Positive thread on Meghan again

[Mummy194]

Now that at the other knock off MN chat has been shut down, we seem to have an influx of those posters on here with new or encouraged accounts.

For those who are not interested in trawling through negative post after the other. You can come on here for positive news about Meghan and Harry.

Why not, everyone else seems to be viewed positively, without 'cynicism'. I don't mind taking this at snail pace, we just post on the good things about H&M, they sure seem to be doing a lot of that lately, and it's really buried under the negativity on MN.

I posted here as I feel I can speak heather agreed with or not

I despair but carry on ...always

I'm not. I can only speak about what I know. It just seemed odd to come on and do a summary of this thread?

Yes, it did start out positive And yes it went downhill when there was an influx of posters not just discussing but sweeping statements like 'pay back for the wedding then' and 'stop discussing your family' and 'why can't they read the room and so on and so on..

That's not discussion of particular facts or posts. That's just throwing something in to be annoying!

I’m just bored with shouty people talking rubbish and refusing to accept another point of view,

I understand this. But just bear in mind that if I went on the Harry thread now and put my point of view, I would get my arse handed to my on a plate. The views are very entrenched on that thread.

So it really does work both ways.

I don't wish to be pedantic (but I obviously am)... I just don't think it's fair to blame Mummy for first bringing up PM of Kent. 'Twas me and I hold my hands up, guv!

And why it's relevant, I explained!

Love Meghans t-shirt in the trailer

Angiedx

Absolutely, you nailed it there.

Mummy
Roussette
Samcro
And many others thank you for your posts always

Thinking that it might be better for my health to go back to just lurking

Oh please don't be put off Angiedx

It's robust on here and can turn a tad unpleasant but we've got your back.

And more importantly, you've made some very valid points and I've enjoyed reading your posts.

If you go that means two really good posters feel they have to... you and Matriarch who also has been quality on here.

Am going to watch the mental health series with H and OW

I can recall so many nights sitting crying scared of the pain my own child was going through when I realised how bad their mental health had become

Despite having a degree in psychology I didn’t realise until it was almost too late

I am glad that the spectrum of those who talk of the issue is so much wider than the net cast by naysayers of those they deem worthy

Oh heck Angie how awful and how worrying. I just can't imagine. I had ten years talking to people with the darkest thoughts so I think to see it in your own child must've been heartbreaking.

That is why I will not decry MM for answering the question in SA and I could see how upset she was. And I will roundly critiicise anyone who tries to suggest she was making up her MH struggles when over here.

He has so so much better now thank you

It was heartbreaking but in the other side of it I am provided with more knowledge not only to recognise it but also to help to effect change

In part this is why Meghan is SA resonated so much with me I could see pain .

To hear her words dismissed so readily was and is abhorrent

Glad to hear he's better, and you know the signs.

I agree on the SA. I saw it live one night. And was gobsmacked when I came on here the next day and saw a lot of posts dismissing it.

It’s the same with the often othering I see of Meghan on here and in the wider media

I witness still today my very young child being othered (eg hair) and quickly work to not only stop it but also to point it out when it occurs.

Maybe also as a mixed race race woman I recognise many of the hurdles in our journey

Yes, and that's why we should feel able to call it out as much as we want to be without feeling we can't post.

I think often many not only fail to recognise but also accept that vilification of Meghan is seen through many different eyes. Including the eyes of those who have faced similar opposition albeit on a smaller scale.

Don’t speak the same language
Don’t look right
Not grateful

The power those words have to hurt those not only receiving them, Meghan, but also those watching, our daughters sons etc

I so agree.

All of that plus...
American
Actress
Stole a Prince and whisked him away

I loved suits so was already engaged

Funny how since a suits alumni joined I now know so much more of the RF of the country I have lived my whole life in 😆

Sometimes you need something or someone to get you through the door to the exhibit (RF) to get you to glance not only at the pictures but also to read what written beneath them

Will probably go back to just glancing up for a moment when I see them on tv in the future and remain detached somewhat .....except when there is a child’s history project to complete

@Angiedx

Mummy Roussette Samcro And many others thank you for your posts always

Thinking that it might be better for my health to go back to just lurking

Thanks. I have to admit there are days I really can't face posting. Thats why I like these threads, at least they are not all bad. Couldn't face posting on the H thread.

'Then more on Prince Michael and how bad he is and a few side swipes at other members of the Royal family, with a bit of piss taking of aristocratic titles for good measure. Then some slagging off of the DM and the Telegraph'

Yes the positivity and caring about others feelings does always seem so very selective doesn't it.

Anyway, as this thread is ending I'll be positive. I think it is great they are mental health advocates, I do hope this gives them the tools to recognise how talking so openly about family relationships may impact on other people's mh too.

