First visit of royal tour cancelled because of local protest

[Viviennemary]

Just seen on sky news William and Kates visit to a farm in the Caribbean was cancelled becsuse of a local protest. I am with these locals. From their point of view why should those two very entitled unelected multi millionaires who have virtually nothing to do with their country be visiting and expecting to be honoured and bowed and scraped to. They are no better or important than anybody else.

Meghan had a very expensive wardrobe and set of jewellery when she visited a very poor school in Harlem to read her book to them. Was that flaunting her wealth and inappropriate too? Should she had dressed in tracky bottoms?

@SallyLockheart

Meghan had a very expensive wardrobe and set of jewellery when she visited a very poor school in Harlem to read her book to them. Was that flaunting her wealth and inappropriate too? Should she had dressed in tracky bottoms?

Conveniently forgotten it seems.

Meghan was in the USA - wearing designer with big stores all over NY and the USA in general. Most likely she would have received for free as she can do that now. She clustered her visit to several places too.

In Africa, she pared down her look with a mixture of African designers and sustainable companies created by people of colour.

Anyway what has Meghan got to do with this Caribbean trip ?

Most likely she would have received for free

those are great optics, aren't they? Look kids from a deprived area, you can get ahead and wear very expensive designer clothes for free if you marry a famous person who makes you famous by association?

@SallyLockheart

Most likely she would have received for free

those are great optics, aren't they? Look kids from a deprived area, you can get ahead and wear very expensive designer clothes for free if you marry a famous person who makes you famous by association?

Yup. Apart from the fact that if they are free it’s appalling that she would accept them on the basis they are only given because of Royal associations which she has contempt for anyway.

Why would she not accept them ?
The taxpayer is not footing that bill.

Kate goes to poor people charities all the time in expensive gab here in the UK. Do you criticise her for 'look poor plebs, you can fleece your poor parents and families by making them pay for expensive designer clothes for you if you marry a famous person who makes you famous by association'

There are definitely allegiances on these kind of threads with regards certain posters, and it does seem hypocritical to be so critical of anything and everything, even down to the value of what that person is wearing when such things aren’t an issue for other people in the public eye who have the allegiance of the poster.
I believe that it what is the issue here.
Using the word vulgar and obscene to be critical in posts is harsh. For jewellery that could have been a present and has been worn more than once and will continue to be worn and passed on like any jewellery.
Rather than a dress that was bought for $70K+ worn once and never to be seen again. Would that be described as vulgar and obscene or is that ok because it was worn be someone different?

A couple of typos there. Apologies!

@MummyJ12

Quite ironing to make this statement when you, yourself are one sided, and go on to quote a one sided price.

You have never once criticised the name calling and of individuals H&M which is not just repeated, but is personal about them as people. You will also know from previous threads that describing amounts and costs as obscene and vulgar are tame compared to the names ascribed to H&M.

As for the dress of 70K, we have also seen one dress for over 300K from another individual which is never to be seen again. They are all for certain special occasions, which traditionally mean they end up in a museum for historic purposes.
I have never criticised these and I don't know why you are bringing them in a conversation that has nothing to do with them.

I was critical of no one. Just playing devils advocate

Hate+Hate=Hate. It will get you nowhere

Wish you could write that on the barrage of H&M threads !

I don’t get involved in them now. As you probably know.

@MummyJ12

There are definitely allegiances on these kind of threads with regards certain posters, and it does seem hypocritical to be so critical of anything and everything, even down to the value of what that person is wearing when such things aren’t an issue for other people in the public eye who have the allegiance of the poster. I believe that it what is the issue here. Using the word vulgar and obscene to be critical in posts is harsh. For jewellery that could have been a present and has been worn more than once and will continue to be worn and passed on like any jewellery. Rather than a dress that was bought for $70K+ worn once and never to be seen again. Would that be described as vulgar and obscene or is that ok because it was worn be someone different?

spot on

FUN FACTS !

1. The British Press has not compiled a full list of KM wardrobe giving us the full 'exorbitant' amount in one go.

1. A certain hateful rag, quickly put together a full list of all of MM's outfits in the USA tour. For all her outfit changes MM wore the same Cartier watch and bracelet - all part of her own collection, which she has worn several times before. The cost of this jewellery was included down in each outfit breakdown. The total cost 'eye watering' cost of her trip wardrobe included this bracelet X4 times according to each change of clothes.

1. When MM's wardrobe is calculated, it usually includes her wedding ring, meaning her outfits generally cost a fortune.

Someone breaks it down here : twitter.com/Tanisha_Ev/status/1472012286088912898

I have never been a fan of William and Kate, have always thought they were insipid and not much of an asset to the RF.

However, after this tour I am really impressed and beginning to change my opinion about them, despite all the controversy , they have handled it extremely diplomatically and have managed to remain pretty stoic in the midst of what turned into a right old PR disaster, which was absolutely not of their making.

Impressive on both their parts, new found respect for both of them.

The British Press has not compiled a full list of KM wardrobe giving us the full 'exorbitant' amount in one go

Reluctant to link the dreaded Mail, but ...

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-8394357/Kate-Middleton-wore-94-000-worth-new-clothing-2020.html

A screenshot will do @Puzzledandpissedoff if you don't want to link.

But is that a 2020 article, as I was referring to this tour. No doubt the article will be filled with the usual, she recycles etc.

to be fair, that was for a full year. She does have a default uniform of very well tailored dress coats but they do seem practical and very smart, fit her to a tee and photograph well.

And an absolutely brilliant statement from William, can't believe I am even writing that. Good on him and his team.

Haven't the Daily Fail been doing a daily calculation of cost of what Kate wore on this tour, ?

I guess they still need to do the full reconciliation, the tour only finished yesterday.

In relation to your first point, notanotheroneagain, if you had been looking at press coverage of the royals for longer you would have seen that everything Kate has worn has regularly been priced by the press, and it still is. I know her Rixo dress yesterday cost £240 or so, and the Alessandra Rich dress from the formal departure from the Bahamas, was more than £2000 for example, despite not having not looked either up myself.

As for your second point, the Van Cleef and Arpels jewellery Kate wore in the Bahamas was included in the cost of her outfit in the coverage of it. This lead at least one poster to assume it was new and criticise it, despite it being a piece Kate has worn before (and it may have been a gift, we don’t know).

Kate’s jewellery is generally included in the costs of her outfits too. If you followed her coverage regularly, you’d have seen this.

I must remember those words "bow and scrape".

"Tone death", that's what they say on a different thread.

Haven't the Daily Fail been doing a daily calculation of cost of what Kate wore on this tour, ? yes including today’s Alessandra rich dress.

But like most of what happened on this trip some people only choose to see what they want to see.