Charles financially supported the Sussexes until summer 2020

[SnottyLottie]

news.sky.com/story/duke-and-charles-paid-substantial-sum-to-harry-and-meghan-after-megxit-but-couple-paid-back-rent-for-frogmore-cottage-12340192

Prince Harry revealed in his Oprah interview that the Sussexes stopped receiving money from the royal family in the first quarter of 2020. However, newly published accounts reveal that Prince Charles continued to financially support the Sussexes until summer 2020.

I wonder if this is going to be a case of their truth or incorrect wording on Harry’s behalf. Interesting!

@Frezia. According to the accounts released today, they were still funded until July 2020. I’m also not sure that the Queen would have seen that particular video call as supporting her anyway as wasn’t that when Harry confused the Commonwealth with Empire 🤷‍♀️

Well if we're going by gaffes, I'm sure almost every royal has not represented the queen at an engagement one time or the other.

They continued to engage with they royally appointed charities past July. There was no word from the palace that they were stripped off their patron positions until this year. I don't know what makes people think they were doing this in private capacity - because they were also doing their own stuff? That's what they said they'd be doing anyway early in the year. If the Queen or Charles were worried they were misusing royal appointments, wouldn't they have removed them sooner? They were swift to shut down the finances anyway.

@mummy194
"Did you feel the same way when William dressed us as a Zulu and told someone, don't worry we won't be eating crocodile or anything. He then told his friends they can be 'savage zulus' and people can come black face to his party."

What is the source of this information? You appear to be quoting Prince William, but there's nothing I can find online to back up these claims.

Your response appears to be an attempted deflection from the statement that Harry dressed as a nazi. What we know:
-Prince Harry was photographed dressed as a nazi.
-Prince Harry was recorded using a racial slur against a colleague. He was also recorded using the racist expression, "fuck me, you look like a raghead".
-Black comedian Stephen K Amos stated that Prince Harry said, "hello you don't sound like a black chap" upon meeting him, leaving him wondering how he was supposed to sound.

Sources for each of your claims (quoted above) about Prince William should be provided given how serious racist behaviour is.

I don't really care that much about the timelines. It was churlish of Harry to complain about being cut off without acknowledging and thanking his father for funding him for all those years. But, it's no shock that members of the Royal Family are spoilt and entitled.

I bet the tabloids are going crazy that they don't know where Harry is at the moment. So I give him extra points for that!

Oh, darn! He was spotted.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9723825/Harry-chauffeured-LAX-fly-London-unveiling-statue-mother-Diana.html

Basing on: ongoing death threats and a real life racist nazi plot to kill them (which involved trial and conviction).

Ah ok, in that case I'm gonna go with the Met are better placed than you to assess credible threats.

(The fact that there was a plot to kill someone doesn't necessarily make it a danger to them. If you are not in this line of work, this is what the Met expertise can judge better than you.)

@GlencoraP For a few years MM has reminded me of Matilda:

"Matilda told such Dreadful Lies,
It made one Gasp and Stretch one's Eyes;"
And Matilda came to a sad end.

I love Hilaire Belloc's "Cautionary tales."

@Frezia

Well if we're going by gaffes, I'm sure almost every royal has not represented the queen at an engagement one time or the other.

They continued to engage with they royally appointed charities past July. There was no word from the palace that they were stripped off their patron positions until this year. I don't know what makes people think they were doing this in private capacity - because they were also doing their own stuff? That's what they said they'd be doing anyway early in the year. If the Queen or Charles were worried they were misusing royal appointments, wouldn't they have removed them sooner? They were swift to shut down the finances anyway.

This is correct @Frezia

Also, the reports are made in such a way that you cannot tell if the cut off was in July or beginning of April. So most likely the cut off happened in April - which it seems was around the time H&M had to scramble to go to the US.

I have just been looking to find out what other royal patronages HaM had and I found the article linked below. Harry had four and Meghan had three. They did no “ work” with the others after they left in March 2020 as far as I can tell. It was widely noted that M did not offer any public support to the National Theatre during the pandemic, for example. The other patronages are ones they decided to retain in a personal capacity.

www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/harry-meghan-stripped-royal-patronages-what-was-lost-b920508.html

I like Hilaire Belloc too. I wonder if such bloodthirsty tales are allowed now?!

Agree that H&M would never have been content with a paltry £20million or so. To keep up with the Oprahs, Clooneys, Obamas of this world you need waaaay more than that. If they want private jets, multiple homes and world stage presence they’ll need to keep mining that royal tittle tattle seam.

