Positive thread on Meghan again

[Mummy194]

Now that at the other knock off MN chat has been shut down, we seem to have an influx of those posters on here with new or encouraged accounts.

For those who are not interested in trawling through negative post after the other. You can come on here for positive news about Meghan and Harry.

Why not, everyone else seems to be viewed positively, without 'cynicism'. I don't mind taking this at snail pace, we just post on the good things about H&M, they sure seem to be doing a lot of that lately, and it's really buried under the negativity on MN.

Heya @DaveCoaches long time no see, how' u doin'?! (Said in a Joey from Friends voice!)

Agree on the interview, not great, but they had their say, and hey.... even two in their position can do that!

I talk twaddle as normal!

Great you could pop in!

I haven't seen the other (hopefully positive) threads, was not on them nor have written anything mean about any member of the royal family.

I genuinely do not understand why people jump on this particular bandwagon of negativity toward M&H. Hundreds of thousands of people went to Windsor to wish M&H well on their wedding day, 3 years ago. For a person (H) born into a life where you have privilege, yes, but your freedom of choice does not exist, he has done a remarkable job of trying to regain some control over his life, with the support of his wife. Why is that something that people have taken umbridge to? This thread isn't the place to discuss this really, it's a place to show support, what so bad about that?

So I was not too sure about which exact charities they are , but it looks like Archie's birthday are combined, and the even ends, end of May. So far, 4 charities.

@myotherusernameisonholiday

Like your post

We had a run of positive threads. They didn't always work out well but we tried.
Do stick around or pop in from time to time

Sorry, not sure why that is cutting and editing.

It's that Archie's birthday and baby shower have been combined.

@Roussette thank you, I like yours too 😁

I'm a fan of Harry and Meghan and don't really understand the vitrol against them.

@SunshineSuxx

The amount of sugar on this thread should come with a trigger warning.

^ this in spades.

Positive thread on Meghan again is the actual title of the thread so it's quite obviously meant to be a nice thread.

@SunshineSuxx

The amount of sugar on this thread should come with a trigger warning.

You could always just hide the thread from your feed and find one you can engage with.

I found the discussion on a previous interesting as it was helpful distraction from humdrum of daily life. I think it’s fair to say that some posters have very strong opinions and either side which can be very off-putting. I’ve long thought that the “heir and spare” approach is now quite archaic. And I do think if the royal family no longer have a constitutional role, Harry and Meghan have had a great head start and seem to be doing quite well despite the naysayers and are fast on their way to amass even more of own private wealth. It’s almost as though many people in the UK have been so accustomed to the royal family’s way of doing things that they forget that there are other ways of being “in service”. I researched into the Obama Foundation, they raise a lot and make a lot of money too. In those charitable foundations, how the money, which is not used for fundraising or for employee/admin costs, is utilized is more obscure in the States and if this is what Harry and Meghan want then I’d have thought that the general public would be happy not to pay for security because they can just their own way etc. But it seems a case of damned if you do, damned if you don’t.

Harry has some great qualities as does William, same can be said of Kate and Meghan. If they all had their passion projects, which didn’t somehow make it into some kind of competition, or Harry and now Meghan not remaining in the supporting role, but their own starring role, and perhaps even getting paid for it by doing their own thing it’s somehow possible some things can overshadow others without it being intentional. MSM sure loves to pit them against each other and people lap it up when the reality is that they’re all wealthy philanthropists each with their perfections and imperfections.

'The Royal Foundation has revealed that the book has raised a whopping £557,638 after selling over 130,000 copies'. All for Grenfell Tower Funds

'An amazing group of Girls Inc. girls joined The Duchess of Sussex, the leaders of Girls Inc., and @nwlc in a virtual roundtable to discuss a post-pandemic future that is equitable for every girl.'

Nmlc=national women's law Centre
www.harpersbazaar.com/celebrity/latest/amp36300210/meghan-markle-hosts-roundtable-with-young-women-activists/?__twitter_impression=true

Great post Exit. I agree with it.

The pitting one family against another, one woman against another, one brother against another is just the media's way of garnering clickbait and I, for one, am fed up with it!
It just causes division when there is always another way of leading your life. I get that people are pissed off that their Prince left, but hey... if they go down the philanthropic foundation route, where is the harm. The RF needs a mighty big shake up anyway.

