Harry’s podcast

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Carrying on the discussion about Harry’s podcast.

Your constant defence of a spoilt, petulant, entitled man is mystifying

Says your opinion.

I just can’t get over the time that Roussette must need to spend to police these threads about Meghan constantly. It must be a full time job!

You must hate people like me that have a different opinion to you!

I'm not on them as much as some 'detractors' who spend their lives digging around for stuff to hate! But feel free to talk about them too if you so care...

And it's amazing that all the 'personal' posts come from those who dislike M&H.

How odd is that.

I literally couldn't believe my ears when M admitted suicidal thoughts that her child would one day come to know about

It is not a bad thing for a child to have a parent who is open to talking about mental health. Should no parent ever discuss this? I agree that it may be best for a child to hear about these issues directly from their parent rather than read about it online beforehand, but a lot of the posts have just said things like “he has to deal with a suicidal mother” as if that, rather than the publicity, is their main criticism.
I also don’t like your use of the word “admitted” rather than for example a more neutral “talked about” etc. People rarely get accused of admitting other symptoms of other illnesses, only things people think should be hidden away.

Rather than "like it" I think it's probably closer to the mark to say he made the best of it and got on with the job.

That was indeed the Prince Philip way - and the way many of us approach our lives. We can't all get everything we want, but most of us work with what we have - we don't whine our way through life blaming others.

People rarely get accused of admitting other symptoms of other illnesses, only things people think should be hidden away

Oh yes. So true.

MargaretFraggle
That was really kind, thank you.

And it's amazing that all the 'personal' posts come from those who dislike M&H.

I don't think this is correct from a scroll through this thread alone.

That said I'm very surprised by how partisan these threads are.

As I've said previously I wish H&M no ill will. I don't blame them from wanting a different life and leaving the RF.

It's how they've gone about it that I can't understand. So many decisions that were not in their own best interests and actions that dripped with entitlement.

I really wish they'd take a step away from the media circus they seem to think they are ring masters of and start enjoying their new life and making a success of their future rather than monetising the past and burning bridges (both with the public and family) in the process.

@Mandalay246 so true. It must be exhausting trying to attain something that is never going to happen. Life is so much better if you make the best of what you have got instead of whining about things you want but can’t have. I’m not saying we shouldn’t strive for better, just that life doesn’t always turn out as we would have wanted but that doesn’t necessarily make it worse.

Why do you keep mentioning the word 'whining', it's really silly. It just shuts people up who want to have a voice and say something.

Is someone who wants to talk about what they're struggling with 'whining'?
Maybe Harry wanted to speak about (on the podcast) what he felt, is that 'whining'?
Have you listened to the whole 1hr30m? If so, you will know that the one minute that posters on here are talking about was really a small part of it.

I do think it’s interesting that it was William who first suggested that Harry get help as per his interview with Angela Levin and not Meghan as he claimed in his podcast. He has been quick to decry his brother and his situation, but it would seem that William helped him out.

Why do you keep mentioning the word 'whining', it's really silly

Because it’s exactly what this highly privileged, spoilt man child is doing. He whines about how appalling life is. He’s walked away from the gilded cage and is still complaining about his diamond shoes pinching. It’s not silly, it’s obscene.

Whining. One definition. To complain in an annoying way. Yes that's Harry.

I find it really rude. Everyone has a voice. Do you label everyone who has something to say that you don't agree with as 'whining?'

He's walked away and he has a voice, get used to it.

*Why do you keep mentioning the word 'whining', it's really silly. It just shuts people up who want to have a voice and say something.

Is someone who wants to talk about what they're struggling with 'whining'?
Maybe Harry wanted to speak about (on the podcast) what he felt, is that 'whining'?
Have you listened to the whole 1hr30m? If so, you will know that the one minute that posters on here are talking about was really a small part of it.*

One dictionary definition of "whining" is: a feeble and petulant complaint.

I'd say that's a pretty fair description of some of H's disclosures.

He has "a voice" by virtue of the the very family and institution he's so keen to publicly denigrate.

"Harry from Newcastle" isn't getting $100m deals from Netflix is he, however much he wants to have a voice and say something?

Yes I have listened to the Podcast and frankly it was underwhelming in general. 90 mins of my life that could have been far more productive.

The fact the comments under discussion were a small proportion is also irrelevant.

He (or anyone else) doesn't get to choose the "weighting" of public perception on a sentence by sentence basis.

@Roussette

I find it really rude. Everyone has a voice. Do you label everyone who has something to say that you don't agree with as 'whining?'

He's walked away and he has a voice, get used to it.

No I don’t. Most people don’t whine like a petulant child. I only wish he would walk away, I wish even more that he’d shut the fuck up. Anyway he’ll have no choice soon, there’s a limit to what he has to say, he’ll run out soon.

Ahhhh, so someone who is in in a privileged position doesn't have a voice, he should shut up because of his upbringing. Got it.

Like it or not most people don't approve of the way he is behaving. And his popularity has plummeted.

Most people?

On this thread in party, maybe.

But not elsewhere

Particular

@Roussette

Most people?

On this thread in party, maybe.

But not elsewhere

I honestly don't think they are as popular as they think they are. Most people I know personally had sympathy for them initially but there does seem to have been a shift in attitudes since the podcasts and interviews.

Anyone else getting flashbacks to "Outnumbered" when the sister comes back from California having written a book slagging them all off?

I didn't think they (or in this case he) could stoop lower. I'm really quite shocked and disgusted at how much he's willing to say about his family. There is absolutely no other reason or benefit for him to do this other than money and fame....if it was true healing he wanted he'd quietly heal in therapy and possibly work through things with his family. But interviews abs podcasts....nah mate it's all about selling your soul to the highest bidder. Fucking disgusting!

I do wonder if once the subject matter of their break for freedom has been exhausted, and the ‘my family are so toxic’ narrative has been done to death, they might move on to revealing really damaging personal stuff.

I do think it’s interesting that it was William who first suggested that Harry get help as per his interview with Angela Levin and not Meghan as he claimed in his podcast. He has been quick to decry his brother and his situation, but it would seem that William helped him out

Yes, that is interesting. Now he’s fallen out with his brother, he’s not willing to give him credit for anything? I think that’s quite common when people fall out.

Must be very hurtful to William. He’s reinventing the narrative.