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Prince Harry not attending Philips memorial

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FlyingGeeseAgain · 11/03/2022 22:27

It has been confirmed that Prince Harry will not be attending P Philips memorial service. What are people’s thoughts about this? Is the whole security issue a smoke screen for the fact he can’t face his family?

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notanotheroneagain · 11/04/2022 12:38

Even on my original comment, I was referring to the reporters and press commentators.

It was glaring when someone put out a collage of the women who constantly criticise MM.

EdithWeston · 11/04/2022 15:29

Most of the time we don't know what public work Sophie Wessex does either. Because the press just don't report on her work - which is a shame as it includes FGM, domestic abuse, online child exploitation and rape as a tool of war.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 11/04/2022 15:50

40x40 was a success

By what criteria? (Not a snarky question, I'd genuinely like to know)
You mentioned the professionals involved saying what they doing on SM, so I picked out Melissa McCarthy, tried to find anything and failed - unless it's all on Twatter which I don't use?

As said, I fully agree some of it's worthwhile - hence the mention of Invictus - but it's the sheer number of "causes" they claim to be involved with that I wonder about.
Like Travalyst, which received a huge wad of cash from the Sussex Foundation but somehow managed to make just £11,500 "profit" in it's first year ... is that supposed to be a success too?

Puzzledandpissedoff · 11/04/2022 16:04

Also just looked up Sentabele, another very worthwhile-seeming project

The accounts are here sentebale.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/09/Annual-Report-2020_final.pdf and interestingly, for the last year, the surplus of income over expenditure is a minus (though there's been the usual shifting around of pots of money to cover it)

I know, I know - Covid and all that - but as with Travalyst it would be interesting to learn where all this money really is going. Perhaps Harry is more his father's son than we thought, given the number of Charles's charities which have also run out of steam?

notanotheroneagain · 11/04/2022 16:19

As someone who is always checking on what H&M do, I'm sure you are aware that Archewell has the everyday people testifying to what services they have offered to 40x40.

You may as well also watch SM, as I said, the tabloids are not interested in anything good that H&M do, so your information about their causes is limited. There are several people on SM who have said what they did for the project.

I am wondering what your problem is exactly with their causes, I am quite sure they are less than (and paid more attention to) than the RF patronages.

Travelyst is relatively new, so will need some start up capital. Travel industry all round has had setback due to Covid. It is not a profit making charity to top it off, but one that will need different governments and organisations to help - just like most environmental related causes. Being in the black at this point is a positive thing.

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notanotheroneagain · 11/04/2022 16:31

Harry raised one 3M for Sentebale, which will show in this year financial report. It will be spent as it should be.

Chilledchablis1 · 11/04/2022 16:58

@ notanotheroneagain

Good grief , do you spend your time trawling Twitter etc for positive articles about MM ?

Chilledchablis1 · 11/04/2022 16:59

Sorry and H

notanotheroneagain · 11/04/2022 17:01

Comes out naturally on my SM timeline.

Do you spend your time looking for negativity on them?

Chilledchablis1 · 11/04/2022 17:07

Not at all. To be honest I wouldn’t have to look far however I have far more important things to do .

notanotheroneagain · 11/04/2022 17:12

No you wouldn't have to look far. The tabloids is full of negativity, daily.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 11/04/2022 18:26

The tabloids is full of negativity, daily

I wouldn't quite say "daily", but it's true they're full of negativity (and not just about H&M) which is why I don't read them - nor Twatter come to that, though it's strange to see it regarded as some sort of authoritative source

However, as with all RF charities, what interests me isn't so much the upfront fluff about what's going to happen, more what's actually being done - so if you could quote some reputable source telling us what all those names who signed up to 40x40 are actually doing, that would be great

notanotheroneagain · 11/04/2022 18:50

Twitter in itself is not the source, but the direct access to the actual people are, straight from the horse's mouth. As I have posted a few times.

