Harry’s podcast

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Carrying on the discussion about Harry’s podcast.

There is some ugly stereotyping. Barely below the surface.

Certain people are liars, aggressive, untrustworthy, manipulative

Others are gracious, honourable, warm and “like us”

Ah and the classic “playing victim”

Just seen the posts. Thank you Rupertbeartrousers and ChiefInspectorParker.

Kate had the opportunity to correct the record when stories started that Meghan made her cry. That started the anti-Meghan press narrative. Kate and William refused to issue a statement or defend Meghan or correct the record in any way. They threw Meghan under the bus. Thus Meghan having the need to set the record straight

Oh for crying out loud, they aren’t children in the playground. Trashy paper prints rubbish. Rise above it. Nobody needed to say anything, it’s unseemly. And frankly you sound a bit unhinged about the whole thing. If you’re not on their payroll maybe take a break from it all.

Crumbs goldfinch that's a post and a half, so she got in a car without a seatbelt (stupid) but blaming her for her actions as to how it ended up in her death, is a bit off.

There by the grace of god (who I don't believe in) go I.

Maybe if Charles was fully committed to his marriage she might not be in the position of the no seat belt thing

If you’re not on their payroll maybe take a break from it all

Why do the detractors keep spinning out this stuff?

Why aren't people allowed opinions on here without hearing this?

NO idea

People have given information on other threads the second part of the (Oprah) interview was filmed later on and well into PP’s hospital stay

I didn't know this; for that matter I didn't even know it was filmed in two parts rather than one. A pity in many ways that they didn't pull it at that point, especially as they allegedly weren't being paid

Harry is now criticising the American constitution. He thinks the first amendment is "bonkers". I can't see that opinion going down well in the States

I wouldn't worry; to many he'll be just another know-nothing Brit, sounding off about something he knows nothing about. They're pretty used to them in the US ...

Kate had the opportunity to correct the record when stories started that Meghan made her cry. That started the anti-Meghan press narrative. Kate and William refused to issue a statement or defend Meghan or correct the record in any way. They threw Meghan under the bus. Thus Meghan having the need to set the record straight. If only Kate and William had done the decent thing and clarified, to take the heat and abuse off Meghan, there would have been no need for Meghan to speak about it in the interview, and it wouldn't have existed as a story. I think you're victim-blaming here. Meghan wanted to correct the record and set the record straight, as any of us would want to. Kate threw Meghan under a bus and to the wolves. She is the instigator there, not a victim.

CokeDrinker I understand your point and maybe that particular incident's a bad example but no one knows for sure, outside of those present, what happened exactly do they?

Obviously it's despicable if K&W's team did brief against M to take attention off other "alleged" issues, but we only really have M's version of events don't we? And KP's statement that there was no feud between the sisters-in-law. Or am I missing something?

It's entirely possible that both of them were upset. Meghan anxious to get everything right. Kate tired not long given birth to Louis. Fitting clothes to young children taking a long time. You can imagine the scenario.

[quote CokeDrinker]**@Smashingorbs* I think they probably have an idea but I think it is unfair to broadcast it publicly when the people you are accusing have no opportunity to put their side of things, as in the Meghan-Kate- bridesmaids debacle. As you say, their view of events may be very different. Neither may be entirely right or wrong.*

Kate had the opportunity to correct the record when stories started that Meghan made her cry. That started the anti-Meghan press narrative. Kate and William refused to issue a statement or defend Meghan or correct the record in any way. They threw Meghan under the bus. Thus Meghan having the need to set the record straight. If only Kate and William had done the decent thing and clarified, to take the heat and abuse off Meghan, there would have been no need for Meghan to speak about it in the interview, and it wouldn't have existed as a story. I think you're victim-blaming here. Meghan wanted to correct the record and set the record straight, as any of us would want to. Kate threw Meghan under a bus and to the wolves. She is the instigator there, not a victim.[/quote]
They haven’t spoken about this at all though. Kate hasn’t even spoken out to defend herself against the allegations Meghan made to OW.
I don’t think their silence is indicative of anything other than that is how they always (don’t) respond to gossip like this.

@Roussette

Crumbs goldfinch that's a post and a half, so she got in a car without a seatbelt (stupid) but blaming her for her actions as to how it ended up in her death, is a bit off.

There by the grace of god (who I don't believe in) go I.

Maybe if Charles was fully committed to his marriage she might not be in the position of the no seat belt thing

Huh?

So Diana is is no way to blame for getting into a car driven by a man - not even a professional driver - whose blood had 5 times the French alcohol limit, plus antidepressants? And not bothering to use a seatbelt?

But Charles, from whom she'd been separated for 5 years, IS somehow to blame?

Maybe if Charles was fully committed to his marriage she might not be in the position of the no seat belt thing

I hope you were making a point by making that deliberately as absurd as blaming her for her death in the first place.

Well what a mess.

I think it’s fairly clear Harry’s a bit dim.

It’s to be hoped he finds some peace. But this isn’t the way to do it.

Of course, Kate hasn't spoken out about the non allegations. There are none.

And she can't speak out without the men in grey suits agreeing it anyway.

Ah and the classic “playing victim”

Was that aimed at me because I said Meghan suggested she was victimised? Are you suggesting that opinion is invalid for some reason? Or doesn't stem from what Meghan actually said?

Who are these men in grey suits?

So Diana is is no way to blame for getting into a car driven by a man - not even a professional driver - whose blood had 5 times the French alcohol limit, plus antidepressants? And not bothering to use a seatbelt?

So she knew that? How?

Who are these men in grey suits?

Maybe read up about them?

They are the people who run the RF.

SirVixofVixHall my late mother used to say the same thing.

@Roussette

So Diana is is no way to blame for getting into a car driven by a man - not even a professional driver - whose blood had 5 times the French alcohol limit, plus antidepressants? And not bothering to use a seatbelt?

So she knew that? How?

Someone who is five times over the drink drive limit is pretty squiffy.

Why does it matter if Meghan corrected the story?

Perhaps because lying has a way of casting doubt on whatever else someone says, whether they're Meghan or anyone else?

I think it’s fairly clear Harry’s a bit dim

Says who? Apart from you and those that despise him?

Interesting to listen to the whole podcast actually. He comes across as intelligent and informed.

@Roussette

So Diana is is no way to blame for getting into a car driven by a man - not even a professional driver - whose blood had 5 times the French alcohol limit, plus antidepressants? And not bothering to use a seatbelt?

So she knew that? How?

You're suggesting she didn't know that you should use a seatbelt when in a car?

Or that the bloke standing at the bar in The Ritz was not their official driver?

Or that someone standing at a bar had very likely been imbibing alcohol?

Now, I get that Diana, by her own admission, was no great intellectual. But she surely wasn't that thick.

Someone who is five times over the drink drive limit is pretty squiffy

OK. So you would know that from sight. From a recommended driver. From someone who is attached to the upmarket hotel.

I wouldn't. Maybe you are more versed in this sort of thing.

Stop blaming her for her demise. It's pretty nasty

He had literally the best education money can buy and still only managed to come out with a b in art and a d in geography

@sadperson16

Who are these men in grey suits?

It's a tired old cliche used by Sarah Ferguson which the new Fergie picked up on.

In fact, if you look at royal staff these days, they're often young, media savvy, very often female and often not even British. The days of mustachioed, tweed wearing, upper class courtiers are long gone.