Feel sorry for Harry walking behind the Queens coffin

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It must be very triggering for him, i feel for him.

Hehehehe. I could not agree with you more. It is pitiful but sad all the same. I would have gone to war on the claim that we British are not racist. Now given the xenophobia against Eastern Europeans and racism against black and brown people, including the hatred of Meghan Markle, I see my country in a different light.

I feel a deep sense that we are losing our high place in this world. The racism towards Meghan has turned swathes across the world against Britain. We are now seen by many as stupid, ignorant racists. A lot of that is attached to middle aged and older white men and women. I’m just so embarrassed.

Agree @Sheenqueen. Add to that the behaviour of Andrew and continued stonewalling of American courts and the big picture isn't pretty. There have been a few articles lately in the Washington Post and the New Yorker on the colonial legacy which were extremely scathing about the end of the Empire. I don't think such articles are a coincidence.

I do believe however that William has stated that walking behind the Queen's coffin reminded him of his mother's funeral.

It is the price members of the RF pay for their enormous privilege, swathes of land, numerous properties and vast wealth.

I mean, at least we manage to hand over power between our heads of government without our people storming our government buildings and being confusedly either shot by guards or welcomed in by them, not to mention the multiple suicides of said guards in the subsequent months. Also seem to remember Virginia Guiffre accusing multiple other powerful men - mainly Americans - of abusing her also but that went no where. All easily searchable if you've a mind to.

I'm so tired of Americans moaning about the UK from the absolute shit show that us currently the US. People in glass houses and all that...

William was very much a child then too. The thing imo that makes people always say they feel for Harry is that he looks much younger than his 12 years, while William looks much older than 15. 15 is a terribly difficult age when you are mixed up and trying to find your feet anyway, let alone having the body of an adult man when your brain is still that of a boy.

Everyone loved Meghan when they married. Even now, people in the crowds are shaking her hand and wishing her well, despite her Oprah program.

Hehehehe. I could not agree with you more. It is pitiful but sad all the same. I would have gone to war on the claim that we British are not racist. Now given the xenophobia against Eastern Europeans and racism against black and brown people, including the hatred of Meghan Markle, I see my country in a different light.

You'd be very naive to think Britain didn't have racism or xenophobia, it is in every single country in greater or lesser numbers in one form or another.

I read comments made by people from the outside of the U.K. (predominantly US) and their inaccuracies of how the RF work and it's no wonder it didn't work with MM (or would work for anyone else coming into it from outside the U.K.). I don't think it's driven by her race as much as some believe but a complete lack of understanding of what the RF are as a family and as a business (although granted racism will be the case for a small minority of ignorants). No one was going to be able to join the RF and change it in such a way. People in the U.K. are well aware of this and why most of us wouldn't want it for ourselves so there was a lot of sympathy for the couple leaving, the mistake was burning every possible bridge on their way out.

Can't see how you can say that about Harry. All the stories in the media haven't been written by him or Meghan they are constantly harassed by the media If you don't want attention from the media, probably a better idea not to go on Oprah, do various podcasts, have 'friends' leak things to the press and write a book. They could have gone to the Stares and lived quietly, but they chose not to 🤷🏻‍♀️

Why are you copying me into that comment ??

They want privacy, not to disappear off the face of the earth. They want to be able to speak freely and get their message out to the public of what really happened, hence going on Oprah.

I do sort of feel bad for other RF members who probably look at them and wish they could live a private life. It probably doesn't seem fair. But it's not exactly Harry and Meg's fault, it their mental health was suffering and no by stepped in to publicly defend.

Don't blame them for shunning the UK and having it their way, good for them.

That's not representative of the whole country. All 70 million people didn't go out that day. Not everyone who went to London did so because they like them.

One or two people shook her hand so I suppose everyone liked her initially

So how come you’re not reading a book but instead reading this thread and posting on it? Does your “I don’t know why I read this crap” somehow make your involvement in this thread more credible and superior? 🤔

They want privacy, not to disappear off the face of the earth. They want to be able to speak freely and get their message out to the public of what really happened, hence going on Oprah
That's fine and that's their choice. They also have to accept the media attention that goes with that. The problem is that as with everything there is the truth and peoples individual perceptions of the truth. Some of the stuff said on Oprah has been shown to not be exactly factual. This is the problem with going on a show like that. Going on Opera and privacy don't exactly go hand in hand.

That isn't true. It helps people who want to attack her now because it gives them the opportunity to justify their frankly hideous behaviour towards her to make themselves feel better. But the papers were bringing up her 'exotic DNA' at the outset.

They want privacy, not to disappear off the face of the earth. They want to be able to speak freely and get their message out to the public of what really happened, hence going on Oprah.
I do sort of feel bad for other RF members who probably look at them and wish they could live a private life. It probably doesn't seem fair. But it's not exactly Harry and Meg's fault, it their mental health was suffering and no by stepped in to publicly defend.
Don't blame them for shunning the UK and having it their way, good for them.

And it seems to have made them so happy, doesn't it? Except, of course, that Charles has refused HRH for their children. That will have sent their metal health into further decline..... Oprah! Where are you!?

There were some prejudiced people who were against Meghan from the get go, many for racist reasons.

But there are also lots of people who thought she was great but have changed their minds over the years because they don't like how she has behaved. Calling them all racists is just lazy and blinkered.

Yes. It is entirely possible to have been very happy originally but to have changed your mind because both she (and Harry) repeatedly show us who they are.

There's changing your mind and then there is this level of hysteria and vitriol that we see now fuelled by the media and scum like Piers Morgan.

'They want to be able to speak freely and get their message out to the public of what really happened, hence going on Oprah'

Swap 'They' for Thomas Markle and can you not see Harry's hypocrisy? He wanted Markle Senior to be silent about his tales of woe and perceived slights, yet feels he can share wtf he likes about the royal family.

I'm not sure how you can tell they're unhappy, maybe I'm missing something.

I think people who actively dislike them are what they want to. First it was they'll get divorced. It didn't happen. Then rumours about the pregnancy, now that they're unhappy. They can seemingly never do anything right.

You do realise that the majority of people can quietly have their thoughts about it all and not pay any attention to the likes of Piers Morgan.

That sentence made no sense. I meant people who actively dislike them see what they want to see.

You do realise that the majority of people can quietly have their thoughts about it all and not pay any attention to the likes of Piers Morgan

A very sensible and accurate statement.

Except, of course, that Charles has refused HRH for their children

Do you have a link to the statement or new LP’s for that?

@NanaNelly judging by the posts on MN, I'd say no.