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Feel sorry for Harry walking behind the Queens coffin

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FayeGovan · 14/09/2022 11:29

It must be very triggering for him, i feel for him.

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lizziesiddal79 · 14/09/2022 12:41

stuntbubbles · 14/09/2022 12:22

You don’t think walking behind a coffin in front of enormous crowds with the world’s media trained on you, at a formative age, might embed in your memory in such a way that walking behind a coffin in front of enormous crowds with the world’s media trained on you, and now with the added baggage of the past few years, would be triggering?

Absolutely. Diana's brother said he still has nightmares about the sound of the gun carriage wheels on the gravel. And he was middle-aged. Can imagine what the boys went through.

FayeGovan · 14/09/2022 12:52

I guess i feel more sorry for Harry as he was youngest and has spoken about his mental health issues because of having to do it. Im sure it will be difficult for William too but he seems a different character to Harry, who seems more sensitive to me.

Interestingly i read something on the mail online saying how martin lewis was triggered by watching them as he lost his mum in a traffic accident at the same age as Harry and hes never got over it and cant watch them doing that.

Its just such a deep wound to have, losing your mum.

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Farmerazza · 14/09/2022 12:52

I also wonder why only Charles and his children rather than his siblings and surely the other grandchildren too?

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 14/09/2022 12:53

Ringmaster27 · 14/09/2022 11:35

I’m by no means a royalist - but the footage of William and Harry as kids walking behind their mother’s coffin makes me sob each time I see it.
No child should ever be subjected to that kind of media circus during the most vulnerable time in their life. And I can imagine doing it again at their grandmother’s funeral will just take them right back to that time. Doesn’t sit right with me at all.

From what I read they wanted to. When my FIL died my ds who was 15 was adamant he wanted to help carry the coffin.

antelopevalley · 14/09/2022 12:54

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 14/09/2022 12:53

From what I read they wanted to. When my FIL died my ds who was 15 was adamant he wanted to help carry the coffin.

It was reported that it had been suggested to them but they were told they did not have to. But if they did Charles would walk with them.
Diana's brother at the time was outspoken in the press that it was wrong and much of the public agreed with him.
I do not think children can understand what the reality of this would have been before doing it. Harry was only 12 years old at the time and William was 15.

Dragonskin · 14/09/2022 13:01

Why just Harry?

PipinwasAuntieMabelsdog · 14/09/2022 13:03

YABVVVVVVVVU OP. He is a grown, married man with his own children now. All this 'Diana's boys' business has led to him becoming the petulant manchild he is today. William had the same experience but for some reason is not given anything like the 'free pass' Harry seems to get. He made choices that made the end of his grandparents' lives much more difficult, as far as I am concerned he deserves no special regard above any other family member right now.

smilesy · 14/09/2022 13:04

@Farmerazza His siblings are walking too. See up thread

Georgeskitchen · 14/09/2022 13:05

Prince Phillip told William and Harry that if they wished to walk behind their mother's coffin, that he would accompany them and he stood by his pledge

stemthetide · 14/09/2022 13:06

The Queen's children and grandsons are walking behind the coffin, according to what I read, with the exception maybe of Edward's son.

The women apart from Princess Anne are travelling by car. I'm sure if they wanted to walk they would.

Lunde · 14/09/2022 13:15

FayeGovan · 14/09/2022 11:29

It must be very triggering for him, i feel for him.

His brother is only around 27 months older nut nobody thinks of him.

antelopevalley · 14/09/2022 13:16

Lunde · 14/09/2022 13:15

His brother is only around 27 months older nut nobody thinks of him.

Why use months as if they were toddlers?
It was wrong for William as well.
But people talk about Harry because he was only 12 years old. We look at our own children and when they were 12 and know how much of a child they still were.

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 14/09/2022 13:20

antelopevalley · 14/09/2022 12:54

It was reported that it had been suggested to them but they were told they did not have to. But if they did Charles would walk with them.
Diana's brother at the time was outspoken in the press that it was wrong and much of the public agreed with him.
I do not think children can understand what the reality of this would have been before doing it. Harry was only 12 years old at the time and William was 15.

They were given a choice,they chose to do it. They were old enough to make that decision.

antelopevalley · 14/09/2022 13:23

Totally disagree. Twelve is not old enough to decide that. Especially if your brother and dad are also doing it. It was a terrible thing and Diana would never have allowed it.

diddl · 14/09/2022 13:26

Charles, William and Harry – along with the Queen’s other children, Duke of York, the Princess Royal and the Earl of Wessex – will follow the coffin on foot as it makes its journey to Westminster Hall on Wednesday afternoon.