I can't remember all of them offhand, but definitely work with Commonwealth,Airforce, I believe Grenfell also falls under the palace. There were definitely several that said they were in touch in them and published the zoom calls on their websites and SM.

Perhaps, because the DM did not report them since they are positive about H&M, or people were blinded by the ' they are seeking attention' angle.

It's not even clear how they are being paid for talking about the RF. Oprah and Dax Shepperd did not pay. The Apple documentary was started over 2yrs ago while they were in the RF.

'Also, the reports are made in such a way that you cannot tell if the cut off was in July or beginning of April. So most likely the cut off happened in April '

Tbh it doesn't matter when their financial support ended, whether it was the 'first quarter of last year' as he said in the chatshow which we all took to mean Jan when they left, or if he was inexplicably referring to the first quarter of the financial year.

The fact is they weren't cut off. They were given a massive lump sum to support them until they were financially independent.

Perhaps, the transitional year should not have been done. That way they would have known no to pay for Frogmore lump some at once and would put all their energy on just searching for a job/contract immediately and to top it find their security immediately.

The palace even made a thing about how the transitional year is ending this year.

The fact that there was a plot to kill someone doesn't necessarily make it a danger to them

This. I could decide I am going to blow up the Houses of Parliament, and start trying to make gunpowder in my garden shed. That doesn't mean I have any credible chance of succeeding. But at some point my actions with the intent to commit a crime become criminal and I can be prosecuted - even if I don't have access to the cellars of Parliament in early November...

@Allington

The fact that there was a plot to kill someone doesn't necessarily make it a danger to them

This. I could decide I am going to blow up the Houses of Parliament, and start trying to make gunpowder in my garden shed. That doesn't mean I have any credible chance of succeeding. But at some point my actions with the intent to commit a crime become criminal and I can be prosecuted - even if I don't have access to the cellars of Parliament in early November...

Is this some kind of a joke !

The men who plotted against H&M and were convicted were serious Neo-Nazis. One was the leader of Sonnenkrieg Division, and the other was the son of the leader of of the Neo nazi group for the UK. He was found with terrorist weapons and materials in his room.

These groups converge online to encourage and organise each other for killings, including the mass killings in Norway and New Zealand.

Perhaps, the transitional year should not have been done. That way they would have known no to pay for Frogmore lump some at once and would put all their energy on just searching for a job/contract immediately and to top it find their security immediately.

I’m sorry but If you have to tell two grown adults how to budget it a bit sad. The amount they paid for Frogmore would not have touched the sides of the amount they need for security anyway. And by the time they paid for Frogmore, they already knew they had to pay for security. They only paid for Frogmore once they had made the Netflix deal anyway if I remember correctly.

@Mummy194

It's not even clear how they are being paid for talking about the RF. Oprah and Dax Shepperd did not pay. The Apple documentary was started over 2yrs ago while they were in the RF.

Harry was paid as an executive producer, who knows how much?

Where did you hear that he was paid? or how much?

@mummy194 I posted last night after reading your shocking post about racism by Prince William but it seems you haven't seen it yet.

Would be great if you could clear it up, particularly after Prince William saying, 'we are not a racist family'.

What is the evidence he dressed as a Zulu?
What is the evidence for the crocodile comment?
What is the evidence he encouraged people to do black face?

Do you seriously believe he did it for free? Not that he probably did anything.

Its all sleight of hand. Its how it works. I don't actually have a problem with them getting paid - just be honest about it.

I must have linked about 5 articles about William's party before. Its all right here on MN.

Strange how posters are quick on the mark with finding disparaging articles about H&M, but never know how to work google if it's about William.

@MarthaJonesPhone

Do you seriously believe he did it for free? Not that he probably did anything.

Its all sleight of hand. Its how it works. I don't actually have a problem with them getting paid - just be honest about it.

Erm because it was part of the MH project.

Just as I don't believe other royals don't get paid for programmes they do for a certain cause.

Actually, you linked some articles in the DM to PW’s out of Africa party having said William himself had “blacked up” and then when none of them showed any of the guests had done that despite your statement “you will be able to access clear blackface pictures in the DM”.

When it transpired that there weren’t any such photos, even on YOUR link, you said the DM “must have taken them down” and that they would be available on the Internet. I can’t find any photos of this “on the Internet”. You must have them in your history I guess?

Lots of pictures of Prince Harry in his Nazi uniform though. Lots. And we know there were recordings of his racist slurs.

@mummy194

I know how to work Google which is why I asked you directly. You've quoted Prince William saying some shocking things that Google simply doesn't back up. It's perfectly reasonable for me to ask for the source(s).