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What now for M&H

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OliviaBean · 11/09/2022 15:45

I find the whole family and royal family (The Firm) aspect of Megxit very interesting.

Just wondering what now for M&H? Will they continue on with the strategy of talking and writing about the royal family or will things now change? I think the half in half out strategy on their terms would have worked for M&H but I think the RF were right to knock it on the head, it would never have worked for the RF, Harry was ready to go and Meghan was never going to just slot in with the system.

Just looking at Harry, I think the guy really needs the whole circus of fighting with the RF in public to stop, for his own mental health. He obviously has issues that he needs to come to terms with, he really needs to do this in private but this is at odds with how they need to make money now. I really fear for him the person.

If they keep going with the fighting then I think that's it for them and the RF. If they are to reconcile with the RF, how then do they make a living? I would imagine QE has left quite a provision for Harry in her will so perhaps the money making aspect will be less of a priority. I could see Charles being more open to a reconciliation but not sure about William.

Not trying to start a thread to bash anyone, just interested in other opinions.

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Peaceandcalm · 13/09/2022 19:22

Wow! Some posters on this thread really do validate the old adage: ‘Idle hands are the devil’s workshop’.

Snog · 13/09/2022 19:23

It's a fair question of the Meghan fangirls to ask what they like about Meghan.

MissMarpleRocks · 13/09/2022 19:23

Well Camilla allegedly had bread rolls thrown at her & she’s now Queen Consort. Once one of the most reviled women in the U.K. & her image has been rehabilitated.

Some people’s views are so entrenched (I include both camps) that it will be interesting to see what their views will be if there is a reconciliation between the family.

There are generally three sides to a story. The view from each side & then the truth somewhere in the middle. No one is perfect. No one.

AlThough from some peoples views on here Meghan & Kate could both be saints depending on which camp you are in.

Ohnonevermind · 13/09/2022 19:27

Hopefully Harry, Meghan, Charles, Camilla, William and Kate get together after the funeral for a secret burning of Price Andrew’s military uniforms

feellikeanalien · 13/09/2022 19:29

skullbabe · 13/09/2022 18:13

The issue is not with whether she could take the trips private or not (of course she could) - the issue is one again of autonomy - she could not on a whim decide to take a flight to New York for example on her own. It’s a security issue - she would always need it to be cleared hence would not be allowed to hold her own passport. And for someone who had a level of independence for most of their adult life it would be difficult to accept. The people born into it wouldn’t have issue with it because they wouldn’t know any different.

I think this is the root of all the problems. No ordinary British person could have any idea what day to day life in the RF would be like. Throw in the fact that Meghan is also American so would have even less idea (not being rude to Americans, I mean that there would be no reason for her to know).

My ex-h was from what you would call quite a "posh" family. I had a fairly ordinary middle class upbringing and I found some of the attitudes and behaviour from him and his friends quite strange. That must have been 1000 times worse for Meghan.

I think the sniping is getting out of hand and I think the press are really stirring the pot. I also don't think that Meghan helps herself sometimes though.

OhMerde · 13/09/2022 19:31

It's certainly going to be interesting to see how in plays out with Andrew over the next few days. Particularly after the heckler in Edinburgh. I wonder if he'll play a more discreet role. If not, there will definitely be more heckling.

Ohnonevermind · 13/09/2022 19:34

meghan’s friends include serena Williams and a son of a former Canadian prime minister. both of which have people who would have organised travel.

She travelled in private jets before her marriage, so would have been aware how it worked. She had plenty of glimpses of lives of the.wealthy and connected.

Ohnonevermind · 13/09/2022 19:36

I looked at the pictures of Anne, she’s so stoic, she must be shattered.

Novella4 · 13/09/2022 19:46

Ohnonevermind · 13/09/2022 19:27

Hopefully Harry, Meghan, Charles, Camilla, William and Kate get together after the funeral for a secret burning of Price Andrew’s military uniforms

I know you are joking but to me it didn't look like any of them would be 'getting together' ever again

The PR people must have had their reasons for setting it up but that walkabout emphasised the problem rather than covering it up
I thought Kate was cold to M H and W !
They couldnt get back in their cars quick enough, not that blame them

skullbabe · 13/09/2022 19:51

MissingNashville · 13/09/2022 18:24

But things like the wedding, it’s not unreasonable that she classes where they exchanged vows privately a few days before, as the day she got married. I believe others could say that and it wouldn’t be picked up on. But with Meghan it’s taken literally and she’s branded a liar.