I don't understand why people don't just ignore them if they dont like them. There are people in the public eye I really don't like, I avoid the press on them, and any thread on them. It's pretty easy to do. I know posters will say it's hard to avoid them if they wont shut up, It really is not hard at all ! Just don't seek out stories about them and write on a forum about it. Ignore.

And I do think if the royal family no longer have a constitutional role, Harry and Meghan have had a great head start and seem to be doing quite well despite the naysayers and are fast on their way to amass even more of own private wealth.

Yes, this is true. And I like that they are going on with their lives as best as possible for their little family.

It’s almost as though many people in the UK have been so accustomed to the royal family’s way of doing things that they forget that there are other ways of being “in service”.

What gets to me is the insincerity of this narrative. When H&M do anything it's all ' but the royals don't do that kind of thing'. Yet K&W will do exactly the same, and it's all praise and sayings of it was needed. What comes to mind are when H&M launched SR - which was ridiculous since KP site and SM already existed. Then the were the books, fashion capsule etc. Now the Youtube videos. When MM signed Netflix, it was all snide, 'they are trying to be Kardashians'. Yet, here we are with W&K and no word of 'Keeping up with the Kambrishians'. Instead it's all praise. By doing this, the British media are not endearing the RF to anyone who was not already a staunch Royalist.

If they all had their passion projects, which didn’t somehow make it into some kind of competition, or Harry and now Meghan not remaining in the supporting role

This is why I always say, if they had left H&M to get on with it, you would have an inclusive RF. Left, Right, Conservative, Liberal, all would be included. Currently, people feel they have to choose between the two. Also, if you see an overwhelming anti one side, you will naturally want to defend them. Whoever came up with the decision to divide was stupid af.

@Becles
The Grenfell project was such a great idea. That is a lot of money and there are a lot of muslims at the tower as well as the kitchen. The Muslim community does tend to feel a bit on the fringes of the community, so this shined a spotlight and helped a lot.

Thanks to this, The Hubb kitchen was fully renovated and went from opening a couple of days per week to a full week. During lockdown, MM was speaking to the women and they cook around 250-300 meals about 3 days a week from their homes.
You could say it went from drab to fab. Which is nice and welcoming for poor, displaced and homeless people.

While I disagree with there most recent actions I do hope they manage to live an independent life

May I take a seat @Mummy194 ?

@Roussette I would kill to be called Doria. That woman is my late mid-life/senior goals. Every time I look at a photo of her I swear to drink more water do more yoga. SMH.

I hate all the negative Harry and Megan bashing. It really dosnt matter what they do, the great British press will always bash them and they will always be used as scape goats.

I think Megan has been given such a rough time. She’s obviously from a very toxic family, made worse by the media publishing all her personal family issues all over the press, then add the nasty sister and father. Any other woman in her position on MN everybody would be encouraging her to go NC and protect herself. But because she’s a public figure she’s being ripped to shreds.

I think the RF or at least most did welcome her and I don’t think her race was an issue, if it was then I don’t think the RF would have let the relationship get so far. I think it was the establishment that’s the issue and the old boys network. Possibly someone in the family may not have been as welcoming but I certainly don’t think it was any key players. I think the establishment didn’t like her over shadowing the future Queen either so have done everything they can to make her look bad.

The biggest problem with Megan is she’s not one of them, by that I mean from the British aristocracy, or brought up to be very British. She’s a very independent strong American woman who dosnt have a problem challenging something she dosnt believe in and she’s not a conformist. Therefore she’s been targeted by the establishment. Unlike Kate who is the fairytale commoner who married a prince and will one day be queen.

Then there is Harry, his entire life has been played out for the world to see, not his choice, yes he had privilege and has been able to do things others can only dream about, but at a cost. His mum was literally hounded to death by the media when he was a child. He was forced to walk behind her coffin in front of the entire world when he didn’t want to. He’s been privy to the disgusting way his mother was treat by his own family because it’s been played out in the media his entire life unlike the rest of us who have no idea what most of our parents got upto before we were born. He was put in danger doing his job on the front line because of the media. His parentage has been the butt of jokes and speculation his entire life. Every move and mistake he’s ever made has been published to the world. He’s gradually been bumped down the royal line, something I suspect he’s actually great for for as it means he has had this chance to break away.

