First visit of royal tour cancelled because of local protest

[Viviennemary]

Just seen on sky news William and Kates visit to a farm in the Caribbean was cancelled becsuse of a local protest. I am with these locals. From their point of view why should those two very entitled unelected multi millionaires who have virtually nothing to do with their country be visiting and expecting to be honoured and bowed and scraped to. They are no better or important than anybody else.

@ notanotheroneagain
I am the guilty party here as ( I have already said) another poster said that the amount Catherine spent on her tour wardrobe was “ obscene “ and I pointed out the cost of Meghan’s engagement .
dress .

In what way was Catherine’s tour wardrobe inappropriate? Have any of the people they met complained ?

Meghan’s wedding dress cost similar to Catherine’s.

It seems you can't talk about W&K on here without m being mentioned.

In what way was Catherine’s tour wardrobe inappropriate?

Your question wasn't directed at me, but personally I think there were too many outfit changes. She really didn't need a different outfit for every single appearance. Also, the almost interchangeable floaty summer dresses, while nice enough, didn't give a very 'grown up' appearance. Not a major criticism, but it added to the overall 'vibe' of the tour.

I did love the yellow Roksanda gown however. And the 'Gone With The Wind' evening dress.

@Samcro

It seems you can't talk about W&K on here without m being mentioned.

It was one of 'M's' biggest fans who first mentioned her however.

@IcedPurple if you are used to lying about MM, you are not going to lie about me. The first time MM's name is mention on here is page 3 with the line
If you mean MM she isn't black she's mixed race

It was not me who said this.

Stop lying !

In terms of the fashion itself, it was someone else who mentioned her outfits first, not me.

• if you are used to lying about MM, you are not going to lie about me. The first time MM's name is mention on here is page 3 with the line If you mean MM she isn't black she's mixed race*

I haven't seen that comment, but I wonder if it was in response to this comment from you on the very first page?

"If the queen is going to gaslight black people by calling racism 'recollections may vary', they should not expect the warmest welcome."

You've sought to insert Meghan into this conversation on a number of different occasions. That doesn't bother me, but getting all indignant about 'What has Meghan got to do with this?" when you don't approve of the comments is a bit silly.

I was referring to the Queen' statement, which people of colour found offensive and gaslighting.

As I had attached, some people in Jamaica had demanded a response to that.

I haven't seen that comment, but I wonder if it was in response to this comment from you on the very first page?

It was indeed a response to that comment. I have just checked. Although it is on page 2, not the first page 🤣

@smilesy

I haven't seen that comment, but I wonder if it was in response to this comment from you on the very first page?

It was indeed a response to that comment. I have just checked. Although it is on page 2, not the first page 🤣

I guess it depends on your page set up. It's on the first page for me!

No matter. I just dislike the attempts to police these threads. Discussions like these often go off on tangents, which doesn't bother me, but it's a bit rich for posters to chastise others for doing something they have done repeatedly themselves.

No matter. I just dislike the attempts to police these threads. Discussions like these often go off on tangents, which doesn't bother me, but it's a bit rich for posters to chastise others for doing something they have done repeatedly themselves

Agreed. Discussions often meander of course. And threads about one member of the Royal Family will naturally invite comparisons with others members.

When a tour dos not go the way you want, you then release a statement at the END of the tour, of why you came in the first place.

You then do not give the apology that is being asked of you. Instead you give out vibes of 'we used, abused you and your resources and are still benefit to that today. But if you want to leave it's your choice, it's not like I want to be your leader anyway'. Those are the vibes from William's 'unprecedented' statement after the tour.

news.sky.com/story/prince-william-suggests-commonwealth-could-be-led-by-a-non-royal-one-day-12575905?dcmp=snt-sf-twitter

But if you want to leave it's your choice, it's not like I want to be your leader anyway

What is it about the statement that makes you come to that conclusion?

I was referring to the Queen' statement, which people of colour found offensive and gaslighting
As I had attached, some people in Jamaica had demanded a response to that

If you mean the "recollections may vary" thing, I'm honestly not sure why some in Jamaica would need a response? After all it was in a statement about a very specific set of circumstances, and quite rightly not a reflection on Jamaicans (or any other nationality come to that)

FWIW I totally get Commonwealth members having concerns about some RF issues - the lack of POC at higher levels of employment comes to mind - but surely not about something so individual, unless they know details the rest of us don't

The words "recollections may vary" were about everything which was said in the Oprah interview, not just one thing.

@notanotheroneagain

I'm not sure why Meghan's engagement dress is discussed so much on here. As I said, KM's wedding dress cost over 300K and I don't begrudge that price as I understand it that the wedding/engagement dresses and such occasions will end up in a museum. They represent a certain historical occasion.

I said KM's wardrobe amount was inappropriate for the tour and countries she was visiting, for the reasons I had already stated.

Other posters brought up MM, I responded to them.

Well you’d be strange if you did begrudge the price - her parents paid for it.

The 'specific circumstance' is about race.
If it's about everything that was said, it's even worse, not just gaslighting people of colour, but those who suffer from MH issues too.

How about 'recollections may vary' irt the bullying issue, considering the ones who where supposedly bullied wanted nothing to do with this charge.

Or better yet, just say you will do a thorough investigation - as you do with the bullying.

I can't imagine how heartbreaking it must have been for Doria when her daughter was being treated like this by her own in laws and the firm she works for, especially when she is being portrayed in this way, when she had a clean record beforehand.

@notanotheroneagain

The 'specific circumstance' is about race. If it's about everything that was said, it's even worse, not just gaslighting people of colour, but those who suffer from MH issues too.

How about 'recollections may vary' irt the bullying issue, considering the ones who where supposedly bullied wanted nothing to do with this charge.

Or better yet, just say you will do a thorough investigation - as you do with the bullying.

I can't imagine how heartbreaking it must have been for Doria when her daughter was being treated like this by her own in laws and the firm she works for, especially when she is being portrayed in this way, when she had a clean record beforehand.

Well Meghan is free from all of this now. You should be delighted for her.

HM’s statement in response to the OW interview :
“The whole family is saddened to learn the full extent of how challenging the last few years have been for Harry and Meghan. The issues raised, particularly that of race, are concerning," the statement read. "While some recollections may vary, they are taken very seriously and will be addressed by the family privately. Harry, Meghan and Archie will always be much loved family members."

Refers to the issues raised - not just the alleged racism .

Well Meghan is free from all of this now. You should be delighted for her

I certainly am!

Well done them leaving.

notanotheroneagain unless you are a couture customer yourself then you can’t possibly guess the price of either Kate or Megan’s dress, all these prices are applicable, you can’t just ring up Alexander McQueen or Givenchy and ask for the cost of the dresses, they never mention that ,
and as I’ve mentioned there is a huge probability that the prices are reduced.

Roussette

Well Meghan is free from all of this now. You should be delighted for her

I certainly am!

Well done them leaving.“

But they didn’t actually want to leave!

Really?
I disagree. You will now talk of half in half out stuff. The RF would never accept anything different to what it's been in the last 70 years, so it was no go.

Maybe there'll be changes in the decades to come for modernisation

@ Roussette

Not going to get in to an argument and derail this thread even further but it was clear from H and M’s initial statement in Jan 2020 that they had no plans to fully leave .

Yes, so my previous post applies fully