Harry’s podcast

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Carrying on the discussion about Harry’s podcast.

I really don't see how Andrew keeping his title is a reason in them asking for theirs to be removed?

Because there is far more reason for Andrew to have his removed AFAIC. He is a non working Royal who has abused the system big time. Go and read his Wiki page at all that he's got away with.

And what next? Say they did? What hoop do they then have to jump through?

Whatever they do, it will never be enough.

Well, yes pays to attack H's family - financially, of course- but also because they're not in a position to answer back.

Now accusing her family of things while they're still here with her, I expect they'd want to answer back. Much safer to run people down that can't answer back (and get paid for it - kerching!).

Harry has deified his mum, easy when they have died. He never mentions Andrew whose behaviour must irk Meghan or not, who knows. He never criticises the Spencer family who behaved so badly when Diana was a child. He is a very confused individual. Maybe when he can sort it all out he will realise that both of his parents had their own issues. Maybe he will see that he is just a member of a family who are no different than your ordinary family, good and bad.

As other poster said, what is preventing Harry and Meghan from removing their titles? Nothing.
They could simply become Harry and Meghan Jones.
We'd take zero interest in the feckers if they didn't persist placing themselves at the centre of worldwide media dramas.

@Roussette

So why not do it then?

I explained why above, as far as I'm concerned.

I hear Chunga Changa is nice this time of year. Harry could travel there by raft to meet up with his good friend Greta Thunberg and discuss the plight of the penguins stranded in Belarus

Clever! Not. Just silly and reminds me of all those penguin posters who made it their life's work to troll and hate.

You didn't explain why at all. Harry seems to deeply resent his family and he and his wife have made a career of slagging them off in public. How can they justify keeping their titles?

And I do find it amusing how overinvested some people are in defending this spoiled, massively overprivilged idiot. If he puts himself out there, as he does with great enthusiasm, people are allowed to comment, and not fawning over his latest whining is not the same thing as trying to 'troll and hate.'

Because there is far more reason for Andrew to have his removed AFAIC.

But you're talking about them being removed by someone else not about Harry and Meghan asking for them to be removed.

I'm curious as to why they couldn't ask for this to happen. Does that mean if Andrew asked for his title to be removed it couldn't because then Harry would have to also lose his?

I'm not saying it will make any difference but I'm wondering why they apparently cannot ask for these titles to be removed. Surely if they asked there would be no reason to not respect their wishes?

And I imagine they're carrying on using it much like SarahF did for masses of books.

And of course the books entitled 'Dining with the Duchess' and 'Dieting with the Duchess'

I'm curious as to why they couldn't ask for this to happen

Why? Because of the flack they're getting on here?

Have you asked why SarahF hasn't asked for hers to be removed?

Why should they???? Can you answer me that, given you think they should. Whilst others keep their titles.

@PegPeople

Because there is far more reason for Andrew to have his removed AFAIC.

But you're talking about them being removed by someone else not about Harry and Meghan asking for them to be removed.

I'm curious as to why they couldn't ask for this to happen. Does that mean if Andrew asked for his title to be removed it couldn't because then Harry would have to also lose his?

I'm not saying it will make any difference but I'm wondering why they apparently cannot ask for these titles to be removed. Surely if they asked there would be no reason to not respect their wishes?

I don't think they need to ask for the titles to be removed. They can just not use them. The titles don't come with any land or money so are symbolic only, especially in the US. As I've said above, there is precedence for other royals not using their titles and indeed Harry did so himself in the army, when he went by 'Captain Wales'.

I really do not see how any of their fans can justify them using royal titles given their constant public criticism of the royals, and especially if they are offering their inane opinions on politics and other matters.

@sadie9

As other poster said, what is preventing Harry and Meghan from removing their titles? Nothing. They could simply become Harry and Meghan Jones. We'd take zero interest in the feckers if they didn't persist placing themselves at the centre of worldwide media dramas.

We all know why they don't. No more lucrative deals for FA.

IcedPurple you know as well as I do, if you were around last year, how many threads were deleted. A LOT. And hundreds of posts, so yes there was trolling and hating.
Let's not go down this route again please, but let's also not pretend it didn't happen.

The US posters seem have overslept today - not the same without hearing that the "Queen of England" should expect the garbage from the trash cans to be thrown on the Palace backyard, whilst telling me off for using incorrect words in UK.

I really do not see how any of their fans can justify them using royal titles given their constant public criticism of the royals

Fans lol. No, just hate the ridiculous bullying of them. And unfairness.

Did you criticise SarahF when she did a tell all about how awful it all was for her in the RF... the men in grey suits plotting against her, the lack of support for her etc etc.

Yet she carried on using her title.

@Roussette

They're making money off the back of Harry's royal connections, how much praise do they honestly deserve for that?

And how do you suggest he undoes being Prince Harry and become 'orginary Joe'. Like it or not, he is always going to be a royal.

Of course he can't. But don't praise them for working as though they're doing anything special, when they're receiving opportunities that no ordinary person could ever hope for, all on the back of his royal connections. When he has behaved poorly towards his family and doesn't seem to want to be a royal anymore anyway.

