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Charles financially supported the Sussexes until summer 2020

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SnottyLottie · 24/06/2021 07:47

news.sky.com/story/duke-and-charles-paid-substantial-sum-to-harry-and-meghan-after-megxit-but-couple-paid-back-rent-for-frogmore-cottage-12340192

Prince Harry revealed in his Oprah interview that the Sussexes stopped receiving money from the royal family in the first quarter of 2020. However, newly published accounts reveal that Prince Charles continued to financially support the Sussexes until summer 2020.

I wonder if this is going to be a case of their truth or incorrect wording on Harry’s behalf. Interesting!

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Oldbutstillgotit · 11/07/2021 19:07

I think most of H and M’s money was from PC.

I am sure I read that parts of Bagshot Park such as the stables are rented out .

Skiptheheartsandflowers · 11/07/2021 19:19

I wonder too if Louise and James will be given their own sections of Bagshot to live in when older, the way Anne has done with her kids. The Tindall s and the Philipses (who are now two households themselves after separating) all live on Gatcombe Park.

None of that changes the fact that 120 rooms is a sizeable property, of course. Edward and Sophie are working full time for the Royals, though, and look set to continue to do so for a couple of decades more. They have not publicly complained about their lot. They have what they have as one of the incredible perks of the job. Many people don't like that whole system and that is their view and their valid opinion.

The reason people feel the Sussexes have a house that seems excessive Is because they've talked about being 'cut off' and 'having' to make deals with Netflix and the like, as if that created financial constraints for them. It's not then a matter of being an accounting genius to wonder why they didn't buy a smaller, less expensive house - since they were free to choose their own now - and lessen some of those pressures. They are not still in the job and therefore don't get the same extravagant perks, paid for by HM.W

Coronateachingagain · 11/07/2021 22:07

@Skiptheheartsandflowers I agree. This is the line of questioning that Oprah did not take ."You say you were cut off and had to use what you mum left you but you were still able to buy an £11m house" and many other questions along those lines.

ElvishFun · 12/07/2021 08:03

All of the royal funding really ought to be open to public scrutiny. It is only since the H and M debacle that I have really considered what lives of absolutely obscene wealth the Royals lead, for doing very little in return.

Mummy194 · 12/07/2021 08:15

The reason people feel the Sussexes have a house that seems excessive Is because they've talked about being 'cut off' and 'having' to make deals with Netflix and the like, as if that created financial constraints for them. It's not then a matter of being an accounting genius to wonder why they didn't buy a smaller, less expensive house - since they were free to choose their own now - and lessen some of those pressures.

H&M were cut off while still in Canada. So the deals and the house have nothing to do with it.

ElvishFun · 12/07/2021 08:20

All the more reason to cut their cloth then.

Roussette · 12/07/2021 08:25

Well... it's up to them isn't it?

We don't own them, they are now supporting themselves, they can buy whatever house they want! Not sure why it's anyone's business to be honest, it doesn't affect anyone

Coronateachingagain · 12/07/2021 09:20

Except it is a bit disingenuous to complain your family cut you off but still able to afford an £11m house and such a lifestyle. The sad thing is I think Harry can't see the point, yet the millions of normal people with normal lives that have to work hard to even feed their children can.

Skiptheheartsandflowers · 12/07/2021 09:22

@Mummy194

The reason people feel the Sussexes have a house that seems excessive Is because they've talked about being 'cut off' and 'having' to make deals with Netflix and the like, as if that created financial constraints for them. It's not then a matter of being an accounting genius to wonder why they didn't buy a smaller, less expensive house - since they were free to choose their own now - and lessen some of those pressures.

H&M were cut off while still in Canada. So the deals and the house have nothing to do with it.

Not really following this. Harry said they were cut off at the end of the first quarter of 2020 - I think. But definitely in 2020. How is that when they were still in Canada?

The deals and the house have nothing to do with it Nothing to do with what?

Mummy194 · 12/07/2021 10:11

They were told they are cut off while in Canada, that is the main reason they had to go to Tyler Perry's house and get security.

So them then picking themselves up afterwards and the price of their deals and house, has nothing to do with anything.

It's like me telling you I was fired from a job back in 2020. The fact that I got another job later on and brought a house has nothing to do with me being fired in my previous job. Why are you linking those two separate events?

Skiptheheartsandflowers · 12/07/2021 10:51

They were told they are cut off while in Canada

They returned from Canada in early January and then made the announcement they were 'stepping back'. Please post a link to the time machine you're using to make this statement.

Skiptheheartsandflowers · 12/07/2021 10:59

them then picking themselves up afterwards and the price of their deals and house, has nothing to do with anything

Except that Harry said different in the Oprah interview:

"The Duke of Sussex said he was completely reliant on money left by his late mother, Princess Diana, after he was "cut off financially" when he stepped back from royal duties.