Now he’s sticking up for himself and his wife and children he is being destroyed by the media with what appears to be absolutely no support from his family. He should be entitled to speak out just like the rest of us. I wonder how many people who have slagged him off for the interview and defending his family would like their rights to free speech being taken away from them.

I really hope they do succeed in the US, I have always liked Harry’s empathy for others, I actually think he genuinely cares, like his mum did.

The link regarding the fundraising for Archies birthday and the baby shower - is that their “fans” (Sussex squad) that arrange all that? I do wonder why MM and/or H have never spoke out against some of the horrific things their fans say. Obviously they aren’t responsible for their fans but they have had ample opportunity to express that they don’t agree with their actions and that they would seek compassion and kindness instead and yet they never say anyway which I don’t understand.

I'm not sure starting this thread is actually helping.
It's almost more devisive than the general RF threads.
It encourages those on both sides to pick a team and run with it instead of seeing positives and negatives on both sides.
I have my own views about their (meaning all of them) behaviour but I'm so tired of the circular conversations that go one here.
It's not even as if people are trying to change peoples minds it's just a load of people with such entrenched views of how they view the same situation it's becoming extraordinarily weary.
I only feel sympathy for H&M on one count, that is that they don't deserve to be pilloried or praised nor can I imagine they want to.

And I say this as a non fan and non racist member of MN.

Just stop reacting (on both sides) and we might all gain a healthier perspective!!

In definitely joining in. Pretty tired of all the criticism of Meghan from salty people on here.
I do wish they had been able to make Canada work but when I saw H in front of that "global citizen" setup my fears were more allied. Although it is not my place to have fears in the first place!
They seem to be doing well. And both duchesses are publishing atm. Good for them

Hugh Grant tweeted this story about a fundraiser, friend of Harry’s, who was all but destroyed by the Daily Mail.

May I suggest that we never click on that website again. And it’s time MNHQ took a stand and barred the DM from lifting threads from here and publishing them.

This is a very sad story and I feel for the family.

twitter.com/hackedoffhugh/status/1390740963476258816?s=21

@JingsMahBucket and all other positive thinkers. A very warm welcome.

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lol. I will stop saying that eventually. It's just really nice on these first days of this thread.

Doria looks super fit and healthy doesn't she. Love her.

@AliceMcK
The biggest problem with Megan is she’s not one of them, by that I mean from the British aristocracy, or brought up to be very British. She’s a very independent strong American woman who dosnt have a problem challenging something she dosnt believe in and she’s not a conformist. Therefore she’s been targeted by the establishment. Unlike Kate who is the fairytale commoner who married a prince and will one day be queen.

What you are saying , reverberates on this video :

@JingsMahBucket Doria is as fit as a flea I think. Can't believe she's more or less my age, and here I am on a dieting thread on MN

@AliceMcK I so wish I wrote your post. It's spot on.

I agree I think the RF were superficially welcoming to MM. But anyone who has encountered racism might well have detected an undercurrent, and then add in the vile Princess Michael and the blackamoor brooch at the christmas lunch, and I imagine MM felt snubbed. Add in the culture differences, and it would have been unlikely to work.

But he married her, he loves her and you get one life, he wants to live it with her and well done him for not suffering in silence but deciding to protect his wife and baby and make a different, but no less worthy, life for him and them.

Personally, I, too, like Harry. I think he's his mother's son undoubtedly. He takes on the traits of caring and empathy. I recruited countless people within a caring organisation and I can tell empathy and sympathy as traits a mile off. I think that Diana would be proud of him.

I have nothing against William but I just don't see that in him, he is far more cold and haughty I think. I am not criticising him... who'd want his job, but I do find him closed, whereas I think Harry is a more open character. And that trait has landed H in hot water.

@Mummy194 That LBC clip. I saw what he read written down. It was even more powerful to read it. And so right.

@Velveteenchair I love Hugh. He just gets it. The DM is dangerous, causes divides and feeds hate. I never believe anything they say unless I can double check it elsewhere, because as that article proves they make up stories and ruin lives. Well Done Meghan for taking them to court and winning.

And well done the both of them for getting away from the ever more vitriolic gutter press of this country.