Feel sorry for Harry walking behind the Queens coffin

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It must be very triggering for him, i feel for him.

A family funeral when it comes to Andrew, but a state funeral when it comes to H&M.............

Perhaps apply that same critical thinking to Harry name calling in the army, just like everyone else. The guy said he did not mind. He knew everyone was called derogatory name and it was 'banter' that was not supposed to make it out of the inner circle. Harry most likely would have also been called a name.

I don't need to thanks. Being ex forces myself I have said similar on previous older threads and been thoroughly roasted for it.

Furthermore I have only ever brought up Harry's racism in defence of those who label us all racist because we criticise Meghan. I very well know what passes for banter in the army, "isms" of all kinds, ghoulish and extremely shocking humour and banter which would absolutely horrify the average MNetter and have them calling for legal intervention.

Not all hand holding is about being lovey dovey and sexual. It's also about support. Perhaps the Queen would be please her HC don't have to be as repressed as she did.

Gosh, isn't it completely expected that people can somehow make Mike Tindall and Zara Philips holding hands acceptable but Meghan and Harry doing it a BAD thing.

Losing a mother when you're a child causes trauma. Losing a mother when you're a child and a member of the royal family and made to parade in front of people because the baying mob that is the public demand it, is a whole different type of trauma.

I honestly find some people on here disgusting. I hope if your kids are ever put through anything like this - which they won't be - you'll have more sympathy.

They weren't forced to do it, Harry in an interview in 2017 said himself he was glad he did it although it was incredibly hard. He also states separately that they had the choice but prince Philip advised they might want to or they might regret not and he would be by their side if they did. If Harry is pleased he did it on reflection then surely that's the important thing.

William was still a child when Diana died yet he managed to walk in and out without holding his wife’s hand .
It was a solemn State occasion not a stroll in the park .

Agree . Charles Spencer said much the same ; no one forced the boys to walk .

Not all hand holding is about being lovey dovey and sexual. It's also about support

Yes I realise that. I’d never though of hand holding as sexual. But some people never seem to let go of each other’s hands. And if Harry could have managed not to do the hand holding whilst wearing a uniform, why did he need to do it at all? Not sure what the Tindall’s excuse is unless as I have already mentioned, Zara is unused to heels. I don’t think it means you are “repressed” because you don’t hold hands or “not repressed” because you do. I think it just means you know there is a time and a place. This was essentially work for the Royals, as well as an occasion of mourning. So they are expected behave like they are at work. Most know how to do that.

No idea what you mean by that .
Neither Andrew not Harry will be wearing military infirm for the funeral if that’s what you are meaning ?

William was still a child when Diana died yet he managed to walk in and out without holding his wife’s hand .
It was a solemn State occasion not a stroll in the park .

There's really no harm. They weren't canoodling just holding hands. Only royal telltales (' Harry's not allowed to do that for some reason') would even notice because normal people hold hands and it's no big deal.

Nothing to do with a stroll in the park. You've somehow extrapolated that H and M don't care about the queen and are disrespecting the occasion because they >check notes once again< held hands.

It's probably overwhelming being back here, with all cameras on them, to attend such a huge occasion. Of course they wanted to hold hands.

But this is what happens when you look for problems. They weren't the only ones doing this very normal, non-offensive gesture.

@Readinginthesun are you struggling with the concept that some people deal with trauma in different ways? Does that even compute for you? Because William hasn't spoken about his trauma, Harry is not allowed to? It has evidently shaped his entire life.

There is a shitload of mental gymnastics going on here to justify the racism of every other royal except Harry, that some of the things PP said were only offensive because of how "uptight" our political correctness is.

Harry is right, some of you and every single member of the media, won't be happy until she's dead or they're divorced. And even then that won't be enough.

This thread is disgusting.

The whole point of monarchy is hierarchy, elitism and bloodlines, not equality.
You either agree with the system or you don’t.

As you think the thread is disgusting I will assume you have left however on the off chance you are still reading, of course I know that people deal with trauma differently ! The reason I wrote is because so many people are fixated on Harry’s loss rather both William and Harry . William was only 15 remember.
I do know about dealing with trauma. I wrote on another thread about a family tragedy that meant police and newspapers were involved . I dealt with it very differently from my DB .

Furthermore I have only ever brought up Harry's racism in defence of those who label us all racist because we criticise Meghan

Oh just realised this doesn't make sense. What I mean is I have only every brought up Harry's racism as defence against those who label us racist.

The whole point of monarchy is hierarchy, elitism and bloodlines, not equality

Can you point to a country where hierarchy, elitism and bloodlines do not exist?

Diana's brother publicly spoke out at the time and said it was wrong. Philip apparently was keen on it

I read that Philip was NOT keen on it atall but when the boys were persuaded by others he said told them that if they did it he would join them to support them!! .

It’s fine

They are both the King's children. Peter Phillips, the Princess Royal's son also walked with them. The only male grandchild who didn't, was James Wessex, son of Duke and Duchess of Wessex, Edward and Sophie.
Anne, Andrew and Edward also walked behind the gun carriage with the King.

You’re only being unreasonable if you don’t also feel sorry for William!

They both lost a mother, both walked behind her coffin, both miss her. Just because one is more vocal, doesn’t mean it affects the other any less.

Also after Harry has caused so much upset to the Queen these past few years, I don’t feel sorry for him much at all.

I always think that if William and Harry hadn't walked behind their mother's coffin, they would have regretted it later in life. So even though it must have been brutal at the time, in the long run it was for the best for them.

Harry's really done a great job in the last few years of making peope believe he was the only one devastated by his mother's death. I personally feel just as sorry for William. Harry made his bed, and if he is now feeling lonely in the UK it is his own fault.

Diana had two sons, one is just more respectable and less self pitying than the other!

Belated response to this but no, it wasn’t just that one question from you. It was several comments in quite short succession including this one that you wrote:

”Imagine the pressure of talking to either of them! Rumours that Megan is miked up for Netflix....”

Seemed to me you were being deliberately divisive.

And your jewellery question was answered several times on here, including you being told that some of Diana’s diamonds were in Meghan’s engagement ring. Yet all you seem concerned with is someone specifically saying whether Meghan got “an equal shot” at the jewels to Kate.

HTH.

Don’t be ridiculous. The media played that card like they play many many others. People lack critical thinking around the RF and then blame others for ‘making them feel’ a certain way.

William has apparently mentioned today, on the Wales’ Sandringham walkabout, that walking behind his grandmother’s coffin reminded him of his mother’s funeral. Which suggests he is still affected by it.