A positive and non-bashing thread about Meghan and Harry

[MrsMaxDeWinter]

I have rejoined Mumsnet after leaving a few times. The first time I left was because I was concerned about the coverage and uncomfortable undertone of the commentary on Meghan Markle after the engagement was announced, before she had said a word, and before she had married into the Royal Family.

I came back around the time she and Harry left the UK, to be stunned by the pages and pages upon pages of virulent threads. At that time Mumsnet actually banned all threads about Meghan, it had become so toxic.

They have now made their lives in Montecito, but still the virulence continues. Yes, she speaks in a mix of therapy plus corporate gobbledegook, yes, she is occasionally vapid and irritating.

But who is she actually harming that she deserves all this virulence?

Yesterday, when the new UK Prime Minister was elected, the coverage in the Super Tory Daily Mail was all about a seven minute speech to a bunch of young people. Article after article after article. Body language experts. Counting the number of times she said "I" in a speech in which she sought to inspire young people by attempting to relate to them. Before that, 18 articles were devoted to the first podcast by the Daily Mail alone. 18!

Same with her podcasts. The series is about HER and HER take on labels, and she discusses HER take with HER guests.

It's all very anodyne, even vanilla. It does not deserve any of the vitriol sent her way.

SO:

As the next twelve weeks are going to be wall to wall Meghan, and the Meghan haters and detractors have several threads here that fill up rapidly with bile, scorn and mockery, I have started this thread, reminiscent of previous " positive" threads, to talk about what some of us like, enjoy, find amusing and even (gasp) admire, in the next few Meghan rich weeks.

If you don't have anything positive to say, that's okay, you can keep to the existing threads.

Looking forward to a bile-free discussion of everything Meghan!

Why not wait and see what happens?
Maybe this could bring them all together, give it a chance?
Or is that so alien

It does feel alien quite frankly, given the events of the last few years! I hope for the brothers’ sake they manage to patch things up - although that would surely require the Sussexes to stop lobbing any more “truth bombs” at the media and presumably the cancellation of Harry’s upcoming memoir too - and is that even possible? Time will tell…

Give up the daily mail and let it flow

I wonder if the outbreak of 'love and peace' that seems to be happening even across the sides of the Commons (but not on MN) willstill be in place on 20th September?

I don’t read the Daily Mail, so not sure what you’re on about? The Times is my newspaper of choice.

Truth bombs?

Do you know anything??

How lovely to see them all together, The DM is actually embarrassing in how they keep on trying to imply Meghan did this or that. Who cares, it doesn't matter at this moment.

Exactly

Absolutely.

Eh?

I'm asking about truth bombs which you seem to know about

That's all

Oh, really? I’ve seen them discussed ad infinitum on this board so not going to rehash all that yet again. But I’m sure anyone who has followed the discussion on the board knows exactly what I’m referring to.

I like the pair of them.

I have no idea. I've been here a long time. You seem to have knowledge of something in the future, no one knows

Come back and rant when, or if, your so called "truth bombs" come out but for now just give it a rest

They walked together in a common cause paying respects to their grandmother, can't you just let a day go by without this vitriol?

Really don't think they were playing. All four were united in grief for the Queen and support of the King.

Feminism and women's rights (her podcast), author (children's books), a production company.

So yea, she really does have interesting things about her that has nothing to donwith the royal family.

It's called 'taking the high [road]'

Except that she did an Oprah interview and Harry's book is in the works and she did make crass comments in her podcast about having not signed an NDA and having a diary. These are all facts. Horrible behaviour towards the family.

Will played an absolute blinder. How can they go back to the US and carry on talking badly after this? Will is the good guy who extended the olive branch so they were not being excluded. Whatever happens now he comes out smelling of roses. If they hadn't come they'd have looked petty and mean but having come, if they go back and moan they again look petty and mean and no one will take them seriously.

Maybe this will take the heat out of the whole thing and there can be some way forward, even if it's just them all quietly tolerating each other.

Just look at the criticism Meghan received by saying that they had a small wedding in the garden

that’s because they didn’t.

apart from anything else your wedding license states where the wedding is to be held. And then there is the small matter that in England you can only marry in the home of one of the partners if the partner is housebound or detained, for example, in prison

she was this ordinary girl who was not meant to be Queen

she was not ordinary.

she was a Princess, and third in line to the throne from birth.

her grandfather, King George V famously said “I hope that when I die, nothing will come between Bertie and Lilibet and the throne”

I really hope that there can be small shifts towards a united front, as was seen today. It’s a family after all grieving.

There are always two sides to a story. The royal family as an institution and what Harry and Meghan wanted were never really compatible with the circumstances of his heritage and family. Then throw in the cultural differences of Meghan not understanding how the RF works. And many Americans wouldn’t.

But wherever one is placed within this dynamic, Scobie their spokesperson really hasn’t helped these past few days. The Twitter announcements need to stop. Nothing can heal whilst these are still coming. It was wholly unnecessary for him to tweet they were both travelling to Balmoral and then to backtrack. It was wholly unnecessary today to tweet H&M were invited on the Windsor flower walk about at the 11th hour. The whole spectacle is unedifying and surely completely against everything that Queen Elizabeth II stood for.

Olive branches have been put out. These need to be matched, as they were today, and steps slowly need to be taken. But the leaks and recriminations from H&M also need to stop.

You only have to see how much The Queen was revered around the World to see that it’s time to stop with the recriminations and move forward.

Yawn. My posts have hardly been vitriolic. And yours don’t even make sense (knowledge of something in the future - what?)

I can’t even be bothered to keep arguing with you anyway - life is far too short.

Indeed. I’m interested to see where the Sussexes will go next. I really think they have exhausted speaking about their time in the RF and then some.