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susan12345678 · 04/09/2022 05:49

With another podcast set for release this week, The Sunday Times has a piece addressing Harry and Meghan's apparent strategy:

Courtiers are bemused by the Sussexes’ determination to rage against the past. As Davis observed of Meghan in her article: “She has taken a hardship and turned it into content.” A source who knows the Sussexes questions why Meghan “is constantly looking back at how awful it was to briefly be a royal. What does success look like, is it a number in the bank? Is it that they’ve killed off the monarchy?” Another Palace source says: “Ultimately they are bashing the institution that has put them in the position they’re in, the longevity of that strategy is not sustainable.”

www.thetimes.co.uk/article/harry-and-meghan-keep-bashing-the-monarchy-because-its-good-business-royals-believe-nq29p6g7z

I'm curious about their strategy, too. They seem to think that criticizing the royal makes them look better - it really doesn't. Instead, it just makes them look petty and increasingly irrelevant.

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MarshaMelrose · 07/09/2022 19:28

Gilmorehill · 07/09/2022 18:38

Great point.

Actually her PR released this,statement.

Meghan is a fair boss and never bullied anyone who worked for her at the Palace in the first place. She’s happy that her name has been cleared from the defamatory claims.

So she has sort of exonerated herself. 😁

derxa · 07/09/2022 19:29

skullbabe · 07/09/2022 19:23

It actually was not. People die all the time. Imminent death does not mean that people should not express what they feel if it is unpleasant. This is said as someone who deals with death, dying and interpersonal relationships. Some people who are dying look like they are dying. He looked like he was dying.

Utterly gobsmacking

skullbabe · 07/09/2022 19:29

I have said nothing indefensible in this thread - illness, frailty and imminent death should not be a shield for bad behaviour - ever.

maranella · 07/09/2022 19:32

skullbabe · 07/09/2022 19:29

I have said nothing indefensible in this thread - illness, frailty and imminent death should not be a shield for bad behaviour - ever.

You keep telling yourself that - the rest of us see you clearly now.

smilesy · 07/09/2022 19:33

It actually was not. People die all the time. Imminent death does not mean that people should not express what they feel if it is unpleasant

Of course people die all the time, but it is surely common decency to think about how those closest to them would feel at this time. They probably do not want to hear other family members being unpleasant. Why does someone’s right to express how they feel take precedence over another persons right to feel upset by this at a difficult moment?

LondonWolf · 07/09/2022 19:33

skullbabe · 07/09/2022 19:29

I have said nothing indefensible in this thread - illness, frailty and imminent death should not be a shield for bad behaviour - ever.

What bad behaviour of PP's was deserving of his previously well loved and cared for grandson and his new wife going on OW to air his family's dirty laundry to millions?

IcedPurple · 07/09/2022 19:34

skullbabe · 07/09/2022 19:29

I have said nothing indefensible in this thread - illness, frailty and imminent death should not be a shield for bad behaviour - ever.

The 'bad behaviour' in question was that of the spoiled, juvenile brats who you laughably seem to think are noble, honourable victims.

MarshaMelrose · 07/09/2022 19:34

@FoggyCrumpet There was a programme on TV not too long ago about Imelda Marcus. She was invited back to The Philippines and has since held official govt office! Unbelievable. There's hope for Boris yet! Hah

LondonWolf · 07/09/2022 19:35

Actually don't bother to reply. Not to be dramatic but I honestly don't want to engage with you anymore.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 07/09/2022 19:35

Another treat from the pen of Meghan's freakish mouthpiece:
"Speak to real sources and you’ll find that the breathless speculation is questionable at best, gossip with an agenda at worst"

I can see the rationale of course, but can't quite bring myself to believe he wrote it given the anonymous sources and panting prose he spews out.
When it comes to an utter lack of self reflection they really are a match made in heaven (hell?)

susan12345678 · 07/09/2022 19:38

When it comes to an utter lack of self reflection they really are a match made in heaven (hell?)

Absolutely.

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StormzyinaTCup · 07/09/2022 19:39

Philip had been sick more and more over his last year and in his final six months he looked ghastly - the clock was ticking for him regardless of whether or not his grandson gave that interview.

Gosh!!
If your mum was in her 90s and you knew she didn’t have long to live you’d be OK going on a chat show in front of millions to sling some family mud around because, hey, she is in her 90s and going to die anyway so what does it matter?