He said he and Meghan "genuinely hadn't thought" about cutting streaming deals, but added: "And look, from my perspective, all I needed was enough money to be able to pay for security to keep my family safe."

From www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/harry-meghan-made-spotify-netflix-23626352
As just one article reporting this

Mummy194 · 12/07/2021 12:11

What has January got to do with anything. H&M had the meeting of stepping down in January, after being forced to reveal this as Dan Wotton was making it headlines on that day. They were told they would have a one year review. At some point their money was cut off within that one year. They then moved to US when they were told they are being cut off while at the same time their home was leaked to the press.

They had to scramble and go to Tyler Perry's house with security and made their deals and bought their house after. What are you arguing here, even your article does not dispute anything.

smilesy · 12/07/2021 12:25

I’ve never really understood why they had to go to Perry’s when their home details were leaked if everyone then knew where they were afterwards and where they are now. Did they really intend to stay in Canada?

Mummy194 · 12/07/2021 12:28

Didn't they say Perry provided security for them?

It took a while for the revelation that they were at his house, as I recall, they had some zoom calls from there and everyone thought they were still in Canada. But they are a couple where the media makes it their business to know where they are and are doing, so sooner or later it would happen.

Coronateachingagain · 12/07/2021 23:11

@Mummy194

They were told they are cut off while in Canada, that is the main reason they had to go to Tyler Perry's house and get security.

So them then picking themselves up afterwards and the price of their deals and house, has nothing to do with anything.

It's like me telling you I was fired from a job back in 2020. The fact that I got another job later on and brought a house has nothing to do with me being fired in my previous job. Why are you linking those two separate events?

And where did you get that confirmation of when they were told from? Oh poor them. They had to borrow that horrendous huge house and had to obviously get big security for the big house too, together with lots of staff and so on. Who are they kidding. To the point, to the families that they are cut off from being able to feed their children, this is really happening in a different world. Talk about "acts of compassion"!!
Coronateachingagain · 12/07/2021 23:12

@smilesy

I’ve never really understood why they had to go to Perry’s when their home details were leaked if everyone then knew where they were afterwards and where they are now. Did they really intend to stay in Canada?
They were shopping for a £10m+ house.
Coronateachingagain · 12/07/2021 23:14

So it seems, they were "cut off" right before they started shopping for the £10m+ house. Enough said

PurpleOkapi · 12/07/2021 23:49

They moved to the US in March 2020. Even if we accept the very questionable explanation that Harry meant they were cut off in/after the first accounting quarter under the British system, those dates don't match the assertion that they were cut off while in Canada.

Oldbutstillgotit · 13/07/2021 08:14

I think that “ cut off” is a bit of a dramatic statement having received millions from PC and having millions in the bank due to inheritances !
Did they seriously think they would still be financially supported by the RF ?

Mummy194 · 13/07/2021 08:23

Has he been receiving millions? Really? It would be interesting to know exactly how much he has been getting, because the money gets bundled up on the accounts. You can't even tell what is for work, for personal use, for maintenance etc. That applies to both H & W.

Oldbutstillgotit · 13/07/2021 08:26

I said “ having received “ , I didn’t say he still was .
Annual accounts show that both W and H received several million each year from PC so not exactly living in poverty !

Oldbutstillgotit · 13/07/2021 08:28

They also received money from the Sovereign Grant ( W still does) and my understanding is that is more accountable .

Coronateachingagain · 13/07/2021 13:08

@Mummy194

Has he been receiving millions? Really? It would be interesting to know exactly how much he has been getting, because the money gets bundled up on the accounts. You can't even tell what is for work, for personal use, for maintenance etc. That applies to both H & W.
Besides the point. Not interested really on how much he received / has been receiving , in any case the number is far more than most people would ever dream of, not to be considered in dire need, or "cut off" unduly from Daddy's estate.
ohforarainyday · 13/07/2021 22:51

Did they seriously think they would still be financially supported by the RF ?

I don't see any indication they expected to still be supported (given that Meghan is a workaholic, and Harry's clearly proven himself adept at landing big money deals, they clearly were both willing to roll their sleeves up and start earning money). But I don't see anything wrong with an extremely wealthy posh bloke from a family where it's common to not work, and where your own father and brother were/will be financially supported by their family for their entire lives, and expect a similar level of financial support from their own family.

It's very convenient for people to pretend that Harry is nothing more than an employee of a company called BRF, but this is literally Harry's DAD we're talking about.

Genuinely, is there a single poster here who would honestly say if their child was being racially abused and potentially subject to death threats from terrorists, and your family were literally billionaires - and you came from a family where it's the norm to be financially supported your whole life - that you'd have no expectation at all of your super-wealthy dad giving you a bit of money to keep his own grandchild safe?

FYI another white supremacist terrorist was convicted in court this week, he was found with both a bomb-making instructions, and a "manifesto" which contained racist cartoons of Archie.