The Queen died at 3:10pm of 'old age'

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news.sky.com/story/queens-cause-of-death-revealed-as-extract-of-certificate-published-12707655

I can't quite remember the timings of news reports on the day. Was the Queen already deceased when the news were saying the doctors are 'concerned for her health'?

One of my relatives died at about midnight between 5th/6th April many years ago. The doctor asked the spouse which date they wanted on the death certificate and advised them that there was probably a tax benefit to have it a particular date (5th April is end of the tax year) - I can't remember which though.

Apparaently the tax rebate bought a new fridge!

Yes that’s what I thought too, but I didn’t quite trust my memory. They did it to speed things along and hit the “right” news deadline.

I wonder what all those courtiers horrified by the evening papers as a news source would have made if social media?

Watching the BBC on the day it was obvious about 2:30 that she had gone/it was imminent. Suddenly all the news readers wore black suits and ties, and the atmosphere just changed. Only having “old age” does seem weird seeing as she was working only 48 hours before

Lady C put it on her YouTube channel at 4.30 and said the Queen had had bone cancer for a few years. I'm sure she said HM had died at 2.30pm. I think the story was that people in America knew well before it was announced here and that was why she spoke out.

@MrsDanversGlidesAgain she overdosed on Morphine.

"Old age" will do, honestly. No need for a conspiracy theory. I was listening to a crazy woman in the bus telling her young daughter that when she cut her finger last week, she knew that it was a sign from Jesus that some big death was about to happen. It was infuriating.

Ok so maybe she did die at the time Lady C said and then it was only verified at 3.10? Also I wonder did the late Queen have bone cancer?

Did she? got a source for that? she was already in poor health, almost blind and had several strokes. I doubt she needed an overdose of morphine to send her off.

www.historyextra.com/period/victorian/queen-victoria-death-funeral-mask-cause/

She obviously had some serious underlying condition in recent years, but I can see why they’re keen to retain some remnants of privacy for a woman who lived her entire adult life in public. We don’t need to know the granular detail. She kept her faculties until the end so there was no constitutional consequence of her illness.

I'd also heard 2.30pm but I can't remember from where.

Gosh, that's the time I found out there were concerns. I was in a meeting until just after 3pm and someone in the meeting told me.

I would think that quite a few death certificates have 'old age' given as a reason, with other reasons as well. Does anyone see death certificates as part of their work? I used to, and I've definitely seen 'old age' on them.

There was a time when an English birth certificate would not have the time of birth shown, except, I think, in the case of twins, whereas a Scottish one would have the time of birth. I haven't had anything to do with a death certificate lately. Would the mention of the time be a Scottish thing or do English, Irish and Welsh death certs also have the times on them nowadays?

If you go back and read the mumsnet threads for that day, there were multiple people saying they had been told 3.27pm by ‘people who knew’.

No we don’t need to know every single detail surrounding her condition/death but I do think it’s only human nature to wonder / speculate when someone who has been in the public eye for so long has died

I believe that many people who live to an extreme old age actually tend to have less co morbidities, hence why they live so long.

We had residents who would have been fit as a fiddle one day and then deteriorating the day after, while not massively common the lucky ones were most like this, usually the ones who deteriorated fastest were the ones who did just die of old age(like my great grandma. Who was 105 and had been playing the piano with me the day before and then we had a couple of card games.)

It was obvious from the lunchtime announcement she didn't have long. It can be hard for dr to predict whether it's hours or a couple of days, but I'm glad for her family it was fast at the end. The protocols were in place for many years, we got notification at work approximately 40 mins before the public announcement, which tallies with what Liz Truss said. They held the public announcement until all the family could be informed in person or by phone (hence William driving the family in private, even his police protection officer followed in the next car)

I think Philips certificate also said old age. There was clearly something else going on for him too. I think the doctor has been told what to write myself.

That’s not accurate. That is standard on Scottish death certificates and is filled in if needed or left blank if not.

There’s nothing on the original entry if it’s not on the extract.

Both my grandmother and my MIL had old age on their death certificates. Both had been seen by their GP in the days preceding their deaths, both had several health conditions. Both died in their sleep. The only way to put an actual medical condition as the primary cause of death would have been for them to have post mortem. We didn’t want that for either of them.

Not at 96

I very much doubt it. As A, it's illegal. And B, would be against her beliefs.

The informant doesn’t need to physically attend the Registry Office - we did our DMs via zoom in February!

It’s just been on the Scottish news that the death certificate was signed by a retired GP. Can retired GP’s verify a death? I just find that part confusing.

Yes I thought most people had figured out she'd died well before the official announcement. I'd heard they were waiting until all close family were there. I think the media must have known a bit early as well. There was a lot of public speculation after news presenters started wearing black suits which gave it away.