Harry’s podcast

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Carrying on the discussion about Harry’s podcast.

@Roussette

I think it’s fairly clear Harry’s a bit dim

Says who? Apart from you and those that despise him?

Interesting to listen to the whole podcast actually. He comes across as intelligent and informed.

His A-level results were dire for Eton.

Gosh! How awful!

B in art!

Let's knock him for that! Makes sense! He isn't an academic!

Nor am I !

Left school at 15, so there!

She should gave worn the seat belt,sad but true.

@Roussette

Someone who is five times over the drink drive limit is pretty squiffy

OK. So you would know that from sight. From a recommended driver. From someone who is attached to the upmarket hotel.

I wouldn't. Maybe you are more versed in this sort of thing.

Stop blaming her for her demise. It's pretty nasty

He wasn't a 'recommmended driver'. Who on earth would 'recommend' a drunk man as a driver? He was a security man.

Not to mention that Diana had turned down offers of official police protection from both the British and the Paris police.

I agree that she is not to blame for her death - it was a horrible accident. However, it is a fact that she took decisions which directly led to her death. How you can be in denial about that, while seeking to blame the man she had separated from 5 years previously, is baffling.

@Roussette you are indefatigable. It’s quite extraordinary.

His A-level results were dire for Eton

So?!

He sounds very intelligent on his podcast, good command of words and people can grow you know.... or do you write them off at that age?

Let me know about that. Won't go down well on MN

So pleased indefatigable that you are enjoying my postings.

I aim to please!

So Diana is is no way to blame for getting into a car driven by a man - not even a professional driver - whose blood had 5 times the French alcohol limit, plus antidepressants? And not bothering to use a seatbelt?

This is nuts! No one knew the chauffeur was drunk. Or taking meds. And they were being hounded by paps.

There's a film snippet of the chauffeur just before the accident, standing in the hall of the hotel, waiting for Dodi and Diana. He bends down from a standing position to pull up his socks or adjust his shoelaces or something. He does it so niftily, transferring his weight from one leg to the other, that it fuelled an entire conspiracy theory that he wasn't drunk in the first place.

@Roussette

Gosh! How awful!

B in art!

Let's knock him for that! Makes sense! He isn't an academic!

Nor am I !

Left school at 15, so there!

Tbf there are rumours he didn’t do his coursework either

Watches Rousette’s head explode

How you can be in denial about that

Not denying anything, but anyone who has coped with tragedy in the most awful way, knows that life turns on a coin. Just a flip of a coin. One tiny silly decision and that's it. I know it. It's beyond reasoning or understanding. Really it is.

She cannot be blamed for anything that contributed to what happend.

@Roussette

How you can be in denial about that

Not denying anything, but anyone who has coped with tragedy in the most awful way, knows that life turns on a coin. Just a flip of a coin. One tiny silly decision and that's it. I know it. It's beyond reasoning or understanding. Really it is.

She cannot be blamed for anything that contributed to what happend.

Should have worn her seatbelt though.

Haha Littlebear got me there! Good one!

don't really care, it's the person who speak now that matters to me

I was written off at 15, so there you go, here I am!

@Smashingorbs

So Diana is is no way to blame for getting into a car driven by a man - not even a professional driver - whose blood had 5 times the French alcohol limit, plus antidepressants? And not bothering to use a seatbelt?

This is nuts! No one knew the chauffeur was drunk. Or taking meds. And they were being hounded by paps.

There's a film snippet of the chauffeur just before the accident, standing in the hall of the hotel, waiting for Dodi and Diana. He bends down from a standing position to pull up his socks or adjust his shoelaces or something. He does it so niftily, transferring his weight from one leg to the other, that it fuelled an entire conspiracy theory that he wasn't drunk in the first place.

Noone knew that the bloke who'd been standing at the bar all evening might have been drinking?

Really? Someone 5 times above the legal limit would very likely smell of alcohol if nothing else. And then ther'es the seatbelt issue.

And a French investigation exonerated the 'paps'.

Should have worn her seatbelt though

Course she should but that sounds very blamey.

How is it Charles’ fault that Diana got into the car with a driver that was over the limit and no seat belt on? Do you mean she would still have been with Charles if he was committed to his marriage and so not with Dodi? Charles and Diana had split in 1992. It is entirely possible that Diana may have decided to leave Charles even if he himself had remained “committed”. Both were unhappy on that marriage.

@Roussette

I think it’s fairly clear Harry’s a bit dim

Says who? Apart from you and those that despise him?

Interesting to listen to the whole podcast actually. He comes across as intelligent and informed.

By any measure someone who only managed to get grades B and D at A Level (Art and Geography respectively) at one of the very best public schools in the country can hardly be said to be intellectually overburdened.

That doesn't mean he's "dim" (I don't like that expression) in the sense I know very academically successful people who lack what you might term "street smarts", common sense or what's often called "emotional intelligence" in various combinations and similar in reverse.

What is does suggest is that he's probably not overly gifted with the critical thinking or analytical skills that are closely linked to academic success.

@Roussette

How you can be in denial about that

Not denying anything, but anyone who has coped with tragedy in the most awful way, knows that life turns on a coin. Just a flip of a coin. One tiny silly decision and that's it. I know it. It's beyond reasoning or understanding. Really it is.

She cannot be blamed for anything that contributed to what happend.

Why not? She took decisions which directly led to her death, or at least made it more likely. That's not to 'blame' her for her death, but if she'd waited for an official driver, or simply worn a seatbelt, she'd probably be alive today.

It's surely a lot more relevant than the actions of the husband she'd been separated from for 5 years.

@SirVixofVixHall

Don't agree.

I found my way from my mid 20s onwards. I have no academic success whatsoever. When I do surveys or whatever, I have to put down barely nothing.

But I have achieved. Later in life.

What is does suggest is that he's probably not overly gifted with the critical thinking or analytical skills that are closely linked to academic success

Fuck. What does that make me?!

Tosh.

I have NO academic succcess whatsoever yet I have done well.

Rolled my eyes so much they hurt

@Roussette

I think it’s fairly clear Harry’s a bit dim

Says who? Apart from you and those that despise him?

Interesting to listen to the whole podcast actually. He comes across as intelligent and informed.

I agree Rousette. I don't think Harry's dim. He's not academic which is something completely different.

Rolled my eyes so much they hurt

I had an eye infection last week. Can I suggest boiled water on cotton wool pads, it really worked for me.

Seriously, I had to have a telephone consultation with Doc.

I don't think Harry's dim. He's not academic which is something completely different

Thanks derxa I'm not an academic in any way shape or form, and I think intelligence can be measured in all sorts of ways. And not necessarily academic

@Roussette

Don't agree.

I found my way from my mid 20s onwards. I have no academic success whatsoever. When I do surveys or whatever, I have to put down barely nothing.

But I have achieved. Later in life.

To be fair, I’m not sure that’s a reasonable comparison to PH. I assuming (maybe I’m wrong) that you weren’t at one of the top schools in the country? With presumably access to the best tutors possible. Two A levels (I’m surprised Eton even allows you to do just 2) at a B and a D must be pretty low down in Eton’s list of results.

Obviously that only relates to academia, and I do agree that that is not related to how good he may be at speaking, engaging with people, presenting ideas etc.