Harry’s podcast

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Carrying on the discussion about Harry’s podcast.

I guess the word is "optics" - how does it look, even if you are believe they're not hypocrites on the many contradictions every time they speak - the optics are not good for anything H&M do right now due to the OW show, death in the family the known racist calling his family racist yada yada

I think it seems that their shelf life has been evaluated and it's go now, go hard and squeeze every bit of mileage out of "poor me" act. They'll all move on, but H will be left with a reputation any genuine friend wouldn't accept or trust. He will run his mouth off soon about their political system so he will eventually be viewed with the same raised eyebrows. Might not be so obvious with the facelifts in Hollywood but there will be raised eyebrows/face pulling in due course.....read the room, oh wait you can't.

They're making money off the back of Harry's royal connections, how much praise do they honestly deserve for that?

And how do you suggest he undoes being Prince Harry and become 'orginary Joe'. Like it or not, he is always going to be a royal.

@Applesonthelawn

The problem is not that he talks about mental health openly but that he attacks his family in doing so, dragging them into the debate against their wishes and providing the tabloids with royal fodder. So his priority is clearly to talk about himself, and not to unleash a safe space of compassion for Charles or his grandmother. He really is a massive hypocrite and so embarrassingly clueless. I suspect he's angry at his mother for dying but has to take it out on whoever's living, so the therapy hasn't been working at all.

This.

@Roussette

They're making money off the back of Harry's royal connections, how much praise do they honestly deserve for that?

And how do you suggest he undoes being Prince Harry and become 'orginary Joe'. Like it or not, he is always going to be a royal.

give up titles? then he can say what he likes?

You do amuse me Marmalade ! You post as if you are mystic meg and can see into the future!

You can't!

They could well be a roaring success, well thought of, plenty of friendship, kudos and love coming their way.
My money's on that.
I think we'll look back in a decade or so, when the RF are slimmed down (hopefully) and think... H&M made a smart move there.

give up titles?
then he can say what he likes?

Won't happen. Because Andrew's will have to go too.

@Roussette

Going by that list, anything they say is wrong because there will always be somebody to stretch it out with a 'but what about blah blah'

Do not talk about the planes, the rest of the RF are far worse. Even recently there's been bad press on this.

They are earning money, yes. Good for them. It's not like the taxpayer are funding them which was the whole of last year the huge bugbear on these threads. They are doing it themselves, well done them.

The airing of private issues was right before the wedding and was awful. TM sold private letters on his daughter and sold set up pap shots. Ghastly.

They do not want the vile media intrusion they had over here... it was horrendous, who can blame them for moving away from that.

But the rest of the RF don't twaddle on about how using planes etc is messing up the plant....

If the airing of private issues is so awful...why are they airing private issues?

If you genuinely believe that they won't have press intrusion in the US.... Then you're deluded. They'll have more intrusion, because the UK media have an unwritten agreement to not publish paparazzi shots etc there's 'unauthorised' images of Archie going to nursery etc.

So.... let's say he becomes just Prince Harry, instead of Duke of Sussex... do you honestly honestly think that would make any difference? Everyone knows who he is, it would be no difference at all.

And say he did do that... what goalpost moving would there be then? Because they have done everything asked of them so far but it's never enough, so I presume they have to get new faces and move to the Amazon jungle where no one knows them or something 🤣

@Roussette

*give up titles? then he can say what he likes?*

Won't happen. Because Andrew's will have to go too.

I might be being a little dence but why would Andrew have to lose his title for Harry to give up his?

I could understand that logic of they were being removed by the Queen but why can't Harry and Meghan ask to have their titles removed, what is actually stopping them from doing this?

But the rest of the RF don't twaddle on about how using planes etc is messing up the plant....

Excuse me, yes they do! Particularly Charles and William. They have both talked on it a lot.

Less than four years ago, H talked of M joining the RF as ‘the family she never had’ as a very positive thing. Now they are dysfunctional bunch he and M need to get away from. He and M wanted to ‘hit the ground running’ in joining the RF as she would be ‘very good at it’. Now it’s a dysfunctional, unhealthy ‘Truman show’. I really wishes someone who interviews him would confront him with these contradictions but he will only deal with ‘yes’ people.

Well, I didn't know about this podcast until I read about it in here, so have found it and am listening. Only 15 minutes in, but thus far, it seems many people in here are proving Harry absolutely correct.

"I am being asked to share my story to hopefully help someone, or loads of other people. I'm probably going to get trolled, I'm probably going to get attacked, by the same people that would do it anyway. If I'm willing to make that decision, surely that comes from a place of courage, not weakness."

