What now for M&H

[OliviaBean]

I find the whole family and royal family (The Firm) aspect of Megxit very interesting.

Just wondering what now for M&H? Will they continue on with the strategy of talking and writing about the royal family or will things now change? I think the half in half out strategy on their terms would have worked for M&H but I think the RF were right to knock it on the head, it would never have worked for the RF, Harry was ready to go and Meghan was never going to just slot in with the system.

Just looking at Harry, I think the guy really needs the whole circus of fighting with the RF in public to stop, for his own mental health. He obviously has issues that he needs to come to terms with, he really needs to do this in private but this is at odds with how they need to make money now. I really fear for him the person.

If they keep going with the fighting then I think that's it for them and the RF. If they are to reconcile with the RF, how then do they make a living? I would imagine QE has left quite a provision for Harry in her will so perhaps the money making aspect will be less of a priority. I could see Charles being more open to a reconciliation but not sure about William.

Not trying to start a thread to bash anyone, just interested in other opinions.

DOES she lie, though? are you referring to the 'we got married three days before the wedding' thing? what exactly has she lied about?

@garlicandsapphires

do you really think ‘a South African cast member of the Lion King told her that they danced on the streets when she got married like they did when Mandela was released’ - paraphrasing from her podcast with Serena Williams

she had to correct the court record as she gave a statement saying she didn’t provide information to the Omid scobie book, when she did

that She was trapped without her passport (despite her 13 private trips)

this has all been discussed in lots of detail earlier in the thread if you want it read it

Oh god. Not the married three days before AGAIN. I can't cope.

To my mind, if the same old guff comes up time and the again, which centres around about three things from years ago, she ain't doin' bad and is getting it all right now as none of the detractors have anything else to say

If it's just three things, can Lion King take the place of the three days married thing before I lose the will to live. Pleease

The most recent one is two or three weeks ago, so still lying

Rou....note to self..
Do. Not. Ask

Not mine and my family.

@Roussette

ive given three examples and you start minimising ‘it’s a gaffe’ or deflecting (I never mentioned the 3 days thing in any of my comments)

it’s just not a persuasive winning argument.

Not convinced that these 'lies' are as heinous as you'd have me believe.
I CAN believe that the Palace took her passport but that she had it back for various trips. It must've been very difficult to adjust to that way of life, and I can well imagine her feeling trapped, if not literally being trapped.

If this is the sum total of her 'lies'...big deal.

I was trying to be a little light on this thread for a change. Allowed?

When it mattered the most NOBODY from the RF put out a statement to condemn the racist trolls and the tabloids. Absolutely nobody - it was just silent. People can shower you will all the money in the world but moral and emotional support matters the most. The Queen obviously had the power to say something, she chose not to. Charles and Camilla and Obviously William. I want to think that Kate is not that person but it feels as though this worked to her advantage because finally she was liked by the public so saying nothing perhaps worked for her.

I can't even think why they support a mental health charity but fail to support their own son/ brother / brother in law and his wife. It was all jealousy.
There's nothing Meghan did to warrant all that hatred and lack of support. Nobody from the RF fought their corner against the racist attacks.

On the other hand the stories about Williams affairs are deleted quickly!

I think people twist things to fit the narrative - she had to be a bad person therefore nothing positive can ever be said about her. We all watched the same interview but people here will say Meghan said Archie is not being given a title because he is of mixed heritage. At no point did she say that.

it didn’t come across as trying to be funny

Not the same Gaffe's Harry's Grandfather used to come up, 95% of which were questionable / racist. Nobody here is crucifying him for it. I bet it's the same people who would say awe he's sweet!

Si, Oui and yes
Totally agree

There’s a huge difference between a gaffe ( PP) and a lie ( MM.

@Lampzade
You have a very different idea of trapped to me

‘i want to go to nice next weekend to visit Elton john’
’ Okay let me sort that and get back to you’

i wouldn’t mind being trapped like that

It's this sort of rubbish - the RF remains quiet about these attacks a lot of it is far worse. I think Prince Charles will do more to protect his son and Wife. He seems fond of Meghan and she seems to be well liked by the close family members including the cousins who are very close to H and W.

You mean racism swept under the carpet?

Abso bloody lutely.
This is what happens when you sign a Faustian Pact with the right wing media.
Throw others under the bus in order to cover your own arse

Ha ha

< sigh> don’t be ridiculous.

I dunno.
As a grown adult I wouldn't want to ask for my passport back so I could go away, even if they did organise the whole thing for me.

Not the same Gaffe's Harry's Grandfather used to come up, 95% of which were questionable / racist. Nobody here is crucifying him for it. I bet it's the same people who would say awe he's sweet!

There is only one member of the RF that used blatant racially offensive language leading to the Prime Minister having to make a statement in the House of Commons and MM married him. I don’t see anyone crucifying him. Or is that different?

That’s fine, but successful people have people to handle these things.

do you think Jill Biden is booking flights, or Elon musk or Oprah Winfrey or are they filling out visa waivers, or covid status certs before they get on the plane

do you think they sulk about not having their passports in their hand or are grateful that someone does all the grunt work for them.