What now for M&H

[OliviaBean]

I find the whole family and royal family (The Firm) aspect of Megxit very interesting.

Just wondering what now for M&H? Will they continue on with the strategy of talking and writing about the royal family or will things now change? I think the half in half out strategy on their terms would have worked for M&H but I think the RF were right to knock it on the head, it would never have worked for the RF, Harry was ready to go and Meghan was never going to just slot in with the system.

Just looking at Harry, I think the guy really needs the whole circus of fighting with the RF in public to stop, for his own mental health. He obviously has issues that he needs to come to terms with, he really needs to do this in private but this is at odds with how they need to make money now. I really fear for him the person.

If they keep going with the fighting then I think that's it for them and the RF. If they are to reconcile with the RF, how then do they make a living? I would imagine QE has left quite a provision for Harry in her will so perhaps the money making aspect will be less of a priority. I could see Charles being more open to a reconciliation but not sure about William.

Not trying to start a thread to bash anyone, just interested in other opinions.

Have you not got google? 😉

bodylanguagematters.com/the-behavior-panel/

this is their bio, so saying FBI, army, corporate experience and written some books - I’ll review the reviews next.

they’ve done Prince Andrew, trump, Biden and Carole baskin too 🤣

i must have a look

Understanding Body Language: How to Decode Nonverbal Communication in Life, Love, and Work amzn.eu/d/a9EIgTA

nearly 900 reviews for Scott’s book - the reviewers don’t seem to be whack jobs

See I’ve done my due diligence.

You need to do yours.

You are 100% wrong.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=sOipDGz3bHg

Here you go @bloodyplanes - this is The Behaviour Panels take on the PH / OW - The Me you can’t see.

another of the behaviour panel’s books for anyone who is interested

Winning Body Language: Control The Conversation, Command Attention, And Convey The Right Message Without Saying A Word (BUSINESS SKILLS AND DEVELOPMENT) amzn.eu/d/9CoNjl9

Due diligence. 😂

@MissingNashville

clearly you don’t agree with @DFOD
can I ask why ? I’ve linked to reviews etc which seem legitimate but happy to be corrected

I’ve only seen one, which was the one they did on Putin - found that very interesting.

You didn’t bring up Ukraine in the first place - another poster felt that Ukraine was relevant to bring up as a means to criticise H&M. Which is in poor taste.

@skullbabe

i was the poster who first mentioned Ukraine,
but didn’t mention or allude to H&M in the post

These are four highly acclaimed and qualified experts with long career histories in the US Military using analysis of body language for interrogation who now work separately in the corporate sector.

Body language interpretation especially when it comes to lie detection is pseudoscience. Although widely used by law enforcement there is no evidence in its wide spread application. So certainly these gentleman are interesting and have very good careers, their work is not infallible nor can it stand up to scientific rigour. I’m also interested in their lack of bias - I have skim watched a few of their videos(Royal highlights (a compendium of Andrew, H&M and Harry), Carol Baskin, Trump v Biden debate, Amber Heard) and although they do try to be objective but they are not completely unbiased.

If it’s true that Harry is a very damaged person and had a PR machine cleaning up after him, why on earth was he allowed to join the military? The last thing someone like him should be doing. Risking PTSD and everything g else on top of his traumatic experiences as a child. As usual, it doesn’t sound like the Palace knew what to do with someone with ‘issues’.

What a very strange comment.

Never heard that Anne or William bully staff. No one has a good word to say about Andrew.

There’s a difference between people seeking out public attention because they have a need to be validated , adored and applauded, and those who are born into a role they did not personally choose. Surely you can see the difference? I’m sure many in the RF would not for one moment choose the life they have. I would absolutely hate it.

This is in reply to the poster who is implying all the RF are narcissistic. I appear to have chosen the wrong quote but can’t be bothered starting all over again…

So says some random anonymous fangirl on MN vs the experience of the US Military,
FBI, intelligence agencies and Corporates globally who pay for or run these services!