Anne’s son, Peter Phillips, and her husband, Vice Admiral Sir Tim Laurence, will also walk in the procession, as well as the Duke of Gloucester and the Earl of Snowdon. The Queen Consort, the Princess of Wales, the Countess of Wessex and the Duchess of Sussex will travel by car.

That's according to the Guardian

SpinCityBlues · 14/09/2022 13:26

antelopevalley · 14/09/2022 12:38

And that controversial video of Andrew and Eugenie.

Is that actually real, @antelopevalley? I saw it on Twitter and assumed (because it's so gross) that it was fake, possibly one of those clever 'deep fake' things.

antelopevalley · 14/09/2022 13:28

@SpinCityBlues I saw the original footage before I saw the film on twitter. It is sadly real.

whynotwhatknot · 14/09/2022 13:28

i always thought it horrible to make them walk behind their mothers coffin she was killed tragically young and they shouldnt have had to do that at their age

i feel they wo9uld want to walk behind the queen now

JustLyra · 14/09/2022 13:28

AnyFucker · 14/09/2022 12:13

Do we know the reason why it is just Charles and her two grandsons ?

Why not her other children ?

It’s not. So far confirmed is all four of her children, William, Harry and the duke of Gloucester.

I expect there will also be Tim Laurence, Peter Philips, Earl Snowdon, Prince Michael of Kent and spending on how he’s feeling the duke of Kent as a minimum as well.

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 14/09/2022 13:29

antelopevalley · 14/09/2022 13:23

Totally disagree. Twelve is not old enough to decide that. Especially if your brother and dad are also doing it. It was a terrible thing and Diana would never have allowed it.

You can't say that for sure at all.

Anyway, Harry seems to be doing his own thing at the moment so if he doesn't want to walk on Monday then I'm pretty sure he won't.

CPL593H · 14/09/2022 13:31

RoutineLow · 14/09/2022 12:24

Yes but the point is that the particular adult men (middle aged? 😂) in question are the very same people who walked behind their mother's body as children. And the discussion on this thread is around whether that will throw up memories for them.

It would be a "huge difference" if we were talking about adults paying their respect to their grandmother who hadn't gone through the ordeal of doing the same for their mother as children.

I'm quite sure it will bring up memories of the past, that happens around all deaths. Some words of Prince Charles in his address bought back a very significant memory of my husbands death. They also walked in the QM and Prince Philip's processions which but I don't remember such hand wringing then.

As I said, I felt what they went through far too young was dreadful but they are now adults and this is a very different situation. And yes, William is 40, that is (young) middle aged or as close as damn it. They don't need infantilising.

antelopevalley · 14/09/2022 13:33

MrsPelligrinoPetrichor · 14/09/2022 13:29

You can't say that for sure at all.

Anyway, Harry seems to be doing his own thing at the moment so if he doesn't want to walk on Monday then I'm pretty sure he won't.

I agree as a grown man Harry will choose what he wants to do.
Diana was very protective of her children over Royal protocol.

StClare101 · 14/09/2022 13:36

At the time the RF had been pilloried for hiking up in Balmoral. They were then under pressure to publicly grieve, by the public. The same public that are now demonising them for said public grieving. They should have ignored everyone and kept the Princes out of sight except for sneaking them into the service. Diana’s brother’s speech didn’t make it any easier for William and Harry. He just enjoyed being on his soapbox. He would have been better off speaking out publicly to agree with the princes being kept away.

MrPlobby · 14/09/2022 13:36

I think they are incredibly brave. Walking up the Royal Mile in Edinburgh - that’s a narrow street full of residential flats. I stood for a while just beyond St Giles and there were so many people hanging out of windows taking photos. Lots of figures in black on rooftops and I have no doubt there were guns trained on many people but I haven’t heard anything about anyone who lives around there being given any rules and restrictions.

been and done it. · 14/09/2022 13:38

I think the reality is none of us will ever know the truth of what happened back then nor everything that's happened since..it's all crappy media speculation with royal 'experts' pontificating about this that and the other. I read that TB was responsible for the boys walking behind the coffin of Diana..the British public 'demanded' the Queen come down from Balmoral with the boys yada yada...maybe the boys wanted to be close to their mother albeit she was dead, it's all speculation then and now..the press should give it a rest leave them all to do what they do..they're adults now anyway.