In what capacity are Harry and Meghan visiting New York

[IsabelBeck]

They are no longer working members of the Royal Family so have they gone to New York as private citizens?

How do they get to meet with Chelsea Clinton at the WHO offices and UN officials and politicians?

According to the Mail (I know, I know) they had federal protection.

Do Prince Harry and Meghan, the Duke and Duchess of Sussex (as they are styled there) have much clout in the US? Why?

Their recent we are saviours of the developing world “vaccinate the world” was slapped down by scientists and showed they have no clue the challenges it presents and why it isn’t happening.

Granted the richer countries are reluctant to share, but even if they did the challenges to carry it out in third world countries wasn’t even researched well. They were out there on stage blaming pharmaceutical companies

@Zuluqueen

I think they are doing well. Meghan doesn’t to be a yoga teacher & Harry doesn’t have to be the face of Africa. They are living their lives and not draining money from UK taxpayers. She was told to go home & she went .

No they are wannabe celebs being paid to record themselves giving woke lectures about things they know nothing about. I see absolutely nothing successful about that.

Those criticising, why do you even care?
Unlike Prince Andrew, we are not paying for Harry and Meghan. I don't care what they do in the same way I don't care what any celebrity in the US does as long as it is not criminal.

@Washeduponthebeach you lost me at woke. We have been taught from a young age that we have to be woke so guess some people who can relate to HaM don’t mind the woke lectures. I wonder before woke became the go to insult by some in the UK what was the insult used?

They look marginalised to me, I don't see these "friends" Beyonce, Obama anywhere near anything they're doing and in fact the opposite. They look isolated.

Even their zoom meetings and all the people I mentioned they met, doesn't look like marginalised to me.
What do you expect the Obamas to say about them, just mention them out of the blue. I'll tell you what though, Beyonce did actually namedrop when she included Harry on her Virgo tributes. Guess your DM din't tell you.

Elton is also close friends with William, what is your point exactly as he is one among many.

No they are wannabe celebs being paid to record themselves giving woke lectures about things they know nothing about. I see absolutely nothing successful about that

What's it to you? You're not funding them. So..you think they're not successful, that's your prerogative to think what you like.
P.s. using 'woke' as an insult really doesn't cut it 😂

zuluqueen Exactly. Do people really expect others to go around publicly declaring how amazing Meghan and Harry are? Who does that anyway unless they are being paid to? I mean occasionally a celebrity mentions another celebrity they think is amazing, but it doesn't happen that much. Doesn't make them isolated.
Meghan and Harry are making their own way in the world and not taking money from taxpayers. Of course, the way their speeches are worded will be too American for us in tone, but they are in America. It is what I would expect.

They're promoting their brand and trying to stay in the public eye / maintain a high profile, as this is what generates their income - Netflix deals, paid speeches, etc. and gives her a platform for a potential political career.

No they are wannabe celebs being paid to record themselves giving woke lectures about things they know nothing about. I see absolutely nothing successful about that.

This. They are following a script carefully written and which will have a wonderful screenplay 🤣

They will successfully make a lot of money as a result though, let's see how much of that is really going to charitable causes - although wonder how much will be left after that £11m house, staff, production employees, private jets and guzzling environmentally unfriendly 4x4s. Not to mention the Armani dresses!

Articles in Telegrah and Times going into detail with genuine and informed experts saying how ignorant and facile H&M's comments at the vax concert are. Unhelpful would be the polite description.

H&M are misinformation combined with endless attempts to shut down any challenge on their "truth" along with threats of litigation etc. They are not the "victims" the fans like to believe, they are only victims of their own vanity.

Glad to see the UN insist PR/Scobie corrects Reuters etc on who H&M met with at UN. Good to see some challenging of their "truth" finally.

Walking on to a stage at the concert as an artist about to perform and offering facile platitudes is one thing, but to turn up as "yourself" spouting ignorance and misinformation is bizarre.

@StartupRepair

It was the wrong season clothes that rang fake to me. It looked as if they wanted footage of themselves being important on New York streets with warm coats and clasping folders. Presumably to contrast with more summery footage they get in California. Whole visit looked like a photo shoot.

I noticed the folders and wondered if there was anything inside them?!

Did Harry and Meghan actually say anything false about vaccination? I thought they were just there to promote vaccination as a general good thing. I don't see why they need to be scientists to do that. Its at a level with celebrities visiting an African country for Comic Relief. They don't have to be experts to promote a message.