As noted, the easy thing to do is stay quiet. It does take a tremendous level of courage to speak out about mental health issues. Mostly because of the reaction of other people doing what so many here are doing. "Shut up! Get lost! Stop Whining!" Or worse, "What a liar!".

I could understand that logic of they were being removed by the Queen but why can't Harry and Meghan ask to have their titles removed, what is actually stopping them from doing this?

Of course they're not going to do that! They're trading off those titles.

I do think Andrew's in a whole world of shit, and is a very horrible and dangerous man, being protected by other dangerous 'men in grey suits', and I'd be surprised if Harry and Meghan don't have an opinion on it.

Very surprised.

I shall take one for the team and listen to the podcast and report back laterz.

@Viviennemary

Genetic Pain? What does this even mean.

It means not what he says.

He means the cycle of shitty parenting.

Eg grandparents smacked their kids, so your parents snacked you....do you now smack your kids, or put a stop to the smacking?

I guess that's what he was trying to say, except not smacking,but something else....

I might be being a little dence but why would Andrew have to lose his title for Harry to give up his?

Because there would, quite rightly, be a massive outcry. Andrew is a non working royal, who, unlike Harry, has his security funded at £300,000 per year and still holds military patronages, of which Harry's were stripped.

Forgetting the sex offender friend issue... they are both non working royals. Why should one keep his whilst the other doesn't?

As for them asking for this, why should they when they are like Andrew, apart from the paedophile friend of course.
And I believe it takes parliament to sort it too.

So.... let's say he becomes just Prince Harry, instead of Duke of Sussex... do you honestly honestly think that would make any difference? Everyone knows who he is, it would be no difference at all.

So why not do it then? He seems to hate his family and the whole institution of royalty, so it's odd that he and his wife still insist on using their royal titles. When Princess Beatrice worked in New York, she went by Beatrice York. Sure, everyone knew she was the queen's granddaughter but she wasn't using her royal titles in her professional life. She certainly wasn't offerering inane opinions on the American constitution as Princess Beatrice of the United Kingdom. Why can't Harry do the same?

And say he did do that... what goalpost moving would there be then? Because they have done everything asked of them so far but it's never enough, so I presume they have to get new faces and move to the Amazon jungle where no one knows them or something 🤣

I hear Chunga Changa is nice this time of year. Harry could travel there by raft to meet up with his good friend Greta Thunberg and discuss the plight of the penguins stranded in Belarus.

@MmeLaraque

I agree, that bit was particularly true. Trolled on and on by people who haven't even listened to it. And have just picked on the DM clickbait and exploded

One thing I have noticed is that although Meghan has ghosted her father she hasn’t really criticised his parenting as far as I’m aware of - correct me if I’m wrong
Harry has complained his father won’t take his calls , has cut him of financially and caused him an emotionally damaged upbringing-( saying it wasn’t Charles s fault doesn’t stop the finger from firmly pointing in his direction ) we haven’t even got to the Apple TV thing - so he could be on a roll

Meghan has stepped back from attacking her own family - her sister has even written a book
But
The focus seems to be firmly on Charles and the faults in the royal family - ie Harry’s family

Because there would, quite rightly, be a massive outcry

Why would there be a massive outcry though that's the part that's confusing me?If+ actually imagine if Harry and Meghan asked for their titles to be removed they would receive a lot of support.

I really don't see how Andrew keeping his title is a reason in them asking for theirs to be removed?

So why not do it then?

I explained why above, as far as I'm concerned.

I hear Chunga Changa is nice this time of year. Harry could travel there by raft to meet up with his good friend Greta Thunberg and discuss the plight of the penguins stranded in Belarus

Clever! Not. Just silly and reminds me of all those penguin posters who made it their life's work to troll and hate.

For those being given a tough time on this thread for basically saying “he needs to know what it’s like when you can’t get a CAMHS Appt or Dr’s referral/counselling, I would say, that’s what’s starting to get on people’s nerves. A life of untold wealth and privilege and people opening doors for you, literally cannot compare to an ordinary life and mental health issues experienced by those living it.

Some famous person once said “Money doesn’t make you happy, but it helps”. I agree.

@Roussette

So.... let's say he becomes just Prince Harry, instead of Duke of Sussex... do you honestly honestly think that would make any difference? Everyone knows who he is, it would be no difference at all.

And say he did do that... what goalpost moving would there be then? Because they have done everything asked of them so far but it's never enough, so I presume they have to get new faces and move to the Amazon jungle where no one knows them or something 🤣

If he becomes just Prince Harry, then Meghan becomes Princess Harry though everyone outside the UK will call her Princess Meghan which will annoy the tabloid readers even more

If she doesn’t want anything to do with the RF, stick Meghan Mountbatten-Windsor on the front of the child’s book. She’s entitled to use DoS, but why do so?