A positive and non-bashing thread about Meghan and Harry

[MrsMaxDeWinter]

I have rejoined Mumsnet after leaving a few times. The first time I left was because I was concerned about the coverage and uncomfortable undertone of the commentary on Meghan Markle after the engagement was announced, before she had said a word, and before she had married into the Royal Family.

I came back around the time she and Harry left the UK, to be stunned by the pages and pages upon pages of virulent threads. At that time Mumsnet actually banned all threads about Meghan, it had become so toxic.

They have now made their lives in Montecito, but still the virulence continues. Yes, she speaks in a mix of therapy plus corporate gobbledegook, yes, she is occasionally vapid and irritating.

But who is she actually harming that she deserves all this virulence?

Yesterday, when the new UK Prime Minister was elected, the coverage in the Super Tory Daily Mail was all about a seven minute speech to a bunch of young people. Article after article after article. Body language experts. Counting the number of times she said "I" in a speech in which she sought to inspire young people by attempting to relate to them. Before that, 18 articles were devoted to the first podcast by the Daily Mail alone. 18!

Same with her podcasts. The series is about HER and HER take on labels, and she discusses HER take with HER guests.

It's all very anodyne, even vanilla. It does not deserve any of the vitriol sent her way.

SO:

As the next twelve weeks are going to be wall to wall Meghan, and the Meghan haters and detractors have several threads here that fill up rapidly with bile, scorn and mockery, I have started this thread, reminiscent of previous " positive" threads, to talk about what some of us like, enjoy, find amusing and even (gasp) admire, in the next few Meghan rich weeks.

If you don't have anything positive to say, that's okay, you can keep to the existing threads.

Looking forward to a bile-free discussion of everything Meghan!

I am in NE Scotland which is currently overcast although forecast is for it to brighten which is good as I am planning to watch the cortège which will pass through this area.
The story I quoted may of may not be true . I know MN hate when people claim contacts however I do have a relative who works in the media ; Local rather than National but he does have a lot of contacts .
I rather hope it’s not true. Time will tell .

• that was in reply to @Roussette

This sounds unlikely given their concerns for lack of security.

That would be a reckless and risky move.

Don’t believe it.

Especially as on Monday a “ring of steel” security was implemented ahead of their arrival at the One Young World speech

To be fair to Camilla, her own husband (Andrew Parker Bowles) had behaved reprehensibly towards her since the very start of her marriage. If you feel sorry for Diana and excuse all her subsequent affairs you should also likewise extend sympathy to Camilla.

I had forgot about Andrew PB’s behaviour. I am more sympathetic to Diana who went into this all all wide eyed however some of her behaviour (including the affairs) in her more savvy years was ill judged.

As I said I don’t know , I am only stating what I was told ! Like everyone else on these threads I am not in the Royal inner circle !
Not sure about the security aspect as they are staying on the Windsor Estate therefore automatically come under Royal Protection .

There is a story circulating in some media circles that H and M were planning their own walkabout and had alerted favoured media
HM got wind and asked ( ordered) W to invite H and M to accompany him and C
It would help to explain why M was perfectly dressed , coiffed and made up if the invitation was so last minute .

I don't understand why there always has to be an angle? It's just constant negativity & actually distracting from the main issue. So what if Harry did want to do a walk, should he not be allowed? Perhaps she was dressed for a planned walk or perhaps she was in black & groomed because Queens death/shit loads of press.

People say the royals are dysfunctional I just see a family the same as mine albeit wity disagreements or squabbling blown up by the worlds media.

Agree & I don't buy into these are villains & these are good guys. I don't really understand why so many seem desperate for the Royals to be a soap opera.

Everyone saying that the Sussexes couldn’t possibly trash the RF after this is very optimistic. And hopefully they won’t, as it would be churlish but they could definitely go back to the US and say anything they like - that Harry was delayed in seeing the Queen because he was supporting Meghan’s right to come and support him in Balmoral, that the told M&H to get out on a walk about knowing there would be a frosty reception and M&H gave in out of kindness but never wanted to anyway but needed to support the King so out of a sense of duty they bit the bullet. Etc etc. Anything can be said.

it may well not be, but they obviously have their own truth.

”British Royal Family begs Sussexes for support in royal duties in their hour of need. King implores Sussexes to spread a little of their star power in Windsor”

but @Floralei why does speaking one's truth equal trashing someone else?

when Charles criticised his parents in his autobiography was he trashing them or talking about he felt?

