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The royal family

Meghan Markle Archetype podcast

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susan12345678 · 24/08/2022 08:30

Meghan's long-awaited podcast has launched. Sorry if there's a thread about this already. Has anyone listened to it yet? Thoughts?

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10toGo · 24/08/2022 11:03

NiceTwin · 24/08/2022 08:46

She comes across as having an almighty chip on her shoulder.
Didn't really have an opinion on her before. Now? Well I won't be listening again.I

Her child wasn't in a burning nursery because he was with the nanny yet she bleats about having to do another engagement. Crikey, if we all crumbled whenever we had a perceived near miss in life, not a lot would get done.

The child wasn’t in a burning nursery because on that day it was 30 degrees and sunny! Why would the heater have been on?!

SueSaid · 24/08/2022 11:05

Have only seen the clips on daytime telly but wow she is beautiful and such a lovely speaker.

Couple of things puzzled me, 'this is me, not through the media lens' seeming to forget we saw and heard her poor me comments on the African tour, we heard all about how horrid everyone was in Finding Freedom and lastly of course didn’t they star in an hour long slagging off the rf chat show with Opray Winfrey? Not so much 'through a media lens' more the Sussex (recollections may vary) lens.

Good luck to her, but does she really pull the wool over fans in the US?

Wonnle · 24/08/2022 11:07

Ohnonevermind · 24/08/2022 11:01

P&G is proctor and gamble. Meghan has been using a story of how she got an ad changed by writing to them about how it depicts women. She usually finds a way to use it in her speeches

It turns out her dad faked the response though from the company but she’s still going to run with it.

She’s mentioned it so many times, it does make you wonder why she doesn’t have more stories

So she's basically lying about it then

RichardsGear · 24/08/2022 11:18

Thank you. The only P&G I could think of was Proctor & Gamble but forgot about that connection (or non-connection as the case may be!).

Ohnonevermind · 24/08/2022 11:18

@Wonnle

i don’t know whether lying about it is fair. I don’t know when she became aware the story was false .

But the fact that’s she’s still using it means she’s a little light on positive empowerment stories.

NanaNelly · 24/08/2022 11:27

Wonnle · 24/08/2022 11:07

So she's basically lying about it then

I don’t think so.

I think she did write to them but anything afterwards is far from how she portrays it.

Serenster · 24/08/2022 11:37

I found it annoying that she brought up the story of Archie and the fire that he thankfully was nowhere near as an example of the unfair expectations on her.

I empathise with her as an anxious first-time parent, as I’ve been one myself. But I’ve also had to be the working parent taking a call from the nursery saying that my child had clashed heads with another child/been bitten by another child/been stung by a bee etc and had to swallow down the “I should have been there” feelings and get on with my job. Because my child was okay, and because I couldn’t be there every second of the day. I imagine most working mothers have been through this.

If I genuinely couldn’t carry on working after something could have happened to my child but didn’t, I am lucky in that I would have been able to leave work for the day. I wouldn’t have asked to do so however as to my mind that’s not a reasonable request. This kind of thing is part of the normal ups and downs of life, and as an adult it’s my job to manage my feelings, not expect others to accommodate them.

Meghan of course appears to have felt much more strongly about this. She absolutely could have said that she wasn’t leaving Archie that afternoon, however. She herself had missed engagements the year before while on tour and pregnant with Archie. Kate had not attended an awards ceremony because of some unspecified childcare issue. Diana had done similarly, most famously clearing her diary for a couple of days after William was hit on the head with a golf club at school, and needed surgery. The world did not end in any of these occurrences. People understood.

Positioning it now, a few years later, that she had no choice despite her own feelings certainly will provoke sympathy for her. I have my doubts as to whether it’s an accurate reflection of the situation, however.

SilverLiningPlaybook · 24/08/2022 11:39

It was a class exercise too, not something she dreamed up on her own.

Wouldloveanother · 24/08/2022 11:43

Didn’t meghan return from her maternity leave after 5 months ish? If she wanted to stay home with the baby I’m sure she could’ve taken longer.

TrashyPanda · 24/08/2022 11:46

I am reminded of the late Alan Clarke, who confessed to being “economical with the actualite”.

except, of course, he owned up. Which is a big difference.

with Meghan, I am firmly in the Judge Judy school of thought: “don’t piss on my leg and tell me it’s raining”.

