Harry appointed senior exec at $1bn startup

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Just seen that Harry has been appointed Chief Impact Officer at a billion dollar valued Silicon Valley startup.
This feels so unfair. I know people who have worked for years first qualifying then gaining experience in their field, without a hope of a job like this. Harry of the 2 A levels and zero formal work experience outside of the army. He can bleat about the hardships of privilege all he wants but he’d never get near a job like this as a private “normal” citizen.

Andrew is vile, but because of the way he's gone to ground there is nothing to report... for the moment. That will hopefully change in the future. Also, everyone agrees he is awful. There's nothing to debate, basically.

@Roussette

Yes, I think I remember that. I think PPhilip was barbecuing in the back garden or something.

She left Charles and Anne and did a world commonwealth tour leaving them for 6 months or thereabouts when they were little. I imagine the guilt of that meant that when she had Andrew and Edward after a 10 year age age, meant she did it totally differently.

Oh come on, if someone on here said something saying they imagined happening, you’d be straight in there criticising them for speculating. We have no idea if the queen felt guilty or not. Lots of parents do things differently with different children and unexpectedly becoming monarch with two young children, within a decade of the second WW ending, was a very different time than when Andrew and Edward came along.

@Kokeshi123

Andrew is vile, but because of the way he's gone to ground there is nothing to report... for the moment. That will hopefully change in the future. Also, everyone agrees he is awful. There's nothing to debate, basically.

Agreed. However, many people always find it the only thing they can try to counterbalance their argument with because yes of course Andrew’s behaviour has been worse than Harry’s and Meghan’s.

@Roussette

I don't think anyone could argue that Andrew's financial dealings would stand up to scrutiny and he has certainly done plenty of things to damage the standing of the Royal Family. However, the Queen has continued to reward him with titles and fake jobs

Yes to this.

Not here trying to distract away from Harry. People will post what they want about him and Meghan. I am more comparing and contrasting with Andrew, the press, the RF and treatment by all of those.. When really... if you look at Andrew's Wiki page he has done far far far worse over the years.

If I was Harry I'd be pretty aggrieved about the fact that Andrew has had a free pass for decades.

Also posters talk of Beatrice, Eugenie, Charles, Camilla, the Queen, Ed Sophie etc on these threads. So if it meanders off onto talk about Andrew, tough!

People obviously approach this with their own preconceptions and biases (and I don't mean that as a swipe, confirmation bias is a real thing). The closest I have seen to an unbiased analysis on this topic however actually showed that Meghan and Harry's Oprah interview actually received less UK press coverage, and fewer consecutive front-page stories, than Prince Andrew's interview with Emily Maitlis. It obviously doesn't feel that way to someone who thinks the Meghan and Harry coverage is unjustified in the first place.

(it was also the Mail on Sunday who broke the whole Prince Andrew/Virginia Giuffre story in the first place).

Andrew should operate as a warning tale to Harry.

Excellent point.

@SowhyNot

I am genuinely puzzled. You have taken criticism from my post that wasn't there. Out in the press there are countless articles saying that the Queen felt some guilt at having to go to the Commonwealth countries for 6 months when her first two children were little. So after 10 years and when the next two came along she was able to enjoy them more. Seriously, there are so many news sources saying this.

Yet when I post exactly what is out there, I get jumped on for saying it.

Very confused here with your post.

Funnily enough when I made the same point about Harry could have been an Andrew on another thread I was deleted

You do get confused easily. I’ve noticed that before.

I see that the charity Himmah have said they initially didn’t want to say that The Royal Foundation gifted them £10k because they didn’t want people to be put off them due to an association with Meghan. If charities who are given money think that way, it can’t bode well for Harry and Meghan in the future; especially since Harry and Meghan have become even more unpopular in the U.K. since the donation. It’s a shame when they could have gone about things so differently and remained well liked.

Probably a fine balancing act Irma trying to moderate stuff about PA.

The point is fair tho - H should take it as a warning to be careful what he gets involved in for money and choose his new friends carefully.

@Cacacoisfarraige

Thinking of Prince Andrew, he was regarded as rather a dashing figure in his youth and dated a number of different ladies rather like Harry

But out of the Navy it all went to pot, trading on his connections for money, consorting with unsavoury individuals to avail of a lifestyle far beyond his own means.

Andrew should operate as a warning tale to Harry.

Yes there are some clear parallels.

You do get confused easily. I’ve noticed that before

What?

I was talking about your comment to do with the Queen and the four children. ???
You criticise me for saying something that is out there in countless news stories and then say I get confused easily. Why?

It's even worse that Andrew was a working member of the RF while he was doing all this dodgy stuff.
Harry isn't.

Thinking of Prince Andrew, he was regarded as rather a dashing figure in his youth and dated a number of different ladies rather like Harry

Same as Charles of course, think he was seen as a playboy when he was young.

Right well nobody can say we haven’t discussed Andrew now.

Maybe, who knows.

Thinking of Prince Andrew, he was regarded as rather a dashing figure in his youth and dated a number of different ladies rather like Harry

He's about the same age as me. Everyone fancied Harry back in the late 70s/early 80s

Andrew.
Harry wasn't born.

@merrymouse

I've never heard Andrew try to bad mouth his family either.

Because he and his family are financially dependent on his mother. It's not evidence of moral fibre.

Unlike his dear girlfriend/ wife / ex wife (however she thinks of herself) who tried to sell access to the RF through him for £500,000......... whose lack of moral fibre is all too evident .

Unlike his dear girlfriend/ wife / ex wife (however she thinks of herself) who tried to sell access to the RF through him for £500,000......... whose lack of moral fibre is all too evident That's true

@DogsSausages

Chief Impact Officer. Crikey that sounds fun.

I wonder what the Under Impact Officer does, because you really wouldn’t want to make the Chief Impact Officer look bad by being all proactive and bushy tailed would you

Under Impact Officer Diary

Monday

Long weekend at beach house but if anything urgent comes up don’t hesitate to contact me for a caring tweet or a witty meme.

Tuesday

am out of office

Pmout of office

Wednesday

Lunch with very important influencer (to be confirmed)

Thursday

Checking Instagram and Twitter all day. No calls unless you know who.

Friday

Out of office.

@derxa

Unlike his dear girlfriend/ wife / ex wife (however she thinks of herself) who tried to sell access to the RF through him for £500,000......... whose lack of moral fibre is all too evident That's true

I can't remember the story behind that but I suspect that is the reason why the RF decided that a part-time half in, half out approach for H&M wasn't happening.

I'm sure they're were accusations of Sophie trying to cash in on Royal connections too at one point.

More than accusations - she was caught on tape by the News of the World's "Fake Sheikh" being critical of Cherie Blair, accusing John Major's office of leaking things about the Royal Family to bury bad news, and generally sharing lots of political views. Her business partner was even more damaging - he was taped talking about how Sophie's clients could use her position in the Royal family to their benefit (and all about his drugs habits, too). Yet another good reason for the Queen to think that it's impossible to walk the line between being senior Royal and having your own independent business interests.

Harry's already been caught out by one prank sting - Russian radio DJs pretending to be Greta Thunberg - so they are probably quite lucky that the News of the World is now defunct.