@Roussette I may have misunderstood, but I think @IcedPurple was talking about commenting on Harry was not trolling and hating. I don’t think she was directing this at other posters 🤷‍♀️😀

@Roussette

I'm curious as to why they couldn't ask for this to happen

Why? Because of the flack they're getting on here?

Have you asked why SarahF hasn't asked for hers to be removed?

Why should they???? Can you answer me that, given you think they should. Whilst others keep their titles.

I don't think Sarah Ferguson should use her royal titles either.

However, she hasn't made a career of slagging off the royal family and supposedly is still on good terms with the queen. Also, she doesn't think we need to hear her banal opinions on politics.

And Sarah can't ask for her titles to be removed because they are courtesty titles only. She doesn't actually hold a title. Her ex-husband does. So long as he holds a title, she does too by default. This is the sexist system super global feminist Meghan happily married into and equally happy continues to use even after moving to California.

@Roussette

I'm curious as to why they couldn't ask for this to happen

Why? Because of the flack they're getting on here?

Have you asked why SarahF hasn't asked for hers to be removed?

Why should they???? Can you answer me that, given you think they should. Whilst others keep their titles.

So they cannot ask for their titles to be removed because people are discussing them unfavourably online?

No I have no reason to ask about Sarah as to my albeit limited knowledge she only left the Royal family because she divorced.

I do personally think they should stop using their titles because they so clearly dislike the family that afforded them these titles. Of course Harry will always be a Prince by birth but he doesn't wish to associate with them so why not drop the title.

Im still curious as to why they wouldn't be able to have the titles removed if they themselves asked, which was my original question. Do you think if they didn't want the titles their wishes should be respected?

I was a bit sad to see this- I thought after the funeral maybe things would calm down. If the career aim/couple brand is about ‘thought leadership’ then getting on with doing that would be better than accepting interviews to air family issues again, surely. Also the timing seems so close to the funeral when family members (including him) are still grieving.

@Roussette

IcedPurple you know as well as I do, if you were around last year, how many threads were deleted. A LOT. And hundreds of posts, so yes there was trolling and hating. Let's not go down this route again please, but let's also not pretend it didn't happen.

They were mostly deleted because the Meghan fans swooped on and accused anyone of criticising her of being a racist.

@AmandaHoldensLips

I just can't believe they're still whining about their lives.

Exactly. For someone who's made no secret of how much he despises the media, he sure is a chatty little bollocks with them these days.

He's clearly in absolute awe of everything that comes out of Meghan's mouth and Meghan, for her part, is 100% all about Meghan. The thing I find really amusing about her is that the MORE sincere she believes herself, the more all-too-apparent it is that she's anything BUT sincere.

@Tabitha005 I 100% agree with you

I'm not saying it will make any difference but I'm wondering why they apparently cannot ask for these titles to be removed. Surely if they asked there would be no reason to not respect their wishes?

Not sure if the technicalities are comparable but there is at least one precedent that I can think of: Tony Benn who was the first peer to renounce his peerage to enable him to take his seat in Parliament. He had to campaign for a change in the law to achieve it. I find myself respecting him far more than when he was a figure of fun on the loony left. He was a man of principle and that is a sadly rare trait these days.

I don't think Sarah Ferguson should use her royal titles either.

Hooray, we're getting somewhere!

I hae answered the question more than once. Why does it have to just apply to them? Sarah was most uncomplimentary about her time in the RF, yet used her title for a very long time, and may well still do so.

I have no idea on protocols. As I said, I thought it was a parliamentary thing and couldn't just be removed but I am not a royalist so I don't know.

I still think it would be very wrong for Andrew to retain his and they feel obliged to give up theirs. But of course Andrew isn't going to bite the hand that feeds him is he?

IF M&H gave up their titles, whether voluntarily or not, Andrew would be forced to also. And while the Queen is alive that is not going to happen.

It's all hypotehtical asking my opinion on whether their wishes should be respected if they asked.
They haven't asked have they?

And if I were them I wouldn't... given the record of Andrew and his misdeeds.

Fans lol. No, just hate the ridiculous bullying of them. And unfairness.

Here you go again. 'Hate', 'trolling', 'bullying'. They don't have to read a single word of what is written about them. But they do because they both seem to be utterly obsessed with what people think of them. Criticising people who choose to be in the public eye is not 'bullying'.

And you're clearly a fan. Why else put so much energy into defending two extraordinarily privilged people who seem remarkably self-absorbed? They wouldn't do it for you.

Did you criticise SarahF when she did a tell all about how awful it all was for her in the RF... the men in grey suits plotting against her, the lack of support for her etc etc.

Yes I did.

He's clearly in absolute awe of everything that comes out of Meghan's mouth and Meghan, for her part, is 100% all about Meghan. The thing I find really amusing about her is that the MORE sincere she believes herself, the more all-too-apparent it is that she's anything BUT sincere

God alive. What rubbish is this. Do you know them personally? Do you know the dynamics of their marriage?

No.
You don't know any of this.

I imagine (but I don't know) that it's an equal marriage.