As I said, Archewell site has posts from the people that worked on the 40x40 project themselves, saying what they did.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 11/04/2022 19:17

Archewell site has posts from the people that worked on the 40x40 project themselves, saying what they did

Not quite, notanotheroneagain; the posts say a bit about what their expertise is and what they're offering, but there seems to be no follow-up about what's happened since the launch

I googled "name / 40x40" too, but the results just take me back to the Archewell site so I'm no further forward. Surely there must be something which would indicate how it's all going?

Chilledchablis1 · 11/04/2022 19:28

Puzzledandpissedoff

“Archewell site has posts from the people that worked on the 40x40 project themselves, saying what they did

Not quite, notanotheroneagain; the posts say a bit about what their expertise is and what they're offering, but there seems to be no follow-up about what's happened since the launch

I googled "name / 40x40" too, but the results just take me back to the Archewell site so I'm no further forward. Surely there must be something which would indicate how it's all going?“

Much against my better judgment I also googled and couldn’t find any update or even the 40 celebrities who apparently signed up . There are, however , several articles asking what is happening.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 11/04/2022 19:34

Perhaps if they find out they'll share the info with the rest of us Chablis ... ?

notanotheroneagain · 11/04/2022 19:49

Not too sure what you are trying to dig for here.

And I put up a couple of posts direct from people who showed what they did. This was a request from MM, these people are not employed and are not doing this as employees. So I don't see why you think MM should now chase them up with quick deadlines etc. Several people have come out to say what they could offer, some what they did, others what they received.

Who knows, the birthday request is not even a year old yet, so maybe they may contact some of the people who benefited and those who gave their time.

I am saying, the number of people taking it up is a success. I really do not consider these individuals to be liars.

Overall, I find it a useful endeavour than taking airbrushed pics of herself for her birthday.

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notanotheroneagain · 11/04/2022 20:01

Meghan is confirmed as going to Invictus.

Yes, it was on twitter @Puzzledandpissedoff, but as you recognise the name, it's from an ITV royal reporter.

Chris is negative about them, but I doubt he would 'confirm' an outright lie about this.

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Chilledchablis1 · 11/04/2022 20:06

I thought it was common knowledge that she was going @ notanotheroneagain ? It has already been “leaked “

As I said a few days ago , I hope that H finds time to pop over and see HM .

notanotheroneagain · 11/04/2022 20:14

It was speculation, not confirmed.

As I said, hope HM finds it in her heart to sort out his security.

Also, absolutely disgusting that the Met are also in on the racism against MM - an elite squad at that.

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Puzzledandpissedoff · 11/04/2022 20:18

I don't see why you think MM should now chase them up with quick deadlines etc.

Were on earth did I suggest anything like that? Confused
Far from expecting Meghan to chase, I'd hope that loads of the stuff offered is being done by the volunteers themselves, and that somewhere - anywhere - there'd be some indication it's actually happening so we can assess for ourselves how successful it all is

What I'm "digging for" really is as simple as that - not sure how much more straightforwardly I can put it?

AnastasiaRomanov · 11/04/2022 20:18

At least they’ve stopped the lectures via zoom… for now.

notanotheroneagain · 11/04/2022 20:22

As I said, it's only been less than a year since the birthday. Maybe you can ask those who volunteered what they did, instead of implying that MM's project did not work.

Chilledchablis1 · 11/04/2022 20:26

@ notanotheroneagain

“As I said, hope HM finds it in her heart to sort out his security.”

And as I - and others- have said , if H is visiting HM he will automatically be protected by RF security : is that really so hard to understand?

notanotheroneagain · 11/04/2022 20:32

What is hard to understand is that you think no one is going to figure that Harry may pop over to the UK. Now you are expecting him to come over to just only see his grandmother at Windsor or wherever only. Have no security to and from the airport - since it's not a work related visit.

Like, the airport route has to be the easiest target ever.

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