We know a gay couple, who before gay marriage was legal, went to a solicitor and legally tied all their finances/assets together and then had a vow exchange. When gay marriage became legal, they got married. But if you ask them their wedding date, they’ll tell you the first one, as that’s when they feel they got married. I can imagine some homophobic idiot being pedantic about it because they’re filled with so much hate.

No matter how you explain this they will always take the most misanthropic view - this will be turned around and presented as her general contempt of the British public (as opposed to wanting something just for the two of them)

MissingNashville · 13/09/2022 19:53

DFOD · 13/09/2022 18:53

Have a watch of The Behaviour Panel analysis that I posted above. That will bring you some clarity.

I doubt the views of 4 male fame hungry opportunists who are desperate for views will give anyone any ‘clarity‘. Regardless of any expertise they may have, they’ve sold out with a YouTube channel where they seek views through the latest topical witch hunt. Eg, the McCanns, Amber Heard

I wouldn’t be giving any credit or value to what they say, they’re just sensationalists with click bait videos.

Meanderings · 13/09/2022 19:59

Not the Queen + Harry and Meghan the only people to make it into the headline. Whew, William and Kate, who? 😒

What now for M&H
derxa · 13/09/2022 20:00

as opposed to wanting something just for the two of them The Archbishop of Canterbury was completely unaware of this momentous event going on. He had to publish a clarification which was very embarrassing for him.

Meanderings · 13/09/2022 20:02

MissingNashville · 13/09/2022 19:53

I doubt the views of 4 male fame hungry opportunists who are desperate for views will give anyone any ‘clarity‘. Regardless of any expertise they may have, they’ve sold out with a YouTube channel where they seek views through the latest topical witch hunt. Eg, the McCanns, Amber Heard

I wouldn’t be giving any credit or value to what they say, they’re just sensationalists with click bait videos.

Now you know these people eat up anything that comes from fake arm chair experts like this. I need to get on this Meghan hate hustle because it's a money maker. Click bait video with the title sIgNs mEgHaN is a nArCiSsiSt LiAr and get a million views.

I swear to God, people are stupid.

skullbabe · 13/09/2022 20:07

Ohnonevermind · 13/09/2022 19:34

meghan’s friends include serena Williams and a son of a former Canadian prime minister. both of which have people who would have organised travel.

She travelled in private jets before her marriage, so would have been aware how it worked. She had plenty of glimpses of lives of the.wealthy and connected.

Those people have more autonomy than the RF - it’s not about the private jets it’s about not being able to just do it. Serena can fly to the UK right now if she wants to - a member of the RF would need permission first. That’s the difference.

skullbabe · 13/09/2022 20:08

derxa · 13/09/2022 20:00

as opposed to wanting something just for the two of them The Archbishop of Canterbury was completely unaware of this momentous event going on. He had to publish a clarification which was very embarrassing for him.

See

wellhelloitsme · 13/09/2022 20:31

@WaveyHair

So I think we agree that Rachel Meghan Markle has a few narcissistic tendencies & a mediocre actress (try getting through 30 mins of the daters handbook without help of alcohol).

Why are you using her full name like a parent bollocking a child? Absolutely bizarre.

skullbabe · 13/09/2022 20:48

Snog · 13/09/2022 19:23

It's a fair question of the Meghan fangirls to ask what they like about Meghan.

Its really difficult to explain - I’m really keen on fairness and I feel that regardless of what this person does some people will build it up into the worst.thing.ever!

Another thing that bothers me is that Meghan bashing for the sake of it seems to be a sport. Her dress sense is ugly, her figure is bad, she smiles too much, her voice is too sing song, she ran a lifestyle blog (which makes her unserious), she’s interested in charity (but she’s faking), she cares about issues (but she’s a hypocrite for caring and she’s fake anyway), she was an actress (but second rate and anyone can act anyway), she’s earnest (no one likes a try hard), she’s self assured (must be a narcissist), she once held a party to celebrate her first pay check (how dare she give away her old clothes), she was an ugly duckling because she had frizzy hair and a gap tooth (why is she insulting black people), she was a loner and so became an overachiever (liar), ad infinitum and ad nauseum.

Meghan is not perfect and she has made mistakes - I’m just not sure this justifies the sheer level of negativity sent in her direction. People compare the other royals who of course have had to deal with similar however Meghan attracts headlines by the 100 fold daily.

Many Meghan “fans” have and do criticise Meghan - I have done so many times in these threads but because I do not call her names or attribute the worst of motives to her actions people who hate her cannot conceive of anyone being able to hold two thoughts about someone at once.

