The Queen died at 3:10pm of 'old age'

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news.sky.com/story/queens-cause-of-death-revealed-as-extract-of-certificate-published-12707655

I can't quite remember the timings of news reports on the day. Was the Queen already deceased when the news were saying the doctors are 'concerned for her health'?

I suppose got rid of Boris so my work is done can't be put on a death certificate.
Died of old age is sufficient though, my Grans death was registered the same 5 years ago and she was 98

The only appropriate response is RIP M'am.

Thought it was interesting as it had quite a few differences to the English death certificate I got this year.

There was no time of death and it doesn’t say Anne was present at the death like the English one. Also noticed it didn’t list Philip as deceased.

Still, it was interesting to see all the royal names/places listed. Just a reminder that we all end up the same in the end.

At what age would 'old age' be a thing to put down?

Also noticed it didn’t list Philip as deceased.

It describes the Queen as widowed, so a nice avoidance of tautology I think.

There are unfilled categories listed, so I assume some information has been redacted for public view.
Phillip's also listed 'old age' despite his obvious health problems.

Those sections are always on Scottish death certificates. They are only filled in on some occasions if necessary.

Them being blank is not an indication of redaction.

True, just noticed as the parents both said deceased

There is a time of death under the date.
It doesn’t need to list Philip as deceased as that was covered in the marital status being listed as widowed.

@JustLyra I meant there was no time on the English one

DH and I are now sitting here wondering how old you have to be for your certificate to say old age? 🤔

When my Grandad died a few years back in a hospice, the nurses were amazing and left the family in peace throughout the night once the morphine driver was in place. He died early hours with my Dad and I awake beside him, and after doing couple of checks etc the nurse in charge asked us very casually, “any of you get the time?” I replied that it was just after 5, and death cert says 5am 🤷🏻‍♀️ definitely not exact to the minute. Interestingly my FIL and MIL both have what reads like rounded to the nearest quarter hour deaths (2pm, 9:45am on the dot). I mean it’s possible, but seems like being exact to the minute isn’t a priority.

Scot here, do English death certificates say who was present at the time of death?

What if their are 3 or 4 people round the bed?
That never seems to really happen in my family, everyone seems to keel over and go.

How can it be old age when everyone had prior warning....sorry.... just saying 😌 RIP Ma'am xx

No it just lists if the person acting as the informant was present at the death as well as, in my case, being his wife.

Dying of old age can take a few days.

Officially it is over 80, and when the certifying doctor can attest to the following:

So basically, that doctor signed to say she did not die of any other illness or injury. That’s it… she died because she was old.

Surely she died much earlier that day?

BBC suspended programming at around 12.30. Why would they do that if she was ill - even if she was seriously ill or had a stroke or something? They wouldn't have been able to know how long she had left and potentially it could have all gone on for days. So they must have known she'd passed.

Also Huw Edwards travelled in from home (bringing his black tie with him). Why would he have done this unless London Bridge was in action. Again, if she was still alive but on her deathbed it could have lasted for days.

Why did the MP's leave the commons during the very important session on the energy crisis? Again if she was only ill they could have continued so the way the message was phrased must have triggered that response- therefore she must have died before that time.

I suspect she died early that morning, or even during the night before, but the Palace knew how important Truss's announcement was to people worried about the energy crisis and so they sensitively stalled on any news until the earliest possible opportunity (knowing that Parliament would have to shut down) and that moment was 20 seconds after Liz Truss had sat down after giving her announcement.

My dad died a few weeks ago. He died early morning but on his death certificate time of death is when the GP certified it 4+ hours later.

Not always. As a nurse in a Community Hospital, I was trained to Verify death, while the doctor had to Certify death! As many deaths happened overnight, it was often a good few hours before the deceased was certified dead by a doctor. However, the time on the death certificate, was the time I put down on the relevant form as having completed checks to verify that my patient had died.

There are things omitted from the death certificate being released.
You can see other causes have been removed.

They really aren’t missing. Scottish certificates are a template snd only the relevant clauses are filled, leaving any others blank

Why are people so obsessed with trying to pick holes in the death certificate and get all conspiracy theorist? She was a 96 year old woman. Her body gave up on her - many old people just fade away. My granny died in similar circumstances and the doctor said they weren’t sure if it was her heart, a stroke or some other cause which was the final straw. Her entire body was failing because she was old so the cause was marked as old age.

The number of people who haven’t been able to grasp that people die from being very old, or who felt ‘surprised’ or ‘shocked’ that someone whose body had carried them around for nearly a century should die is really starting to explain to me why so many selfish cruel idiots try to demand that CPR be performed on their frail elderly relatives.

I think It's unlikely that she died early that morning or the night before given that Charles was called at 12:30 pm and then rushed up to Balmoral.