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Charles financially supported the Sussexes until summer 2020

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SnottyLottie · 24/06/2021 07:47

news.sky.com/story/duke-and-charles-paid-substantial-sum-to-harry-and-meghan-after-megxit-but-couple-paid-back-rent-for-frogmore-cottage-12340192

Prince Harry revealed in his Oprah interview that the Sussexes stopped receiving money from the royal family in the first quarter of 2020. However, newly published accounts reveal that Prince Charles continued to financially support the Sussexes until summer 2020.

I wonder if this is going to be a case of their truth or incorrect wording on Harry’s behalf. Interesting!

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SallyLockheart · 24/06/2021 19:49

Rousette. Good rummaging there. searching financial report only brought up earlier years. not well referenced within the website - poor

Roussette · 24/06/2021 19:55

I'm good at rummaging 🤣

SallyLockheart · 24/06/2021 20:00

I like a good rummage,too. CauliflowerCheese30 - sorry, missed your link to the full accounts statement earlier upthread.

however, i am attaching the link to the travel costs page and I have no idea where mummy got the figure of £700k for private jets/helicopters for W&K as this summary covers all the royals for the year. Only journeys costing over £15k are listed out, so it is unknow who the less than £15k journeys relate to but it is a big leap of imagination to say they are all W&K's

www.royal.uk/sites/default/files/sovereign_grant_report_2020-2021_-_royal_travel_appendix.pdf

Roussette · 24/06/2021 20:04

Gosh. Wall to wall programmes on the Royals tonight.

Kensington Palace, behind closed doors
and
Diana, an hour long prog

smilesy · 24/06/2021 20:06

@Roussette I just flagged that up on another thread. There are 3 running at the moment, all covering very similar topics. It’s most confusing 😂

smilesy · 24/06/2021 20:06

3 threads that is

myrtleWilson · 24/06/2021 20:07

How does it work in terms of Royal trips - I know charities etc will put in a request for Royal attendance and many trips come about at the request of the Government. - the trip to Athens by the PC and Camilla being a recent example.

How much say does the RF in going on these trips - obviously if there are very real logistical issues - illness etc presumably the RF can say "No can do Boris with HMQ going to Australia but we can offer up Sophie" but realistically can the RF give a flat no?

I suppose I'm wondering how much of their travel expenses are their choice (now there may be a choice with regards to mode of travel)

Coolandclamy · 24/06/2021 20:10

Incredible how the British media can lead gullible people astray. The timelines match up. In the UK, the first quarter of a financial year ends in June so the accounts will show period up to June.

Stop allowing yourselves to be fooled by the media. Ask yourself why the media insist on twisting stories. What do you have to gain from this? Today Harry and Meghan, tomorrow who or what?

Enjoy the media twisting stories but remember that behaviour is not good for any of us. Eventually they will move on from H&M and feed us another set of ours about something or someone.

Roussette · 24/06/2021 20:10

smilesy yes and I just answered 😂

smilesy · 24/06/2021 20:13

@myrtleWilson I remember seeing a programme about a day in the working life of the Princess Royal and she used a helicopter, but she was flitting about all over the place and it really seemed to be the only practical way to to get everywhere she needed to be.

JustLyra · 24/06/2021 20:20

@Roussette

"The Royal Family: British public paid Royal Family £85.9 million this year, according to accounts Taxpayers paid £18.1 million more than last year"

Taken from an Express article.

"The British public reportedly paid the Royal Family £85.9 million in taxes during to 2020-2021 tax year, according to accounts.

Accounts for the Sovereign Grant show the monarchy cost the taxpayer £87.5 million during 2020/21 – an increase of £18.1 million on the previous financial year"

Is that the agreed increase for the Buckingham palace works or above that?

(And between that and the Houses of Parliament when are the financiers of the country going to learn that little and often expenses often work out considerably cheaper than ignoring stuff til buildings are dangerous?!)

Wanttocry · 24/06/2021 20:21

@myrtleWilson

How does it work in terms of Royal trips - I know charities etc will put in a request for Royal attendance and many trips come about at the request of the Government. - the trip to Athens by the PC and Camilla being a recent example.

