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The royal family

The Queen died at 3:10pm of 'old age'

296 replies

LadybirdsLadybirds · 29/09/2022 15:34

news.sky.com/story/queens-cause-of-death-revealed-as-extract-of-certificate-published-12707655

I can't quite remember the timings of news reports on the day. Was the Queen already deceased when the news were saying the doctors are 'concerned for her health'?

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JustLyra · 29/09/2022 19:52

Ghislainedefeligonde · 29/09/2022 19:49

antelope that GP would have known the Queen for years if not decades!!

He’d been their official Balmoral doctor for over 30 years

Tuilpmouse · 29/09/2022 19:56

EdithWeston · 29/09/2022 16:52

Sorry - maths wrong!

Death was recorded at 3:10, so that was 80minutes. Still not very long, to sit, absorb, be peaceful, and then have it all break

The news didn't "break" until 6:35. A few key people were told in advance... but it would have been only a trusted few as they wouldn't want something like that leaked.

DontSuitAJumpsuit · 29/09/2022 19:58

Dad died at 91 last year and we werent allowed to see him in hospital during the six weeks leading up to him passing

That's absolutely barbaric. I'm so sorry to hear that.

Juancornetto · 29/09/2022 20:06

Dinoteeth · 29/09/2022 19:18

Do they not need two Docs to confirm the death?
Could the time be when the second Doc got there. And once your dead your not the top of the Docs priority list. In a rural area there might not be that many Docs available.

I'd have thought that confirming the death of the Queen would be quite high up any doctors priority list

Florenz · 29/09/2022 20:06

Having rewatched some clips of newscasters talking about the Queen being in ill health that afternoon, it's clear they knew she was dead well before the official announcement at 6.30pm. Certainly after the TV schedules were suspended, it was clear to everyone what had happened.

LovinglifeAF · 29/09/2022 20:12

Cookerhood · 29/09/2022 15:56

Old age & no other contributing factors? Unusual I would have thought.
My mum had
Kidney failure, frailty, COPD on hers. The kidney failure was what made the end inevitable. You'd think something must have happened on the morning of the day she died.

Look at what has been said

that her DC has been “partially” released.

even though what we have seen seems to be a photo of the entire extract

I thought that there were probably other reasons below old age but that those have not been made public

sunglassesonthetable · 29/09/2022 20:21

Could the time be when the second Doc got there. And once your dead your not the top of the Docs priority list. In a rural area there might not be that many Docs available.

Are you joking? This wasn't a day in the life of ordinary country folk????

" Balmoral Castle. Soz, You're just going to have the wait....."

sunglassesonthetable · 29/09/2022 20:22

The news didn't "break" until 6:35. A few key people were told in advance... but it would have been only a trusted few as they wouldn't want something like that leaked.

You're wrong.

SenecaFallsRedux · 29/09/2022 20:22

It does seem likely that the turn for the worse happened that morning because the night before Charles was in Ayrshire having dinner with Jenna Bush Hager; that morning they continued setting up for the interview at Dumfires House, and at 12:30 Charles got a call and he and Camilla left by helicopter immediately.

That's not all that usual though when people are very old.

WinnieTheW0rm · 29/09/2022 20:22

I thought two doctors signatures were needed only for cremation

sunglassesonthetable · 29/09/2022 20:26

I thought two doctors signatures were needed only for cremation

No Not needed.

SenecaFallsRedux · 29/09/2022 20:28

Not unusual in my earlier post, I meant.

Suzi888 · 29/09/2022 20:33

They aren’t going to tell us peasants the truth are they. I doubt it was just old age, she must have had other ailments at her age.

Viviennemary · 29/09/2022 20:34

I suppose it was better to announce there was serious concern for HM's health tather than have speculation and reports of royals heading to Balmoral. I didnt think old age was a usual reason on a death certificate. I thought heart failure

sunglassesonthetable · 29/09/2022 20:35

I doubt it was just old age, she must have had other ailments at her age.

Other ailments yes. Died from them, not necessarily.

HansZimmerframe · 29/09/2022 20:38

Florenz · 29/09/2022 20:06

Having rewatched some clips of newscasters talking about the Queen being in ill health that afternoon, it's clear they knew she was dead well before the official announcement at 6.30pm. Certainly after the TV schedules were suspended, it was clear to everyone what had happened.

