What now for M&H

[OliviaBean]

I find the whole family and royal family (The Firm) aspect of Megxit very interesting.

Just wondering what now for M&H? Will they continue on with the strategy of talking and writing about the royal family or will things now change? I think the half in half out strategy on their terms would have worked for M&H but I think the RF were right to knock it on the head, it would never have worked for the RF, Harry was ready to go and Meghan was never going to just slot in with the system.

Just looking at Harry, I think the guy really needs the whole circus of fighting with the RF in public to stop, for his own mental health. He obviously has issues that he needs to come to terms with, he really needs to do this in private but this is at odds with how they need to make money now. I really fear for him the person.

If they keep going with the fighting then I think that's it for them and the RF. If they are to reconcile with the RF, how then do they make a living? I would imagine QE has left quite a provision for Harry in her will so perhaps the money making aspect will be less of a priority. I could see Charles being more open to a reconciliation but not sure about William.

Not trying to start a thread to bash anyone, just interested in other opinions.

Bizarre indeed. lol.

I also always found it funny when people go on about 'narcissist '. Like, seriously, everyone in the limelight is a narcissist. Wanting to be seen or see yourself on national TV or read about in the press is narcissist . From actors, singers, royals, presenters etc. even reporters are panelists and opinion champs of some kind nowadays. It's not just about talent is it. Go sell your art anonymous.

Nothing says 'narcissist' like having people bow to you, waving from an open top car to masses of adoring plebs. I'm going to 'honour you', like who are you, a deity of some sorts 🙄

Don't know why people think MM is deserves to be more besmirched than others on this.

Well worth watching - I found the suggestion that PH likely already had a v difficult relationship with PC/KC before he met MM interesting. Also that emotionally he is often that of a young teenager - which would fit with getting stuck unresolved trauma at the age his mother died.

@DFOD i posted many times when all this Meghan drama first started to become public knowledge ( under a previous username). I live in Windsor and have two relatives who have quite prominent positions at the castle. It is well known that Harry is an extremely damaged individual and also a spoilt brat, it has just been effectively covered up by the palace pr machine for years. The Royals saw through Meghan straight away but tried to be supportive of the marriage to keep him happy. H&M both encourage the " victim" in each other. Now that they don't have the palace pr cleaning up behind them we are seeing them for what they really are. I was shouted down by all the H&M fans and called a liar which is a standard response from their defenders when they can't come up with a factual response.

@bloodyplanes
I'm curious, what did your relatives say about the notorious tempers and bullying attitude of Anne, Andrew and William to staff?

Andrew is widely disliked, he's arrogant, rude and borish! Ive never heard anything but respect and praise for William and Anne 🤷‍♀️

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The Royals saw through Meghan straight away but tried to be supportive of the marriage to keep him happy. H&M both encourage the " victim" in each other

Both H and M seem equally damaged, actually. This is amply illustrated by their atypical responses to situations that others would simply take in their stride. I suspect that this saga is going to run and run, with unscrupulous individuals taking advantage of two damaged and childlike people (Oprah is getting it in the neck, though, I see). Supporting M because of her race or H because someone wants to stick it to the monarchy are poor reasons for letting two people continue on their self-destructive path when what they really need is some heavy-duty support.

Could you explain the bullying allegations against Anne and William as these are news to me ?

I'm watching the news from Ukraine. People are being tortured and murdered. Children can't go to school. We're supposed to feel sorry for Meghan and Harry FFS

It's all nonsense

@derxa I just find the never say die attitude of the Ukranians inspiring. To take on a superpower the way they are and push them back. Their strategies are amazing

Meghan and Harry’s lives are so different, it’s not fair to compare. All our lives are easy compared to theirs

As my DF always said 'Count your blessings' H&M never do

That was my initial response but I would be interested to hear what @notanotheroneagain has to say .

@Readinginthesun ive never heard of any allegations of bullying by Anne or William?

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So you throw stuff in like she is 'consuming from the system and taking millions' and you expect me to answer what I like about her?
Nah. Not doing it. You justify what you said first. I haven't seen you on these threads before, why do I have to justify my position first?

I've said what I think about H&M in previous threads.

It's a fair question of the Meghan fangirls to ask what they like about Meghan

You call people who dont hate Meghan 'fangirls'... what shall I call you?

Read this. If you missed it the first time.

Another thing that bothers me is that Meghan bashing for the sake of it seems to be a sport. Her dress sense is ugly, her figure is bad, she smiles too much, her voice is too sing song, she ran a lifestyle blog (which makes her unserious), she’s interested in charity (but she’s faking), she cares about issues (but she’s a hypocrite for caring and she’s fake anyway), she was an actress (but second rate and anyone can act anyway), she’s earnest (no one likes a try hard), she’s self assured (must be a narcissist), she once held a party to celebrate her first pay check (how dare she give away her old clothes), she was an ugly duckling because she had frizzy hair and a gap tooth (why is she insulting black people), she was a loner and so became an overachiever (liar), ad infinitum and ad nauseum

And this is why I stand up for her... they are irritating at times but this...
Yes. All of this. I’m definitely not a ‘fan girl’! In fact I find both of them a bit annoying!! And certainly think they’ve made mistakes.It’s the relentless criticism and bitchiness that I find bewildering and makes me want to stand up for her

Said so much better than me.

As my DF always said 'Count your blessings' H&M never do

FFS Please do not compare H&M to Ukraine. What an insult. Go on Ukraine threads and shout/count your blessings. Give money, support Ukraine, watch the news, support them in every way possible, but stop making out this conversation is anything to do with Ukraine.

I'm wondering what they have to complain about.

Don't know but I'm scared of Kate. I don't get good vibes from her.

Sorry but you are 100% wrong.

These are four highly acclaimed and qualified experts with long career histories in the US Military using analysis of body language for interrogation who now work separately in the corporate sector.

They have no agenda to declare someone guilty or innocent. They look at culture and patterns of behaviour to see what deviates from the individuals “baseline”. Their YouTube channel looks at specific high profile public interest cases and applies their extensive experience and theory. They are not sensationalist.

Maybe have a listen - it’s fascinating - before rubbishing something your are assuming doesn’t fit your narrative.

And yes you will get more clarity from these impartial experts applying a professional review of body language than you will on this thread or any other source which is just spurious conjecture.

Honestly have a listen you will enjoy it.

There is also another one on the PH / OW mental health interview.

@heartbroken22

please elaborate on how scared you are and why?

A pathetic attitude. The suffering for many around the world including Ukraine is heartbreaking. However it’s possible to feel sorry for different people for a variety of reasons.

I hope you haven’t complained or felt sorry for yourself ever....because there’s people starving or suffering due to a natural disaster or war or something else.

Also they do TWO on Prince Andrew -

m.youtube.com/c/TheBehaviorPanel/playlists

I know who they are. I’m not wrong. You are deluded.

What do any of us have to complain about when there is a war in Ukraine?

i didn’t mention Ukraine, to compare anyone or make anyone look or feel bad, I simply expressed pride in their amazing grit in the face of Russia.

Who are they … list out their qualifications and experience….