The Queen died at 3:10pm of 'old age'

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news.sky.com/story/queens-cause-of-death-revealed-as-extract-of-certificate-published-12707655

I can't quite remember the timings of news reports on the day. Was the Queen already deceased when the news were saying the doctors are 'concerned for her health'?

I’m not sure what the general rules are on qualification v registration for a medic.

In this case, didn’t he have some arcane title like “Apothecary to the Royal Household”? So maybe retired as a GP, but still practising medicine in one or more capacities?

Yes it must have been some official or unofficial moratorium agreement.

I’d guess that just because a GP has retired it doesn’t men they lose the ability to tell if someone is alive or dead!

Normal people are not allowed old age now on their death certificates. It was said a few years ago that was unacceptable.

It does not mean that is when she died, just when it was verified.

Old age 🙄
I wish they'd be more modern about death.

It wasn’t that sudden. Prince Charles left Ayrshire to fly to Balmoral before 7am that morning, so I assume the Queen became more unwell overnight.

She was fortunate to die peacefully in her own bed, surrounded by her family, with the very best of medical care and after only a short period of illness / disability.

I write old age on death certificates all the time. It's a perfectly acceptable cause of death without other qualification if the person was over age 85.

The b and c and part 2 can be left blank.

The death certificate has to be signed by someone who wasn’t involved in the care of that patient.

Same here, but my grandad. Not even my grandmother, his wife of 51 years was able to visit him in hospital due to Covid. He hadn't seen a soul he knew in weeks.

When my grandmother died at age 99 essentially of old age, on the death certificate, they put "heart failure." This was in the US.

Also, I don't think people in the US had any advance knowledge as a poster suggested. I was following it very closely on news sites and on MN; there was speculation, but no advance knowledge unless I missed something.

My mums death cert says old age. She was 93.

I would also imagine something happened and she wasn't going to wake up/recover.
I also imagine there was a DNAR

This was my thoughts. She was already gone and the announcement was to prepare everyone, and I'm sure Huw Edwards knew it was written all over his face.

I’ve seen hundreds of death certificates and “old age” is a common cause of death for really old people. As are the blank spaces underneath.

Nothing strange about it.

Probably military.

My friends DH was called to go into work around that time because we were leaving work and he simply rang to say he had to go in and neighbour had kids from school.

We guessed then!

I worked in death claims for over a decade and during that time I would have seen literally thousands of death certificates. I used to see "old age" written as the cause of death fairly regularly for the very elderly, it's not suspicious or uncommon.

The fact that nothing else was filled in on the death certificate would seem to put paid to the rumours that she had advanced bone cancer. That would have been listed on the death cert as an underlying cause if that were the case.

When the cause of death is given as old age, it always sounds rather a peaceful end to me.

Old age used to be common in death certificates. The guidance was changed so that a cause needs to be entered now.

A doctor is always a doctor I would have thought even if retired from formal employment?

I think broadcasting top brass would have been informed shortly before the move away from normal programming, and that the anchors who were brought in (and key newsroom staff) for the rolling coverage would have to have been briefed that this was the start of London Bridge, and that there was a very strict embargo until the formal announcement

A retired DR can not be struck off if they lie on a death certificate.

I found it quite fitting & touching that Charles & Anne were there when she died.
Her two children that saw her become Queen - all the more so for Charles as he was at her coronation - watched her cease to be Queen.

I think it's awful that the DC has been published tbh. HMQ was 96 and had the right to privacy around her health status as we all do. What does this add to anything.

Death certificates are public record though - anyone can order a copy of anyone else’s.

Jenna Bush Hager, President Bush's daughter, was preparing to interview Camilla for US television (she is a presenter on the Today Show) at Dumfries House that morning. Here is her version of the timeline. According to her, the call came to Charles a little after noon and he and Camilla left by helicopter almost immediately.
www.today.com/news/news/jenna-bush-hager-dinner-king-charles-queens-death-rcna47266