Coronateachingagain · 13/09/2022 20:48

Ohnonevermind · 13/09/2022 18:33

@MissingNashville

i’ve not used that example at all, if you look at my posts

I’ve used the fact that the court report had to be amended as Meghan originally presented ‘alternative facts’ in her court documents, her grandiose anecdote about the SA people dancing in the street at her wedding like they did when Mandela was released’ and her assertion that she was a trapped victim without a passport despite making 13 trips abroad.

I would love for someone to take my passport away and deal with travel arrangements visas passport queues etc. that is why her passport was taken away, just a practical matter. Now she just pointed out at it for the drama but either she doesn't understand or doesn't want to that it is a practical point. Same thing with the flowers, she just wants to reinvent the wheel every time - and be the hero for it

SilverLiningPlaybook · 13/09/2022 20:53

Novella4 · 13/09/2022 19:46

I know you are joking but to me it didn't look like any of them would be 'getting together' ever again

The PR people must have had their reasons for setting it up but that walkabout emphasised the problem rather than covering it up
I thought Kate was cold to M H and W !
They couldnt get back in their cars quick enough, not that blame them

Apparently M and H are amongst the family members at BP tonight. Oh to be a fly on the wall!

skullbabe · 13/09/2022 20:54

Coronateachingagain · 13/09/2022 20:48

I would love for someone to take my passport away and deal with travel arrangements visas passport queues etc. that is why her passport was taken away, just a practical matter. Now she just pointed out at it for the drama but either she doesn't understand or doesn't want to that it is a practical point. Same thing with the flowers, she just wants to reinvent the wheel every time - and be the hero for it

Everyone would love for people to take over life admin - most people struggle with loss of autonomy that is the very real difference. Once in the RF you lose that - absolutely for security reasons but you cannot state that it wouldn’t bother you or at least understand why it would bother someone to always have to ask for permission to do something that they could do without a thought before.

skullbabe · 13/09/2022 20:57

MissingNashville · 13/09/2022 19:53

I doubt the views of 4 male fame hungry opportunists who are desperate for views will give anyone any ‘clarity‘. Regardless of any expertise they may have, they’ve sold out with a YouTube channel where they seek views through the latest topical witch hunt. Eg, the McCanns, Amber Heard

I wouldn’t be giving any credit or value to what they say, they’re just sensationalists with click bait videos.

YouTube is very lucrative for hate channels - it’s really sad and difficult for them to manage.

garlicandsapphires · 13/09/2022 20:58

skullbabe · 13/09/2022 20:48

Its really difficult to explain - I’m really keen on fairness and I feel that regardless of what this person does some people will build it up into the worst.thing.ever!

Another thing that bothers me is that Meghan bashing for the sake of it seems to be a sport. Her dress sense is ugly, her figure is bad, she smiles too much, her voice is too sing song, she ran a lifestyle blog (which makes her unserious), she’s interested in charity (but she’s faking), she cares about issues (but she’s a hypocrite for caring and she’s fake anyway), she was an actress (but second rate and anyone can act anyway), she’s earnest (no one likes a try hard), she’s self assured (must be a narcissist), she once held a party to celebrate her first pay check (how dare she give away her old clothes), she was an ugly duckling because she had frizzy hair and a gap tooth (why is she insulting black people), she was a loner and so became an overachiever (liar), ad infinitum and ad nauseum.

Meghan is not perfect and she has made mistakes - I’m just not sure this justifies the sheer level of negativity sent in her direction. People compare the other royals who of course have had to deal with similar however Meghan attracts headlines by the 100 fold daily.

Many Meghan “fans” have and do criticise Meghan - I have done so many times in these threads but because I do not call her names or attribute the worst of motives to her actions people who hate her cannot conceive of anyone being able to hold two thoughts about someone at once.

Yes. All of this. I’m definitely not a ‘fan girl’! In fact I find both of them a bit annoying!! And certainly think they’ve made mistakes.
It’s the relentless criticism and bitchiness that I find bewildering and makes me want to stand up for her.

garlicandsapphires · 13/09/2022 21:02

SilverLiningPlaybook · 13/09/2022 20:53

Apparently M and H are amongst the family members at BP tonight. Oh to be a fly on the wall!

Maybe it’ll all be okay eh? They’ll see past their differences and forgive each other.
Honestly you’d think people WANT them to be miserable Hmm

SilverLiningPlaybook · 13/09/2022 21:04

Let’s hope so.

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