Madasahattersteaparty1749 · 24/08/2022 11:46

I think she has a beautiful speaking voice and agree with another poster that she should do more voice over work.

It was a great subject to do the podcast on but the actual podcast was not great.

She is not a natural interviewer instead over talking and turning the conversation about her. This maybe her conversational style but doesn’t portray well on a podcast.

Hopefully she learns from this as the topics she has picked really do need discussing.

Wonnle · 24/08/2022 11:47

Madasahattersteaparty1749 · 24/08/2022 11:46

I think she has a beautiful speaking voice and agree with another poster that she should do more voice over work.

It was a great subject to do the podcast on but the actual podcast was not great.

She is not a natural interviewer instead over talking and turning the conversation about her. This maybe her conversational style but doesn’t portray well on a podcast.

Hopefully she learns from this as the topics she has picked really do need discussing.

But isn't everything always about her ?

Ohnonevermind · 24/08/2022 11:49

While she went off at the time, I think she’s reviewing everything through the prism of victimhood now.
There’s a spoiler now for the Netflix documentary now 🤣🤣🤣 they won’t be best pleased as we can see they’re fairly short on real stories

Ohnonevermind · 24/08/2022 11:50

@Madasahattersteaparty1749

i think reviewers of the Disney documentary said her voice is lovely but her range of expression is rather limited.

notanotheroneagain · 24/08/2022 11:52

Damn, MN has gone down the sewer !

queenofarles · 24/08/2022 11:53

If I genuinely couldn’t carry on working after something could have happened to my child but didn’t, I am lucky in that I would have been able to leave work for the day. I wouldn’t have asked to do so however as to my mind that’s not a reasonable request. This kind of thing is part of the normal ups and downs of life, and as an adult it’s my job to manage my feelings, not expect others to accommodate them.

not many have this choice, and certainly not something that highlights the expectations a lot of women face.

susan12345678 · 24/08/2022 11:56

Hopefully she learns from this as the topics she has picked really do need discussing

I agree - it’s interesting

I’m not sure Serena is a natural fit for the topic because her ambition hasn’t really been thwarted - she may attract critics but she has been immensely successful. And giving birth to a child may or may not have affected her game - or it may just be age.

I wonder whether it’s hubris, rather than ‘ambition’ that attracts criticism. Few are more ambitious than Elon Musk, for example, and he attracts plenty of ire.

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Maireas · 24/08/2022 12:01

I agree with you, @ Serenster - and like most women I wouldn't have been able to leave work either. You just don't have the option other than to carry on. It's always stressful at work when you have young children, and she no doubt had a nasty shock - you always imagine what could have been, don't you?
I think parenthood with those kinds of roles is demanding and the mental load goes on to women. I'd like to hear Michelle Obama and Hillary Clinton talk about this - I'm sure they are familiar with the situation.

ArcaneLana · 24/08/2022 12:02

I think Serena was the right fit because she had to overcome so much to get to the top.The racism and misogyny she faced when she started and throughout her successful career could have easily thwarted her ambition. I admire her so much .

Maireas · 24/08/2022 12:05

I admire Serena as well - she got less sponsorship than many other women players, for example. She's certainly very driven and determined and I'd like to hear more about her life and career.

Ohnonevermind · 24/08/2022 12:09

I admire Serena too

slowquickstep · 24/08/2022 12:14

Me me Meagain, she never gives it a rest. How anyone believes a word that comes out of her mouth i don't know.

Serenster · 24/08/2022 12:18

The racism and misogyny she faced when she started and throughout her successful career could have easily thwarted her ambition. I admire her so much

It’s still around - compare the reaction when she was furious at being defaulted at the US Open to the free pass that Nick Kyrgios is currently getting for his awful on-court antics (and don’t get me started about how a movie about her and Venus’ amazing career only got made because was all about their FATHER, and it was Will Smith who won all the awards….!!!).

susan12345678 · 24/08/2022 12:24

I agree about Kyrgios! It’s unbelievable what he gets away with

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Readinginthesun · 24/08/2022 12:27

I agree she has a nice speaking voice but I was surprised she didn’t ask Serena more , after all she is an amazing tennis player and wonderful role model .
I can’t believe the “fire story” hasn’t emerged before now ! Why was there a heater on in 30+ degree ?
And a bit off to call the the place they were staying as a Housing Unit .was it not an official residence ?

Overall it was an whingefest .

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