Lol at the Armani dresses dig.

For all the fanfare, about time they upgrade to electric cars instead of these 4x4 monstrous things - it would be a saving for the environment considering they carry along all those bodyguards etc. Then you can talk about each of us "making an impact on your community" and changing the world!!

Someone should set up a carbon counter for these and other celebrities raising the environmental flag.

The round trip jetting around, 4x4 pick ups on both ends for them and entourage, huge expensive wardrobe (who knows what happens with it after one use), etc - looks to me quite a waste. And to think Harry said he suffered from a form of "stage fright" having to smile etc in public 😱

You will find that the private jets do carbon offsetting as per Travelyst.

Stage fright ? First I hear that one.

Torygraph and the Times, reliable sources on H&M? 😂😂😂

You mean scientific evidence on vaccine storage and patents and development etc is worth nothing compared to Scobie and H&M making fools of themselves talking vapid nonsense (again). Makes sense. If Scobie hasn’t reported it then it won’t be true is obviously your motto 😀 oh dear.

Also relationships change as you get to know people and some that fell for the victimhood now can see it is little more complicated. Netflix deal might change too when they realise the only footage is candid camera level of smoke and mirrors of relevance.

Did Harry and Meghan actually say anything false about vaccination? they were very misinformed, anyone who follows the news could have told you that,

• they said that pharma companies don’t want to share the data , not true , it’s big question of quality production . Setting up labs and training takes months if not years.
• They said there should be an equal distribution for vaccines , this is something all preachy people like to say but don’t fully understand . It’s not that simple ,

For example Israel is experiencing a huge surge in cases , they need the third shot , but some poor countries , who has very low cases due to low population density in urban places don’t, sending extra vaccines with a very short expiration date is pointless , that’s why some African countries did not ask for extra vaccine donations. Rich countries are committed to donate , the delay was simply because the biggest manufactures (India) was battling its own crisis.

It was made to look that H&M and all these stars helped to raise $1b for vaccines , this couldn’t be further from the truth , it’s the rich countries who have donated the equivalent of $1b.

But how much was spent on these stars? Their security ? Rent of venue? Equipment ? Hotel stays? ? I bet millions, it’s all so pointless and only shows just how hypocritical these people are , again I’m saying all , not pointing fingers at H&M .

You will find that the private jets do carbon offsetting as per Travelyst.

Hmm. If Carbon offsetting was the answer then we probably wouldn’t have climate change issues. Friends of the Earth point out that it has only a limited effect for the good.

friendsoftheearth.uk/climate/does-carbon-offsetting-work

This is not a criticism unique to H&M, but saying it’s ok because the travel is being carbon offset doesn’t really work. If it is really necessary to take a private jet then so be it, but don’t say it’s ok because of carbon offsetting.

Who cares? As 'celebs' I would think, desperate to make even more money. Pity they can't demonstrate some class and keep to themselves. So much for wanting privacy. What a pair of twats.

Really? someone asking above if H&M said anything incorrect about vaccines surely even your average news consumer recognised the absolute rubbish? If didnt, then plenty of articles by scientists explaining why ... but apparently H&M PR is all we need for ‘truth’ 😀😆

So in other words you disagree with organisations like Global Citizen and Amnesty. Surely, it's through initiatives like these that the sharing moves forward.

www.science.org/news/2021/05/rich-countries-cornered-covid-19-vaccine-doses-four-strategies-right-scandalous

www.amnesty.org/en/latest/press-release/2021/05/an-average-of-7-in-10-across-g7-countries-think-their-governments-should-force-big-pharma-to-share-vaccine-know-how/

Well obviously H&M need security, hence the need for private jets.

Same papers are saying they had an entourage, so it was not the two of them on a private jet. Just more emphasis is made of the fact. NY and Cali are on the opposite sides of each other, there is even a time difference. They compressed several visits into one trip. This is a huge cross country trip. Much is made just to criticise them for the sake of it.

Yes Rubi I disagree,
Let’s give the data to some poor ill equipped countries with corrupt governments and see how it goes ? I bet zero production of the vaccines for years , but it will sure make so many celebs and politician profile glow .

Oh, ok so on top of that you are nilly willy accusing all these poor countries of corruption. That this is their fault because they are corrupt.