Harry’s podcast

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Carrying on the discussion about Harry’s podcast.

'The Thomas Markle stuff is relevant because if Harry has the right to discuss private family matters without the consent of those involved, so too do Thomas and Samantha Markle. Maybe they need to share this because of the impact Meghan had on their mental health? If it's about 'mental health' then 'sharing' is a good thing, isn't it?'

Yes and let's hope one day some sycophant interviewer in the US will actually put this to them instead of melodramatic 'were you silent or were you silenced' rubbish.

It's unsettling seeing him unravel so publicly yet still blaming others. If anything should happen between him and M he will be utterly lost in the huge hole he has dug himself.

Meghan's father's day message to Thomas in 2016 -

“Happy Father’s Day, daddy, I’m still your buckaroo, and to this day your hugs are still the very best in the whole wide world. Thanks for my work ethic, my love of Busby Berkeley films & club sandwiches, for teaching me the importance of handwritten thank you notes, and for giving me that signature Markle nose. I love you xo — Bean.”

Sad.

I read the whole transcript to said podcast and whilst it did not strike me as the most meaningful contribution to Mental Health Awareness Week nor was it centred around slagging off his family - he mentioned in one sentence in the whole thing that pain and parenting styles can be passed down from one generation to the next and trying to avoid that - which is true.

JaniieJones

That's exactly what I think.

They have to realise that there are consequences to our actions. And be prepared to either stand by what you say or take the flack/apologise if you get it wrong.

Small children will run away when you yell ‘stop’ as they are smashing up their siblings toy. They don’t think ‘hang on, I run off... then what happens’? Ditto petty criminals (don’t consider the consequences).

@EmphaticPeriod

I read the whole transcript to said podcast and whilst it did not strike me as the most meaningful contribution to Mental Health Awareness Week nor was it centred around slagging off his family - he mentioned in one sentence in the whole thing that pain and parenting styles can be passed down from one generation to the next and trying to avoid that - which is true.

Thank you, I hadn’t heard the podcast.

I haven't listened to the podcast. But if as EmphaticPeriod describes this comes down to a single sentence about pain and parenting styles being handed down through generations then I can't see what all the fuss is about. Charles definitely made similar comments years ago.

@ajandjjmum

Meghan's father's day message to Thomas in 2016 -

“Happy Father’s Day, daddy, I’m still your buckaroo, and to this day your hugs are still the very best in the whole wide world. Thanks for my work ethic, my love of Busby Berkeley films & club sandwiches, for teaching me the importance of handwritten thank you notes, and for giving me that signature Markle nose. I love you xo — Bean.”

Sad.

2016?? Bloody hell that unravelled quickly. The wedding was only two years later!

I used to love "In the Psychiatrist's Chair" with Anthony Clare.
I particularly enjoyed this episode. At around 24 minutes in he talks about going to a psychiatrist, probably prompted by his wife due to anger issues and being neurotic and quick to take offence....and tells how he saw the man three times a week for nine years during which time he'd written about 50 books and twenty screenplays among other work. He called the psychiatrist about something a few years later and the psychiatrist said "oh yes, I remember you, you were the guy with writer's block"!!
I think there are quite a few therapists like that.

Harry would benefit from listening to this episode. There are parallels.

I highly recommend at least listening to the short exchange around 24 minutes in.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/b04cfft6

From The Times today.

@Roussette

I'm curious as to why they couldn't ask for this to happen

Why? Because of the flack they're getting on here?

Have you asked why SarahF hasn't asked for hers to be removed?

Why should they???? Can you answer me that, given you think they should. Whilst others keep their titles.

Because they repeatedly state that they dislike the royal family, it's archaic rules and don't want to be part of it. So don't be! They have the option to not be part of it, by handing back their titles and making it on their own. People would have far more respect for them if they did that. However, they know they are nothing without their titles and so they won't do it.

From The Telegraph. Apparently there is also disappointment about the foul language in the expletive strewn interview.

Thanks for taking one for the team Roussette and listening - I'll give it a swerve, but having read some of the articles I think I am still entitled to comment. No doubt you can count the expletives to justify or dispute the Telegraph comment.

Prince Harry’s broadside leaves senior royals bemused over his ‘woeful lack of compassion' https://www.telegraph.co.uk/royal-family/2021/05/14/prince-harrys-broadside-leaves-senior-royals-bemused-woeful/?WT.mcid=tmgliveappiosshare_AxJ0qtgkRXTL

@ChiefInspectorParker

He feels grievously wronged and, in his eyes, is sticking up for himself. I suppose that's the reason for the comment about princesses - it actually matters to him that his family are important royals.