How much say does the RF in going on these trips - obviously if there are very real logistical issues - illness etc presumably the RF can say "No can do Boris with HMQ going to Australia but we can offer up Sophie" but realistically can the RF give a flat no?

I suppose I'm wondering how much of their travel expenses are their choice (now there may be a choice with regards to mode of travel)

No, I don’t think they can really give a flat out no to a request from government to either visit somewhere or to host a foreign leader. But I guess there may be a bit of back and forth over who goes/when/how long etc.
BasiliskStare · 24/06/2021 20:31

I agree - things will move on. I don't care about the exact timings of filing accounts - I just instinctively react against a man in his mid thirties who has millions in the bank and chose to move away from the RF whinging about his father not paying for him and having to rely rely on his inherited mother's millions.

They had options - either take the house you were given and do the charities / causes you care about , or go and live a quiet life you can afford in comfort in which case - who cares, or do what you are doing but don't expect the British taxpayer to pay for you.
If there is another option I am sure someone will tell me

If they carry on I am sure they will either be chip paper a few years down the line or they will end up like Fergie. Or they will end up being preternaturally talented producers - not sure I would take a bet at the moment , But I do wish a young family well.

CathyorClaire · 24/06/2021 20:54

I think the whinging is related to reality in the shape of security and monster mansion costs kicking in.

As PP said he's never had to think about money before. Not even a bus fare to the gastropub or an eye on the last bus back.

He has more than enough in the bank to live in considerable style and in the privacy he allegedly craves but his inflated sense of self-importance and his presumably inherited reluctance to dip into his own immeasurably deep pockets mean he just can't see it.

smilesy · 24/06/2021 21:00

I do wonder why, if they were aware that security and lifestyle etc were going to be expensive, they bought quite such an enormous house. I don’t think four of them need so many bedrooms and bathrooms, do they?

Frezia · 24/06/2021 21:01

One thing I don't understand. Weren't they still one foot in the royal family throughout 2020 with that one year review thing? And weren't they performing some of their royal duties (keeping in touch with their patronages)? So why wouldn't they expect some sort of financing by the royal family? What counts as work for a royal is ridiculous as it is, but it's not like the rest of them were doing much more. If Charles decided to cut them off during that period, I can see how they might have felt hard done by.

SallyLockheart · 24/06/2021 21:06

They stopped being working royals on 31/3/20. There was then in theory a 12 months review period when they did not represent the Crown at all - ie no royal duties at all - and the review was actually done in February 2021 - just before the Opray interview.

smilesy · 24/06/2021 21:06

No I don’t think that keeping up with some of the patronages counts Frezia because they decided to continue supporting those in a private capacity anyway. Nothing was done on behalf of the RF.

CauliflowerCheese30 · 24/06/2021 21:10

They stopped being working royals on March the 31st, they announced they were leaving in January.

Cacacoisfarraige · 24/06/2021 21:13

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CauliflowerCheese30 · 24/06/2021 21:17

This is only my opinion of course, but I think they knew all along they'd not be getting security if they left, that's why they wanted the half in half out, they thought they'd get security while also doing their own thing, if that makes sense, and like I said, it's only my opinion

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Frezia · 24/06/2021 21:17

But they weren't officially stripped off their royal patronages until this year. So they were still acting in their previous capacity. Eg. in July 2020 they "took part in an online discussion about equality in their roles as president and vice president of The Queen’s Commonwealth Trust".
What's the difference to them doing it the year before? They performed the same duties in the positions they were appointed to by the queen.

CauliflowerCheese30 · 24/06/2021 21:22

@Cacacoisfarraige

A quick google shows you’d need to earn 50m per year to afford an Oprah light lifestyle.

That’s a large amount of money.

50 mill would set all of us up for life, and our families.
SallyLockheart · 24/06/2021 21:24

@CauliflowerCheese30

This is only my opinion of course, but I think they knew all along they'd not be getting security if they left, that's why they wanted the half in half out, they thought they'd get security while also doing their own thing, if that makes sense, and like I said, it's only my opinion
agree. they always wanted to just do the high profile stuff and keep all the perks AND earn lots of dosh by trading on the RF connection.