William and Kate are 40 this year!

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And I am too. Only wish I could look as good as Kate! I wonder how they will celebrate?

It's easy to fake happiness the few minutes at a time she bothers to appear in public. Though I'd be pretty delighted with myself if I lived her life - palaces and jewels as far as the eye can see in exchange for the odd Zoom call or turning up at a hospital or an art gallery and pretending to be interested for 45 minutes at a time. And we pay for her.

@Samcro

i thing if he had an affair it should be in the public domain. they sell a story that they are such a happy family. if that is lies then people should know, at the end of the day he is paid by the public.

How do you define an affair? Emotional affair? Flirting? Sex? Going to dinner together?

There's a lot of eye contact between them when they are pictured out. Obviously she's good at smiling serenely and asking nice questions, but there is clear non verbal communication between them.

It was reported in other countries as a fact.
How would we define an affair? Is that getting into - "I did not have relations with that woman" territory?
Evidence is a strange one. What evidence does anyone ever have about an affair unless the two people involved admit it?

I never read any article that reported it as fact. They all reported on the rumour.

@NearlyAHoarder there is not a lot of eye contact if you watch actual video.
In theory it should be no ones business if an affair has happened or not. Or if they are happy or not.
In practice, one of the ways they convince us to give them their money is by posing as a perfect happy family. If they are not, would people still be happy to give them their money?

@NearlyAHoarder I dont think we could post foreign links here, could we?

People post anything here.
If you google it, nothing more concrete than ''rumoured to have had an affair'' comes up. I couldn't find it! If any country has reported it as fact, I would be interested.

Okay just looked. Those that present it as fact all quote someone who says it is a fact. I am guessing that is how they get around any worries of being sued.

Its also funny how the fans try and pretend William could have had any woman he wanted. When all the rumours are that various women he proposed to, turned him down.

@RoyalFamilyFan

Its also funny how the fans try and pretend William could have had any woman he wanted. When all the rumours are that various women he proposed to, turned him down.

Do you have names, RoyalFan, or are you just making it up? Whereas we know several of Harry’s long term exes didn’t want any further involvement and ran. Cressida, Chelsea etc

Do you have names, RoyalFan, or are you just making it up? Whereas we know several of Harry’s long term exes didn’t want any further involvement and ran. Cressida, Chelsea etc

It is not fact that Harry proposed to these women. It is something that is being bandied about without details. I don't think even their friends have said it let alone give a proposal date, circumstances etc.

A bit like the rumour that William wanted to marry Jecca Craig or was turned down by an American named Meghan.

It's all a bit sad, isn't it.

Charles proposed to numerous women, Harry did or might've done, William probably too.
What does that say about the life for an outsider. A pretty awful life that's what. Not in the material riches, splendour, luxury, servants, way... but in the way of being your own person with an opinion way.

Any names, RoyalFan?

Rubics? Are you seriously suggesting William proposed to Meghan first? What rumour mills do you listen to? More celebitchy? Isn’t that your normal source of William “facts”?

I have read lots of articles about the specific Aristocratic women William proposed to. None of them was interested.
Names? Isabella Calthorpe is rumoured to have said no several times to William. Jecca Craig.
I have no idea obviously if they did turn him down. But I can see how being a Royal wife would not appeal to most aristocratic young women.

Funnily enough, rumours do NOT equal to facts. You have no idea - harvesting tabloid articles and fancies is not real life. Do you believe all the articles written about Meghan and Harry in magazines?

@SallyLockheart of course it does not equal facts. But there have been rumours about Charles, Harry and William being turned down when proposing because for aristocratic young women, marrying into the RF is not that attractive a proposition unless you are a more distant Royal. The press intrusion alone is not worth it.
So yes I do believe that some women William was interested in may not have been thrilled at the idea of becoming Queen.

The reason I believe it is that both male heirs are supposed to have had issues finding someone they wanted to marry and who would also be happy to be Queen. Surely you can accept that it is not like a normal marriage proposal?

You know, those Meghan rumours shocked me too

I believe that the pool of women who would marry into the RF is minuscule. William
was very lucky to find Catherine and I wouldn't be surprised if Harry might have been selective with the truth so that Meghan would marry him.

Cherry. Absolutely. But I still find it hard that even if Harry hadn’t told Meghan much, she wouldn’t have done her research. An avid royal fan, apparently, and the drawbacks of being a royal girlfriend and wife have been well documented in the media. It’s certainly not a normal life

@cherryonthecakes

I believe that the pool of women who would marry into the RF is minuscule. William was very lucky to find Catherine and I wouldn't be surprised if Harry might have been selective with the truth so that Meghan would marry him.

Harry's two previous girlfriends were very wary of being in the public eye, so when he met mm and she wasnt scared of being in the public eye, i can imagine he was relieved initially.

Harry's two previous girlfriends were very wary of being in the public eye, so when he met mm and she wasnt scared of being in the public eye, i can imagine he was relieved initially.
I think because he dated the others for a while in the UK under the gaze of the press, it gave them a taste of what marriage works be like. Even if H did tell MM the full truth, to be fair, I doubt that she could truly imagine what it would be like in reality. I guess if it's true that W urged him to take his time, that's what he meant, to see if she really wanted that life. If naked pictures of her had been published on the Internet, I wonder if she would have had the tools and the support to handle it.