British Royal Family begs Sussexes for support in royal duties in their hour of need. King implores Sussexes to spread a little of their star power in Windsor”

😆 Tbf watching the news last night & watching Harry he definitely has charisma, he really does have that Diana thing.

I think it's funny with Harry, when they were younger he was clearly the more charismatic of the two.
But with age I'm finding him less magnetic. Watching them yesterday and especially William's face and expressions as he interacted with the public, I'm finding myself drawn much more to him than Harry whose charisma seems to have dulled a little.
It's probably because Will has had so much more practice.

It could be that the news I watched seemed to be more focused on Harry.

I agree that William seems more human, in one way I guess all this infighting/drama does make them more real & relatable.

There’s certainly plenty of tweets saying exactly that, Floralei - that Charles is super lucky to have his younger son and daughter-in-law in the UK and even more fortunate that they have deigned to appear supportive, because without their star power he’d not be a popular figure.

Utterly ridiculous, but that’s Twitter for you b

What is a plain bi racial African American?

Your not making sense. It's not about what you "Would".

The facts are Meg is half white and no amount of pushing this American culture is going to change that.... she clearly likes a white man... hence Harry......

Harry needs to realise that he has to support his father now and stop whining about perceived sleights. I thought William was very gracious and dignified in his statement yesterday. They all need to put aside their differences and see the bigger picture. Hopefully yesterday was a start.
Meghan is never going to be popular in the family now but at least they can put on a united front and try not to pull each other down in public in future.

when Charles criticised his parents in his autobiography was he trashing them or talking about he felt? there is a Bit of difference here, C was not thousands of miles away and not on no speaking terms with his Parents while threatening to reveal family secrets in a tell-all book 🫣

perhaps what C said in his book was discussed with his mother many times, they do seem to have a very close bond.

It’s interesting that a poster above said that ‘Meghan was new to this and not used to her words being under scrutiny’

if she had simply told the truth, that would have eliminated a lot of problems. Her lies weren’t ‘noble’ lies to protect someone else. Her lies were to make herself look better sometimes at the expense of others.

While posters throw colour and culture to try to deflect from this fact, the simple fact is she has lied.

Didn't you also post a tweet from Twitter which - you suggested - showed Meghan being aggressive to staff? I feel like you've got an agenda.

I didn't see the walkabout yesterday so I commented on here hopefully about a rapprochement between them.
But I've been watching a video of them this morning and there was no rapprochement there. They barely spoke or looked at each other. William tried perfunctorily and Harry attempted to respond but looked like he didn't want to be there. Meghan fiddled with her hair a large portion of the time and Catherine just looked like she was done with the whole situation. She couldn't have made her distaste more obvious really.
When you think of how close the brothers used to be, it's sad. I know I'd hate to be like that with my sister. But I don't blame Meghanfir any of this. It's all on Harry. And with the Netflix documentary and the book coming out, how can the family be at ease with him.
I think it'll be a minimum of a good few years before they get back on brotherly terms or maybe never.

@queenofarles I'm not trying to make a comparison & I'm actually not a fan of washing dirty laundry in public although the Royals seem to be! it was more the point that saying something about how you felt isn't automatically trashing someone. I admittedly haven't watched the Oprah interview (seen snippets) & don't really follow the press/Royals I just thought it was nice they were all together & I feel some of the public thrive of the division. That's the bit I don't get.

@Ohnonevermind come off of it. Let's be Frank part of the issue is Meg looks different too, that is a huge factor she is not quite white enough.... she doesn't have the blonde English hair or blue eyes.... but I suspect you are not ready to admit that is partly the reason.

If you follow my posts I've stayed quiet on here because I do not know the RF personally I have nothing to gain.

Another poster stated the RF are not dysfunctional but do you know what goes on behind close doors? Do you know the RF personally to be assuming so greatly. The RF sound about as functional as MM family if not worse..... because they hold higher status.

Upon this thread and others its affairs galore, it has come up several times yet apparently they are just a normal family 😂🤣

Catherine just looked like she was done with the whole situation.

I thought she seemed a bit distant & Meghan seemed quite meek & nervous. But I've not really watched any film footage of them so dont know what they are usually like.

Are William & Kate frowned upon if they hold hands?