I have a friend who works in PR and marketing for a large finance company. I saw her the evening the Queen's death was announced and she said they'd all been speculating at work because they were told to halt all PR and Marketing comms, so "they knew it was coming". We got side tracked in discussion about the Queen and other events of the day after that, so I don't know the ins and outs of who passed this request / information onto them. I did ask her if they knew the queen had died earlier and she said not exactly, but they were told about 4:30 that something very serious had happened and they needed to be mindful of what messaging they put out. So they all just
kind of assumed that's what happened.

x2boys · 29/09/2022 20:39

At the agevof 96 she probably did have lots of other age related ailments that could have killed her but it was her great age that was the main factor m

JustLyra · 29/09/2022 20:39

Viviennemary · 29/09/2022 20:34

I suppose it was better to announce there was serious concern for HM's health tather than have speculation and reports of royals heading to Balmoral. I didnt think old age was a usual reason on a death certificate. I thought heart failure

In doing family tree research I’ve seen loads of certs that say old age.

Some have things in the other sections if needed, but not always.

Antarcticant · 29/09/2022 20:40

Viviennemary · 29/09/2022 20:34

I suppose it was better to announce there was serious concern for HM's health tather than have speculation and reports of royals heading to Balmoral. I didnt think old age was a usual reason on a death certificate. I thought heart failure

Possibly even a deliberate element of preparing people mentally for the shock. We had a good few hours to get used to the idea of the Queen dying, rather than an announcement out of the blue; TV and radio stations had a chance to dig out their mourning schedules and remove any unsuitable items from the evening's schedules. Companies could get their black web banners ready to launch and so on.

x2boys · 29/09/2022 20:42

SurpriseSurprise · 29/09/2022 17:42

Watching the BBC on the day it was obvious about 2:30 that she had gone/it was imminent. Suddenly all the news readers wore black suits and ties, and the atmosphere just changed. Only having “old age” does seem weird seeing as she was working only 48 hours before

Not really she was 96 she could have slipped away at any point ,my dh step dad died in August he was 81 had ,had a hip operation and was discharged from hospital " medically fit" sat on the settee and passed away

EmmaH2022 · 29/09/2022 20:43

JenniferBarkley · 29/09/2022 15:51

Oh I know, but we wouldn't have had the rolling news coverage etc without the announcement.

I'm probably being ridiculous and it was all meticulously planned. Just seems a bit off that so many people me were hitting refresh on our news feeds while she was slipping away.

But it's not fair for an announcement to be made before the family had a chance to get their heads round it. We were told appx 3 hours later. That's fine with me.

Dumbledormer · 29/09/2022 20:44

I’m sure I’ve read somewhere that putting “old age” as the cause of death on a death certificate was because there were multiple illnesses and/or health conditions that contributed to the eventual outcome.

HansZimmerframe · 29/09/2022 20:44

x2boys · 29/09/2022 20:39

At the agevof 96 she probably did have lots of other age related ailments that could have killed her but it was her great age that was the main factor m

I believe this as well. I think she earned the right to claim "died of old age". By that age there could have been a multitude of contributing factors. But she was alert and with it and mobile enough to see out our old PM and welcome in the new one and smile for one final picture. Then passed away 2 days later. That's old age enough for me.

Although I do wonder if the palace would have really released the actual cause of death if it was something a bit more graphic sounding like stroke, brain haemorrhage, heart failure, etc?

Veeragall · 29/09/2022 20:45

I find it sad that even though her death certificate has been published, with the cause and time of death, that there are still people who think it's some sort of conspiracy and that she died at a different time.

x2boys · 29/09/2022 20:49

Dumbledormer · 29/09/2022 20:44

I’m sure I’ve read somewhere that putting “old age” as the cause of death on a death certificate was because there were multiple illnesses and/or health conditions that contributed to the eventual outcome.

Probably but as people age manyi have quite a few conditions my mum is 80 and quite physically frail she ,s on all sorts of medications ,any one of those conditions could be potentially fatal but they arecall age related .