Look outward not always inward would be a great start. That's positive imo.

I hope there will be another one.
I think there needs to be space for positivity.

'Stole a Prince and whisked him away'

Oh please. That's not very positive is it.

Perhaps she recognised a kindred damaged person and they are indeed soul mates. I hope they live happily every after, just please stop chucking the rf under the bus in the process.

@smilesy

I was just reading through this thread from the beginning. It did indeed start off as positive and the first 2 or 3 pages are positive comments or just posters saying hello. Then one of the “positive” posters starts to talk about Prince Michael and his misdemeanours. Not sure how that is positive about MM. Then a bit more positivity. Then more on Prince Michael and how bad he is and a few side swipes at other members of the Royal family, with a bit of piss taking of aristocratic titles for good measure. Then some slagging off of the DM and the Telegraph, by positive posters. Then a bit of a discussion on the wedding. Someone then mentions about M needing help with Her MH and being surprised that Harry couldn’t get her help. Discussion about why it was felt that M could have got help through her gynae in which many less than positive things were said by positive posters about the capability of professional gynaecologists to care for the mental health of their patients. OP has post deleted for some very unpleasant name calling. Then lots of to-ing and fro-ing in favour and against H&M. Disagreement about whitening products being racist. And so on. The last couple of pages before the comment from MNHQ were largely by positive posters being unpleasant towards anyone who did not agree with them. I agree that some of the arguments got out of hand and that there was unpleasantness from both sides, but it is disingenuous and untrue to blame all this on those who were not “positive” about H&M

That simply has to be the silliest thread summary I have every come across.

Ofcourse we are going to bring up other royals who are either left alone or praised for the same things that H&M do. So yes Prince Michael and other relatives will always be brought up. And now we are supposed to respect the DM and other tabloids who are the main ones thrashing H&M? Are you for real?

No one 'mention' MM's mh, posters outright questioned her, implying she was a liar.

There were no disagreements about whitening products as someone deciding it was another stick to pick out to bit MM with, when the same organisation has tanning products too.

There was no back and forth of name calling as much as anti MM posters were called out for coming on a positive thread about her to post nasty things about her.

You have lots of threads where you are nasty about MM, you don't have to come on here with your irrelevance !

janiie I think it was you saying #bekind, if not you, someone else who comes on here.

If you honestly think the other Harry thread is kind, you need to read it again!

And yes I will criticise Prince Michael of Kent, the man who sells access to Putin for £10,000 a day.

And there was not 'piss taking of aristocratic titles'. And that quote is pathetic!
I just said I didn't know there was an Earl of Reading! And this is classed as piss taking
smilesy needs to take a reality check for us having a joke with each other and calling it 'piss taking of aristocratic titles'
Pathetic. We were chewing the fat, that is all.

On the 'steal a prince' that's a common theme from posters who don't like them.

"Harry doesn't know what he's doing
He's under her control
He does what he's told"
Endless posts like this so obviously posters think she stole him away.

I hope there will be another one
I think there needs to be space for positivity.

I agree.

Yes the positivity and caring about others feelings does always seem so very selective doesn't it.

The thread to be positive about H&M, nothing about the tabloids and other detractors. They will be called out for what they do.

H said nothing that PC has not said before, and is well known, how the RF would feel hurt by the truth is beyond me. When did they say they were hurt anyway? This was all a repeat.

If they were stoic enough to allow all the hate on MM to go around like that for over 3yrs, they are surely stoic enough now for the truth to be retold.

Mummy, I would ignore your tirade apart from one thing that I cannot let pass. P&G make whitening products that are on sale in countries where “whiteness “ is seen as more attractive and dark skin is seen as less desirable is not the same as wanting a fake tan and you know it. Other companies, who may also make suntan products, have withdrawn these whitening products, but not P&G. This is a fact. I was not using it as a stick to beat anyone. As I said ad nauseam, I was merely illustrating the fact that it is difficult to hold high ideals and make deals with large companies. It is something that everyone who seeks to do this needs to consider.

'You have lots of threads where you are nasty about MM, you don't have to come on here with your irrelevance !'

Not aimed at me but I'm presuming I'm included. As I said earlier Sussex supporters were on DoC thread sneering so I do think you need to stop with the 'don't come on here with your irrelevance' comments. It works both ways.

I want to support them, I did in the beginning but can't bear their disrespectful and hurtful treatment of his family all because they weren't allowed to do what they wanted and the msm targeted them, as they do everyone tbh. Camilla could no doubt write a book about the bullying she endured.

And where is your diatribe on the queen with this company that she endorses.