For me, bothering about royal status is shallow, so I won't be feeling sorry for Harry. Those reasons above are why I detest what he's doing, not because I don't feel for him as a fellow ' passenger on the way to the grave' as Dickens would have said.

Well said Diverseopinions.

Despite the talk about compassion, neither Harry nor Meghan strikes me as having much empathy or emotional intelligence.

I very agree with Chief’s summing up here. They both come across as foot stamping, spoilt people, used to getting their own way and not having to consider the feelings of others in the process.

@LittleBearPad that Times cartoon sums it up perfectly

It's not stalking them when it's on the news.

This is a Harry and Meghan bashing thread. Nothing else expected from the British public that’s why their views have little credibility outside the UK. The view is that the UK hates them so what else can be expected in any discussion other than a skewed view on anything they do? The UK is in its own echo chamber about these two.

As for them not being popular outside of the UK, you must be joking right? That’s how bad the hatred is when reality cannot even be acknowledged.

The royal family has for many years just been a curiosity and a source of amusement and tourist fascination. There is nothing about these people that people abroad wish to aspire to - not their physical prowess, nor their looks, not their intellect and definitely not the family values. They are a curious remnant of days gone by. There are better role models and things to aspire to.

Harry and Meghan would have been good for the image of the UK. The British press messed up big time. Britain looks like little England and the UK has replaced the US as the foremost racist country. That is a shame because it is so not true but that is what the rabid hatred of these two people have translated into for those on the outside looking in.

Anyway this is a Harry and Meghan basing thread so I don’t belong here. I’ll leave this echo chamber. I like good vibes and I don’t care to bash two people I don’t know anything thing about. All I can do is wish them well. I have enough to do and think about in my life than to pour hatred out about them or anyone else for that matter.

As for them not being popular outside of the UK, you must be joking right?

No, just asking for evidence. Earlier I posted YouGov polls showing that they are very unpopular in the UK, so it would be reasonable to ask you to do the same for them. The VaxLive concert that they were involved with was a flop. What tangible evidence do you have that these two are loved? There may be some curiosity about them due to their royal connections, but that kind of proves the opposite to what you are claiming. The interest is in the royals, not in Harry and Meghan the C list celebrities.

I like good vibes and I don’t care to bash two people I don’t know anything thing about.

Aren't you the same poster who described two people you don't know as 'dull'? Is that 'good vibes'?

Lol @Coolandclamy

They turned their back on the British public. Yes they could have achieved so much and I for one thought it was great when they got together and was really pleased for Harry that he had found love with a beautiful woman who was breaking with royal tradition.
It was them who messed up when they flounced off to California.
They have exposed themselves to be hypocritical and narcissistic.

I admit I am overly invested in this but with little other entertainment in lockdown this is like a soap opera and they have brought it on themselves

They've left a life of absolute privilege because they didn't want to be told to behave in a certain as the rest of the family is expected to. Which was exactly their right to do. But what they can't then expect is to carry on using their royal names to trade on, still be treated with deference and preference, and to be funded while doing so. That's what the public are pissed off about, it really is that simple.

"it actually matters to him that his family are important royals."I think that this is the thing.

Surely to be an important royal you need to be part of it-and even then you're going to gradually slide away.

I don't think that they/he have got over not being able to have the half in half out that they wanted.

I think that the thought that their popularity meant that they could call the shots.

It should be noted that Katherine and William are very dull. They are only popular because of anti-Harry and Meghan. They are not popular for their own sake and in their own right. They are defined by what Harry and Meghan are not or not doing

That's not at all true. I'm a big fan of Katherine. I don't mind that she's dull at all...I'm dull too. I like that no one has anything bad to say about her, she seems a kind person and I think that's an overlooked quality. I appreciate her work around children and early years. I also think she's very pretty. I really like her!

Was the Vax Live concert a flop. I read it went wonderfully and Haz got a standing ovation. (Then it was reported it was standing only.)

There is a thread on here "but we took you to stately homes" about alleged child abuse and mh issues. Perhaps we should have "but we took you to look at poor peoples houses" for the poor abused allegedly prince.

@Viviennemary

Was the Vax Live concert a flop. I read it went wonderfully and Haz got a standing ovation. (Then it was reported it was standing only.)

That was pre-recorded and yes, it was a standing only audience and they were told when to clap and cheer. They were mostly key workers invited for free and probably so thrilled to be at a live performance that they would applaud a performing seal, or even a sulky ex-royal.

Viewing figures were dismal however. It was pipped by the supposedly boring 'Dateline' in ratings. The whole idea of a show like this seems really outdated to me. Who wants to be lectured at by a gang of past their prime celebrities?