The "Royal Racist"

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The discussion is still rumbling on...
Over on the Daily Mail site there's yet another article about whether H&M will name names.
This I found was interestingly written as it only seems to mention one other family member...

Very interesting indeed! Had to dig a bit for the article and here it is for anyone wanting top read it: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9927115/Harry-Meghan-considered-naming-royal-racist-asked-Archies-skin-colour-book-claims.html

The DM are very good at saying things without saying things, examples being the recent Katie Price reports that police have apprehended a 32 year old male and then writing that her fiance is 32 years old in the next sentence. Also giving front page headlines to a seemingly "non story" about Kate falling out with her friend Rose.

It would make sense because H&M held back saying it would damage that person too much. There are very few members of the RF who have that much at stake. If it were Ann or a peripheral member, it would be bad PR for a few weeks and blow over. There's really one person who has most to lose.

Two people surely who have a lot to lose - Charles and William. Charles apparently was fond of Meghan (walked her down the aisle and nicknamed her tugsten) so I don’t think it was him.

If they name someone and that person categorically denies it, it is really a case of one person's word against another's, isn't it? It will be up to people to make up their own minds then, who to believe.

I didn't watch the interview with Oprah, but I understand that some outlandish stuff (e.g having a private ceremony before the ceremony at Windsor) was disproven.

If they name names, the person concerned could a) deny it, and b) sue for libel?
This way the RF are all tarred, and speculation continues.
Maybe whoever it was supposed to be, does not actually realise it was him/her.
Apparently the remarks (whatever they were) were said to Harry before Meghan was pregnant, and repeated by Harry to Meghan when she was a) pregnant with Archie and b) suicidal.

Surely only two members of the RF have a reputation for being "outspoken", the DofE and Princess Ann. As most Americans don't seem to have heard of Ann they assume it must be Charles or William. If H&M named Ann it would be a bit of a damp squib - "who's she??"

Harry seemed quite sheepish when Megan announced it on Oprah. I don't think he realised when he told Megan what the impact would be and it's blown up without him intending it to.

I don’t understand why they don’t name the alleged racist instead of being coy .
By not naming the person the finger of suspicion is pointed at everyone other than HM and PP .

I think the threat to leak it is just that it’s a threat to whomever it is, they are basically blackmailing them

I suspect it was either Charles or Andrew but possibly not intended as racist, a stupid question asked about future babies skin colour at the start of a relationship.

Howver I think right now they are basically trying to blackmail someone.

During the OW interview, H and M seemed to give different versions so wouldn’t it be better for everyone to clarify what was said and by whom ?
Of course it may emerge in a future book .

They didn’t seem to give different versions. They did give different versions, totally different. One said it was at the start of rhe relationship before it was serious someone commented on how dark would any babies skin be, the other said it was said several times when she was actually pregnant. Two very different versions.

They aren’t trying to clear that up. They just want to threaten someone.

@Oldbutstillgotit

I don’t understand why they don’t name the alleged racist instead of being coy . By not naming the person the finger of suspicion is pointed at everyone other than HM and PP .

A cynic may wonder if that's the whole point.

I’m of the opinion that the only ref to color was someone saying they wondered who the baby would take after.

None of my many grandchildren have the same coloring - even the siblings. They are all very different and waiting for a baby to be born is very exciting as we never know what variations on a theme they’ll be.

You are right @ Bluntness100 there was no need for me to include the word seemed.
I hadn’t thought about possible blackmail so that’s food for thought .

I agree with @Tealwarrior, when new babies are expected it’s normal to discuss who they’ll look like and color of eyes, hair, and skin tone.
And reminding H&M that tabloids and media will be additionally interested due to skin coloring is not being racist.
Knowing how brutal the media can be I think the person pointed this out was being factual.

@Oldbutstillgotit

You are right @ Bluntness100 there was no need for me to include the word seemed. I hadn’t thought about possible blackmail so that’s food for thought .

Sorry if it came across arsey it wasn’t meant like that. 💐

It’s probably Princess Alexandra as hasn’t she been photographed wearing racist jewellery to troll Meghan at a luncheon?
www.harpersbazaar.com/celebrity/latest/a14481097/princess-michael-of-kent-racist-brooch/

*Princess Michael. Not sure why I wrote Alexandra in there.

Bluntness100

Oldbutstillgotit
You are right @ Bluntness100 there was no need for me to include the word seemed.
I hadn’t thought about possible blackmail so that’s food for thought .
Sorry if it came across arsey it wasn’t meant like that. 💐

Not at all ! I try to pick my words carefully on these threads as I have been jumped on by H and M defenders but should have been more specific.

@PlanDeRaccordement

*Princess Michael. Not sure why I wrote Alexandra in there.

I doubt it was her for the simple reason they kind of live in the wilderness as members of the RF and I doubt their paths crossed very much, if at all, with Harry and Meghan.

I suspect it was a very close member of the family who said nothing more than families up and down the country say when a baby whose parents have very different skin tones and features is on the way.

Why won’t they say who it was? They couldn’t. As people would see it for what it was as well as see them for what they are.

@AppleBlueBerryPie

Very interesting indeed! Had to dig a bit for the article and here it is for anyone wanting top read it: www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9927115/Harry-Meghan-considered-naming-royal-racist-asked-Archies-skin-colour-book-claims.html

The DM are very good at saying things without saying things, examples being the recent Katie Price reports that police have apprehended a 32 year old male and then writing that her fiance is 32 years old in the next sentence. Also giving front page headlines to a seemingly "non story" about Kate falling out with her friend Rose.

It would make sense because H&M held back saying it would damage that person too much. There are very few members of the RF who have that much at stake. If it were Ann or a peripheral member, it would be bad PR for a few weeks and blow over. There's really one person who has most to lose.

Ah yes indeed, and the DM are focusing on William's reaction aren't they?

They seem to be going that direction.

Would Charles or William (if it is them) really sue their son/brother ? They are the ones with the most to lose if it is them.
The only other royal that Americans probably know (other than HM and PP) is the Duchess of Cambridge who was basically summarised as the person who made M cry but a "good person" so unlikely

I refuse to look at DM anymore, I don't care how titilating you think the click bait is. Does it still have a section called Femail, titled in pink where anything flippant and trivial is headlined?

It’s all about context, in what context was the comment made, as has been said on other threads on this subject, by those who are having mixed race children, that people have simply asked who do you think the child will take after

As we know whatever H and M have claimed they have repeatedly been proven wrong

Time both of them shut up and got in with the private life they say they want ( but actually dont)

@AppleBlueBerryPie Very good point - I agree with your analysis.

Prince Charles comes off worst in the app rah interview so I'd expect his reaction to be mentioned rather than William's.

I don't think truth seems that important to either of them.