You would have more integrity and credibility if you just said yes these experts add to the debate rather than double down and attempt to smear and silence what you don’t want to hear. Not a good look.

They have some really interesting insights that shift the debate away from the polarities and if you took the time you would even find plenty of info in support your narrative but maybe black and white suits you and shades of grey, complexity and nuance are a challenge.

There are plenty of reports to suggest that he didn't join the military in the normal sense and that his experience was outside the norm. We will never know the truth, of course, but we can probably make an educated guess as to their veracity. When it became obvious that H couldn't access aspects of life according to all the usual parameters, the Palace should have stepped in at that point instead of looking away and indulging him further and Andrew (for the 'What about Andrew-ers' - inspired, @LondonWolf)

There are plenty of reports to suggest that he didn't join the military in the normal sense and that his experience was outside the norm. We will never know the truth, of course, but we can probably make an educated guess as to their veracity

Those reports would be wrong, apart from him always being able to get the leave dates he wanted (and need for close protection) in many circumstances.

There are many people who knew him in the military - it's probably the part of his life that is best and most widely known.

I know less about Andrew, but have heard less good things about him. But he really did fly the helicopter, and they don't let you do that unless you are of the proper standard, in his era as well as the for the Wales princes. Indulgence does not stretch to inability to meet standards for something that include lives of the others on board

Describing something as pseudoscience is not a smear. I said

• used by law enforcement
• not validated by science

As I said - I skim watched several videos and I am well aware there was some positive commentary on H&M and Harry on his own. That you see me as a “fan girl” who does not see complexity or nuance when my comments are very much about the fact that these issues (and H&M) are never completely black and white (he he) is interesting. I have had my understanding of some things challenged on these threads and I have gasp changed my mind about what I thought was true and admitted it.

The person who wedded to a narrative is not me nor many of other people who defend the couple. Many people on this thread have explained why they defend them - they acknowledge that these people are not perfect but what they are challenging is the idea that they are pantomime villains.

Claims to personal knowledge of a scenario in order to bolster its veracity do not make it any more accurate or truthful. As I said, we will never fully know about H in the military. All we have to go on are our own sense-making capabilities about the world and how it functions.

The person who wedded to a narrative is not me nor many of other people who defend the couple. Many people on this thread have explained why they defend them - they acknowledge that these people are not perfect but what they are challenging is the idea that they are pantomime villains.

This true in reverse also. There only a very few posters who absolutely will not be swerved no matter what evidence is presented to them. They make themselves apparent, we don't need to name though. Mostly though posters on these threads are open to alternative viewpoints

Btw , just to let posters know that the vile , bigoted, Angela Levin is cleaning up her Twitter account and has gone on a untweeting and unliking spree.
Hopefully , all the nasty racist tweets that she has liked or retweeted are no more. Her retweeting the tweet calling Lillibet ‘ Georgina Floyd’ was the one that shocked me the most tbh . Dreadful woman
King Charles and his Queen consort need to be more discerning about the people they associate with in the future. Particularly, when the associate retweets from racist troll accounts then uses ‘evidence’ from these accounts and then reports them as fact,

I fully agree. Plus people all over the world and here are suffering in unimaginable ways. What I'm wondering is what do Harry and Meghan have to complain about really? They are blessed in life. Financially secure, lovely children, their obvious love for each other and now living free from the constraints of royalty and the rotten UK. I would be over the moon if I were them.

Btw , just to let posters know that the vile , bigoted, Angela Levin is cleaning up her Twitter account and has gone on a untweeting and unliking spree.
Hopefully , all the nasty racist tweets that she has liked or retweeted are no more. Her retweeting the tweet calling Lillibet ‘ Georgina Floyd’ was the one that shocked me the most tbh . Dreadful woman

That is good to hear, but cleaning up her Twitter account does not mean we forget what a bigoted hateful person she is. Well done Vanessa Feltz for calling her out.
Now we need to work on Morgan, Wootton and others..