Harry’s podcast

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Carrying on the discussion about Harry’s podcast.

He also credited William in his interview in Jan 2019 with Briony Gordon on her podcast Mad World .

When they moved to Canada and their early days in the US, they managed to fly under the radar almost completely, they had closed down their social media and were rarely mentioned in the media, it really did seem like they were doing what they said they wanted to do. I really admired them for making the decision to walk away and try to live a 'normal' life.

Now they have reopened the floodgates to all the things they said they didn't want and all the things that made their lives miserable. They could have continued to live a fairly anonymous, privileged philantrophic life, and even if they decided that an anonymous life wasn't for them after all, they would have had the same opportunities but without the need to sensationalise the wrongs they felt they were subjected to and to denigrate his own family in the way he has done.

His family and extended family are likely saying exactly the same as what most people on this thread are saying.

Who would have thought that Harry would be the new Paul Burrell.
Tacky !

@Roussette

Ahhhh, so someone who is in in a privileged position doesn't have a voice, he should shut up because of his upbringing. Got it.

That's absolutely not what's been said.

He has a voice because of his family and the institution of the RF - a family he's choosing to denigrate.

No one is saying he doesn't have a right to speak as he sees fit (or as suits his bank balance).

What is being said is that he or anyone else doesn't get to choose how the public perceive what he has to say.

We are in the midst of a pandemic. Bodies are being thrown in the Ganges in India. People are dying in their drives in Brazil. The Israeli forces are bombing civilians in Palestine.

Yet H's focus is is firmly rooted in his own entitled narrative and self importance.

Time and again he re-writes history. His father chose to send him to Eton rather than Gordonstone to "break the cycle" of the miserable schooling he'd had, one aspect of which was because its proximity meant both W&H could have weekends at home/regular visits as well as a more supportive school environment.

Similarly he never went on the back of his fathers bike and can literally break the (bi)cycle with Archie - despite multiple pictures proving otherwise.

He claims his father cut him off - rather than clarify his father said he would not pay him his £2m a year allowance from the Duchy of Cornwall that was provided to fund the expenses of being a working Royal - something he chose not to do. Disingenuous no?

His life has not been a bed of roses. He lost his mother, has endured their public break up, been hounded by the media. He has dyslexia. His wife was the recipient of vile racist press.

Simultaneously he's also had the cushion of great wealth and power enabling him to have access to resources that people who've suffered far worse in life could not have hoped for.

He could use his voice and privilege to make a difference to many people but instead chooses to continually score points against his family to line his pockets.

He is behaving in a very petulant and arrogant fashion and I hope to goodness for his children's sake that it won't backfire any more than it has.

I feel sorry for him in a way, he obvious didn’t get the reaction from the interview he did with Megan, he hoped for.I am sure someone is pulling his strings and he is just the puppet. I think the royal family have responded well so far and he doesn’t know how to take it forward.

Is someone who wants to talk about what they're struggling with 'whining'?

Continually saying the same thing over and over again is whining. Announcing to the whole world everything which is wrong with your life, and constantly blaming others, is whining. While the world is facing a pandemic which has impacted many in devastating ways, while parts of the world struggle with war and famine, and unimaginable poverty, moaning about your petty struggles in public is whining.

Everyone struggles, many do it in silence. If you need to talk about your struggles then talk about them - to the people who might be able to help, not to others who actually have nothing to do with you and aren't even interested.

@Roussette

Most people?

On this thread in party, maybe.

But not elsewhere

Since the Oprah whinefest, Harry's popularity ratings in the UK dropped into the red. His wife was already unpopular and her ratings plummetted further. I'd say the discussion here is pretty reflective of the broader British public's opinion of this pair.

yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2021/03/12/public-opinion-harry-and-meghan-falls-new-low-afte

Excellent post @DeRigueurMortis

Since the Oprah whinefest, Harry's popularity ratings in the UK dropped into the red. His wife was already unpopular and her ratings plummetted further. I'd say the discussion here is pretty reflective of the broader British public's opinion of this pair.

I'm not in the UK, but am in the Commonwealth, and find the same here.

@Roussette

No one has to read the DM or read anything about them if you don't want. You obviously do!

Some People in the uk are obsessed with them.

Hear, hear, @DeRigueurMortis.

And, just to repeat something I referenced hours ago on this fast-moving thread:

