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susan12345678 · 04/09/2022 05:49

With another podcast set for release this week, The Sunday Times has a piece addressing Harry and Meghan's apparent strategy:

Courtiers are bemused by the Sussexes’ determination to rage against the past. As Davis observed of Meghan in her article: “She has taken a hardship and turned it into content.” A source who knows the Sussexes questions why Meghan “is constantly looking back at how awful it was to briefly be a royal. What does success look like, is it a number in the bank? Is it that they’ve killed off the monarchy?” Another Palace source says: “Ultimately they are bashing the institution that has put them in the position they’re in, the longevity of that strategy is not sustainable.”

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/harry-and-meghan-keep-bashing-the-monarchy-because-its-good-business-royals-believe-nq29p6g7z

I'm curious about their strategy, too. They seem to think that criticizing the royal makes them look better - it really doesn't. Instead, it just makes them look petty and increasingly irrelevant.

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Readinginthesun · 08/09/2022 10:21

www.ipso.co.uk/media/1603/children-pub-info-v3.pdf

MangshorJhol · 08/09/2022 10:22

As a woman of colour who was also a big fan of Suits, (and who does think the media was racist- overtly or subtly) this article really captures why I remain skeptical about Meghan Markle:
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2022/sep/03/do-not-pretend-celebrity-princess-meghan-markle-can-meaningfully-advance-the-cause-of-racial-justice

Ohnonevermind · 08/09/2022 10:22

@Mumsnut
I don’t believe it either, trying to be victims again 🥱

They’re a non story in Germany - I know a foreign correspondent based there. No-one went 🤣

The Germans take security very seriously. The bill will be eye watering (I’ve been in Berlin on mayday and seen the security)

Ohnonevermind · 08/09/2022 10:29

Omid Scobie linked to Michelle Obama speaking which is a bad idea as it just highlights just how shallow and self centred and waffling Meghan is.

I wish Michelle would run !

SilverLiningPlaybook · 08/09/2022 10:36

Why can’t Omid Scobie just shut up..

DuckInAPuddle · 08/09/2022 11:30

Ohnonevermind · 08/09/2022 10:22

@Mumsnut
I don’t believe it either, trying to be victims again 🥱

They’re a non story in Germany - I know a foreign correspondent based there. No-one went 🤣

The Germans take security very seriously. The bill will be eye watering (I’ve been in Berlin on mayday and seen the security)

Agree with this, I'm in Germany and the visit really didn't seem to receive much media attention at all. I wasted a lot of time on Twitter yesterday (German politics Twitter is quite addictive and depressing in equal measure at the moment) and the only post I saw about Harry and Meghan was the one attached. Translation: "Harry and Meghan at the opening of two portaloos in Duesseldorf." 🙈

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susan12345678 · 08/09/2022 11:31

Why can’t Omid Scobie just shut up

He certainly does his clients no favours. Yesterday’s leak capped off a singularly disastrous pseudo-royal tour.

Hopefully H&M learn from the experience & don’t hurry back. It’s pretty clear there’s little for them here.

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susan12345678 · 08/09/2022 11:34

@DuckInAPuddle

who says Germans have no sense of humour? 😂

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SilverLiningPlaybook · 08/09/2022 11:35

🤣🤣🤣

unname · 08/09/2022 11:40

Mumsnut · 08/09/2022 10:13

I was totally confunded by M's comment about having to clear photos of her kids through the palace / give them to the media before giving them to friends?

Surely what happens is that photos intended for the media have to be released via the Palace, rather than willy-nilly, because of the 'royal rota' (which actually protects against the sort of press scrum she was alleging). I can't believe it applies to private photos.

I wondered about that also.

I can absolutely understand not wanting her children exposed to the media. I don’t even post pictures of my cats online.

pilates · 08/09/2022 11:44

When do they go back? Can’t come soon enough.

I haven’t spoken to anyone in real life that actually likes the way they present themselves. Not one person. Shame it could of been so different.

DFOD · 08/09/2022 11:48

Ohnonevermind · 08/09/2022 10:29

Omid Scobie linked to Michelle Obama speaking which is a bad idea as it just highlights just how shallow and self centred and waffling Meghan is.

I wish Michelle would run !

Maybe he should link Michele’s wise and compassionate interview about H&M directly after the OW interview.

Serenster · 08/09/2022 11:52

That German tweet made me laugh!

I’m not surprised the Sussexes have Omid Scobie putting out incendiary stories to be honest - the last three days and only two mentions on the font pages can’t be remotely the coverage they would have been hoping for from this trip.

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Serenster · 08/09/2022 11:56

(In a way it’s just unfortunate timing as I’m sure as the events they have come over for would have been diarised long ago and the coincidence with the new PM being announced and schools going back is just one of those things, but it’s not what they would have wanted for a heavily-trailed trip).

susan12345678 · 08/09/2022 12:01

@Serenster the return to school was always in the calendar- perhaps they’d hoped to trump it?

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 08/09/2022 12:03

Interesting link, Serenster, and so much for the suggestions that we've got a new PM and all the media can talk about is H&M

Serenster · 08/09/2022 12:08

I definitely think the comments in the Cut article (about Meghan would never be able to do the school run without it being a royal photo call with a press pen of 40 people snapping pictures, and how her saying no to that was because she was a strong and good parent protecting her child) was running some advance spoiling because she knew the school pictures would be out.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 08/09/2022 12:30

Serenster · 08/09/2022 12:08

I definitely think the comments in the Cut article (about Meghan would never be able to do the school run without it being a royal photo call with a press pen of 40 people snapping pictures, and how her saying no to that was because she was a strong and good parent protecting her child) was running some advance spoiling because she knew the school pictures would be out.

If so it seems a poor choice, since all it's done is highlight that it's perfectly possible for the RF to take the kids to school without a media scrum, and in doing so made the remark look rather foolish

MaulPerton · 08/09/2022 12:36

DuckInAPuddle · 08/09/2022 11:30

Agree with this, I'm in Germany and the visit really didn't seem to receive much media attention at all. I wasted a lot of time on Twitter yesterday (German politics Twitter is quite addictive and depressing in equal measure at the moment) and the only post I saw about Harry and Meghan was the one attached. Translation: "Harry and Meghan at the opening of two portaloos in Duesseldorf." 🙈

That made me laugh. Thank you for posting.

smilesy · 08/09/2022 12:50

i can’t remember if the Sussexes are still here. If they are, I hope they will go to Balmoral following the announcement about the Queen’s health concerns

maranella · 08/09/2022 12:51

Thanks for posting the front pages montages @Serenster - they really illustrate how unimportant H&M's little pseudo tour has been. I wonder too if there has been a decision by the British media to give them as little publicity as possible, or perhaps having them on the front page negatively affects sales?

DFOD · 08/09/2022 12:51

m.youtube.com/watch?v=AYyEx20DiKU

This is a fascinating watch - these are a panel of global experts on body language who analysed the OW interview.

Some interesting conclusions on what were likely lies, truths and fudges.

The phrase narcissist behaviour traits is mentioned a few times.

MiceMiceBaby · 08/09/2022 12:56

They didn’t want to go to Balmoral I thought? As if they give a shit about the Queen!

Mumsnut · 08/09/2022 12:59

Things have moved on, Mice :(

CPL593H · 08/09/2022 13:04

smilesy · 08/09/2022 12:50

i can’t remember if the Sussexes are still here. If they are, I hope they will go to Balmoral following the announcement about the Queen’s health concerns

Aren't they doing a speech here today? All other things aside, Harry's her grandson and I hope he can get there, like all the others.

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