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The Queen died at 3:10pm of 'old age'

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LadybirdsLadybirds · 29/09/2022 15:34

news.sky.com/story/queens-cause-of-death-revealed-as-extract-of-certificate-published-12707655

I can't quite remember the timings of news reports on the day. Was the Queen already deceased when the news were saying the doctors are 'concerned for her health'?

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Ifailed · 29/09/2022 16:16

YumYummy · 29/09/2022 16:07

Has the Queen died?

Apparently, who'd of known?

AutumnalLeaves38 · 29/09/2022 16:26

@Whylurkwhenicanjoinin

Dad died at 91 last year and we weren't allowed to see him in hospital during the six weeks leading up to him passing, sad for them, sad for us 😥

Am so sorry. What a heartbreaking situation.

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 29/09/2022 16:30

AppleDumplingWithCustard · 29/09/2022 16:04

If you look at the cause of death there is also typed b, c, d and II. This is not printed on death certs but typed by the registrar if there is more than one cause. The only cause of death they are revealing is old age but there were clearly others that have been omitted.

Both my nans had multiple reasons typed on their official death certificates. The printed certificates contain the same information.

LATBOTG · 29/09/2022 16:34

Time of death is the time she was certified (Dr comes and checks for signs of life) as being dead. This could in fact be hours after she actually died or it could be accurate to the minute.

Princessglittery · 29/09/2022 16:40

I believed at the time, and still do, that the announcements were to prepare us all for the news of her death.

Much better than suddenly hearing the national anthem then the formal announcement.

dianekeatonsocks · 29/09/2022 16:40

LATBOTG · 29/09/2022 16:34

Time of death is the time she was certified (Dr comes and checks for signs of life) as being dead. This could in fact be hours after she actually died or it could be accurate to the minute.

This exactly
I certify deaths hours after they happen sometimes (often)
it is good to be sure!!!
Though there may have been a doctor there at the time monitoring her and her time of death may be quite accurate, she could have just as easily died around lunchtime or so.

dianekeatonsocks · 29/09/2022 16:43

I would think she could have died already when they were informed in the commons.

dianekeatonsocks · 29/09/2022 16:46

Butitsnotfunnyisititsserious · 29/09/2022 16:30

Both my nans had multiple reasons typed on their official death certificates. The printed certificates contain the same information.

Printed certificates do contain the same information
while no doubt right, it’s rare for old age to be actually listed as cause of death

667TheNeighbourOfTheBeast · 29/09/2022 16:47

Cookerhood · 29/09/2022 15:56

Old age & no other contributing factors? Unusual I would have thought.
My mum had
Kidney failure, frailty, COPD on hers. The kidney failure was what made the end inevitable. You'd think something must have happened on the morning of the day she died.

I agree it seems strange baring in mind she was up and about meeting Liz Truss couple of days before. I suppose it’s about privacy or dignity etc . I think I read earlier that if she had died in England they would not have had to release the death certificate

EdithWeston · 29/09/2022 16:48

The first 'under medical supervision' announcement was at about 12;30. So there were doctors in attendance.

The PM has later said that she was informed at about 4;30, which is when the major British channels changed schedules (part of the London Bridge plan)

Which meant there was only 40 minutes privacy for the family, and during which they could tell those who they wanted to inform before the news broke more widely (all the cousins and close friends). That's really not long

EdithWeston · 29/09/2022 16:52

Sorry - maths wrong!

Death was recorded at 3:10, so that was 80minutes. Still not very long, to sit, absorb, be peaceful, and then have it all break

BigButtons · 29/09/2022 16:55

My mum did sometime in the night on 6th April this year- at home. It could have been before midnight on the 5th though. No time of death was recorded.

WinnieTheW0rm · 29/09/2022 16:58

667TheNeighbourOfTheBeast · 29/09/2022 16:47

I agree it seems strange baring in mind she was up and about meeting Liz Truss couple of days before. I suppose it’s about privacy or dignity etc . I think I read earlier that if she had died in England they would not have had to release the death certificate

But they may well have chosen to though.

That of George VI was published, and he died at Sandringham

Old age was also the official cause of death for Prince Phillip

It probably means there were a number of parts of the body that were wearing out, that the death was unsurprising, and that the nitty gritty of health issues are being kept, quite properly, private.

asblindasabat · 29/09/2022 17:06

Surely because she had doctors with her as she was under medical supervision that 3.10 would have been the time she actually died?

some say that her death may have been verified after she actually died but surely her death would have been verified right away?

asblindasabat · 29/09/2022 17:07

Hours after she actually died *

DorritLittle · 29/09/2022 17:08

With my Gran (89) we were able to all come up and visit knowing she would die, also from old age. As a pp said, she had gone into a coma and it was the end of her life. Then, nearer the actual time of her death, the nursing home was able to let my DM and uncle know that it was almost time because her breathing changed. It can be quite a long process, in my Gran's case around 48 hours. But the nursing staff did say it was usually quicker than this.

Iliveonahill · 29/09/2022 17:17

Many families are not with their loved ones when they die. If you are, it can be stressful or peaceful or something in between. The medical staff that are with the dying are generally fantastic.

dianekeatonsocks · 29/09/2022 17:17

asblindasabat · 29/09/2022 17:06

Surely because she had doctors with her as she was under medical supervision that 3.10 would have been the time she actually died?

some say that her death may have been verified after she actually died but surely her death would have been verified right away?

It would not be right away but may have been soon after if a doctor was there
it’s not v nice to verify death immediately and there is no rush if relatives are on their way etc
she may have had cardiac monitoring etc
but either way she’d have died some time before 3.10

catandcoffee · 29/09/2022 17:22

My Mothers death certificate has the exact time of death, to the minute. 23hrs.18mins

DWMoosmum · 29/09/2022 17:32

I think she ordered herself to be euthanised, like the late Queen Victoria. I mean, she was the queen, she was old, poor and had had enough, who would stop her?

DorritLittle · 29/09/2022 17:34

I suspect that too.

FromageRouge · 29/09/2022 17:34

DWMoosmum · 29/09/2022 17:32

I think she ordered herself to be euthanised, like the late Queen Victoria. I mean, she was the queen, she was old, poor and had had enough, who would stop her?

Old and poor?! The Queen?

I doubt she needed euthanasia. Being in your mid 90s and widowed is quite enough to help you fade.

I do think she planned to die in Scotland, though. As a last boost to the union.

Croque · 29/09/2022 17:35

"Old age" they wrote .. well I never!

DWMoosmum · 29/09/2022 17:38

Mary Nightingale, who announced it on ITV, already knew way before. She mentioned the queen in the past tense a couple of times.

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 29/09/2022 17:40

Victoria wasn't euthanised (that I'm aware of, never seen that mentioned). George V was, so his death was announced in the Times and not the tabloids.

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