The Living Years. (B.A.Robertson/Mike Rutherford)
Every generation
Blames the one before
And all of their frustrations
Come beating on your door
I know that I'm a prisoner
To all my Father held so dear
I know that I'm a hostage
To all his hopes and fears
I just wish I could have told him in the living years
Oh, crumpled bits of paper
Filled with imperfect thought
Stilted conversations
I'm afraid that's all we've got
You say you just don't see it
He says it's perfect sense
You just can't get agreement
In this present tense
We all talk a different language
Talking in defence
Say it loud (say it loud), say it clear (oh say it clear)
You can listen as well as you hear
It's too late (it's too late) when we die (oh when we die)
To admit we don't see eye to eye
So we open up a quarrel
Between the present and the past
We only sacrifice the future
It's the bitterness that lasts
So don't yield to the fortunes
You sometimes see as fate
It may have a new perspective
On a different day
And if you don't give up, and don't give in
You may just be okay
So say it loud, say it clear (oh say it clear)
You can listen as well as you hear
Because it's too late, it's too late (it's too late) when we die (oh when we die)
To admit we don't see eye to eye
I wasn't there that morning
When my Father passed away
I didn't get to tell him
All the things I had to say
I think I caught his spirit
Later that same year
I'm sure I heard his echo
In my baby's new born tears
I just wish I could have told him in the living years
Say it loud, say it clear (oh say it clear)
You can listen as well as you hear
It's too late (it's too late) when we die (it's too late when we die)
To admit we don't see eye to eye
So say it, say it, say it loud (say it loud)
Say it clear (come on say it clear)

I have it on good authority that when he was in the Army Air Corp he used to copy other colleagues' written work/presentations or get them to do it for him while he went out boozing

Just trying to get a handle on this - so if the Angela Levin interview was reported correctly, Harry said Meghan had "nothing to do with" him getting MH treatment and the suggestion came from William ... but now he's saying it was actually her idea?

Have I understood that correctly? Because obviously Meghan could have suggested he get more treatment since that interview, but if it's as presented then that's another lie

I honestly just do not get what Harry is trying to achieve now?

@Letsgetreadytocrumble

I honestly just do not get what Harry is trying to achieve now?

Honestly I think the general consensus is he is trying to achieve is to increase his bank balance under the guise of promoting support for mental health.

@Puzzledandpissedoff

Just trying to get a handle on this - so if the Angela Levin interview was reported correctly, Harry said Meghan had "nothing to do with" him getting MH treatment and the suggestion came from William ... but now he's saying it was actually her idea?

Have I understood that correctly? Because obviously Meghan could have suggested he get more treatment since that interview, but if it's as presented then that's another lie

Yes your understanding is correct - another revision of history...

A bit like getting married before the wedding, security being dependent on titles, I was embarrassed to get help for my wife despite being a MH advocate, my passport was taken yet I made more international trips in a year than the average oligarch etc etc

Frankly I can't understand why anyone gives any credence to anything they say without fact checking it first.

I'm sure they believe their own "truth" but are trapped in a mutual echo chamber walled with "hard done by" bricks of gold.

The phrase "diamond shoes pinching" is very apt for them both.

My memory is that William encouraged him to seek mental health support before he had even met Meghan. Harry said that having had some counselling, he was then in a place where he could actually be in a relationship and subsequently met Meghan.

I’m pretty sure he never said anything about Meghan having nothing to do with him seeking mental health support. This was all before he met her.

@artquejtion

When they moved to Canada and their early days in the US, they managed to fly under the radar almost completely, they had closed down their social media and were rarely mentioned in the media, it really did seem like they were doing what they said they wanted to do. I really admired them for making the decision to walk away and try to live a 'normal' life.

Now they have reopened the floodgates to all the things they said they didn't want and all the things that made their lives miserable. They could have continued to live a fairly anonymous, privileged philantrophic life, and even if they decided that an anonymous life wasn't for them after all, they would have had the same opportunities but without the need to sensationalise the wrongs they felt they were subjected to and to denigrate his own family in the way he has done.

His family and extended family are likely saying exactly the same as what most people on this thread are saying.

when they published that weird pic with A's face in the front and them at the back i sensed they are back. before there was peace.

Yes your understanding is correct - another revision of history...

Fair enough, I just wanted to check

I mentioned this thing about "their (or anyone else's) truth" on another thread, and frankly the ridiculous phrase offends me. Either something's true or it isn't, and for my taste there's rather too much garbage spouted with these words tacked on, presumably in the hope that the speaker can stifle challenge

And stifle it they can't, no matter how much they might wish to - doubly so if they're foolish enough to lie about something easily checked

Simultaneously he's also had the cushion of great wealth and power enabling him to have access to resources that people who've suffered far worse in life could not have hoped for. so true.

@Pixxie7

I feel sorry for him in a way, he obvious didn’t get the reaction from the interview he did with Megan, he hoped for.I am sure someone is pulling his strings and he is just the puppet. I think the royal family have responded well so far and he doesn’t know how to take it forward.

he looks like a brainwashed person.

Remember a mental health conversation Harry had with Kate and William as they launched Heads Together? They were sitting outside in a garden. Harry talked then about how he realised he needed therapy and decided to do something about his mental health. It was a very sweet and supportive conversation.

@Mandalay246

Is someone who wants to talk about what they're struggling with 'whining'?

Continually saying the same thing over and over again is whining. Announcing to the whole world everything which is wrong with your life, and constantly blaming others, is whining. While the world is facing a pandemic which has impacted many in devastating ways, while parts of the world struggle with war and famine, and unimaginable poverty, moaning about your petty struggles in public is whining.

Everyone struggles, many do it in silence. If you need to talk about your struggles then talk about them - to the people who might be able to help, not to others who actually have nothing to do with you and aren't even interested.

so true.