I do hope you are not in the caring profession.

MarshaMelrose · 07/09/2022 19:41

@FoggyCrumpet That was very good. Very funny. You really could imagine her saying things like that - especially labelling her a frog. 🐸
I loved it. Thanks.

Roussette · 07/09/2022 19:45

BadgerB · 07/09/2022 17:39

skullbabe · Today 16:59
Her father behaved badly - only she knows the level of harm to herself

But did he really? He was photographed being measured for a suit and looking at a book about England.
Tom Bower says he was old, fat, shabby, and would spoil the look of the wedding - this was M's real objection
And then he published a "sad" letter she sent him - and which she intended him to leak.
Is this so bad that a woman who claims to be compassionate couldn't at least pick up the phone, or send a message when he was so ill.

She did. Harry did. That's not made up. It's true.

MaulPerton · 07/09/2022 19:45

Are H & M trying to kill off the Queen (referencing the 'It is the Cambridges who are accountable for all of this' headline reported in the DM)?

Puzzledandpissedoff · 07/09/2022 19:50

People die all the time. Imminent death does not mean that people should not express what they feel if it is unpleasant

Ouch Sad

Serenster · 07/09/2022 19:54

She did. Harry did. That's not made up. It's true.

It’s also true that Harry’s text to Thomas Markle was so unsavoury that it wasn’t read out in court, though, to save Harry’s blushes.

SpinCityBlues · 07/09/2022 19:59

FoggyCrumpet · 07/09/2022 18:59

Craig Brown appears to have had privileged advance access to a future podcast with Imelda Marcos. Usually he writes satire but this is speaks of accuracy...Grin

(Side issue - I had assumed Imelda was dead but Google tells me she is 93 years old and very appreciative of the honour of being invited for a chat with Meghan).

I can't read it unfortunately. This new MN platform seems to make images teeny tiny.

Roussette · 07/09/2022 20:10

Serenster · 07/09/2022 19:54

She did. Harry did. That's not made up. It's true.

It’s also true that Harry’s text to Thomas Markle was so unsavoury that it wasn’t read out in court, though, to save Harry’s blushes.

Whatever. I saw their messages pleading with him to come over, offering ppl he knew of to help him

MaulPerton · 07/09/2022 20:18

People die all the time. Imminent death does not mean that people should not express what they feel if it is unpleasant

It does, and they are at it once again now. They have no boundaries at all. Disgusting.

StickywithSuncream · 07/09/2022 20:19

Samcro · 07/09/2022 14:21

or maybe he was being loyal to his wife.

What, refusing to even hear out your own brother is not being ‘loyal’ to your wife?

Cone on!

Maybe if you’re 14 or in an episode of Hollyoaks that might be deemed a reasonable way to behave. It’s hardly the actions of a mature, psychologically healthy, adult, though, is it.

So much for empathy and compassion.

StormzyinaTCup · 07/09/2022 20:19

Whatever. I saw their messages pleading with him to come over, offering ppl he knew of to help him.

Was Prince Charles the driver behind that? I seem to recall something along those lines.

MarshaMelrose · 07/09/2022 20:26

StormzyinaTCup · 07/09/2022 20:19

Whatever. I saw their messages pleading with him to come over, offering ppl he knew of to help him.

Was Prince Charles the driver behind that? I seem to recall something along those lines.

Didn't Charles want her to go over and speak to him face to face? Because that's what old fuddy-duddies like him and me do. Not spend our time sending text messages. But she refused and said there'd be a media crush. But we know that both of them are capable of moving around the country without people knowing if they don't want people to see them so I don't know why she'd think that. Anyway, it was Charles who was telling them both to get it sorted. I think Harry confirmed that.

Roussette · 07/09/2022 20:27

StormzyinaTCup · 07/09/2022 20:19

Whatever. I saw their messages pleading with him to come over, offering ppl he knew of to help him.

Was Prince Charles the driver behind that? I seem to recall something along those lines.

No idea

Farmageddon · 07/09/2022 20:28

skullbabe · 07/09/2022 19:29

I have said nothing indefensible in this thread - illness, frailty and imminent death should not be a shield for bad behaviour - ever.

Except the bad behaviour in question was doing a scummy tell all interview, throwing baseless accusations around all while knowing he was in the last throws of his life.
There was no hurry to do that interview, they could have waited, or you know just not have gone there.

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