would be the last anyone would tell!

Everyone knew as soon as the news broke at lunchtime that the Queen was very ill on her deathbed. That's quite different from her having already died and people knowing.