Harry appointed senior exec at $1bn startup

[porcelaine]

Just seen that Harry has been appointed Chief Impact Officer at a billion dollar valued Silicon Valley startup.
This feels so unfair. I know people who have worked for years first qualifying then gaining experience in their field, without a hope of a job like this. Harry of the 2 A levels and zero formal work experience outside of the army. He can bleat about the hardships of privilege all he wants but he’d never get near a job like this as a private “normal” citizen.

@merrymouse

Bottom line there is not the appetite to discuss Andrew that there is to dig up stuff on M&H.

It’s interesting that there isn’t more outrage, but I suspect it’s because he isn’t doing much so the media is ignoring him.

There was plenty of outrage over that interview with PA, even Q couldn't bluff it out for long and he was stood down. It was talked about a lot on MN.

Like @didofido said, he hasn't been in any court yet, there'll be plenty more outrage if/when he does and when GM case comes up.

But this thread isn't about him and the defender-distracters are just trying to get ppl to shut up about Harry and his hypocrisy.

Royal Male

😂..groan

@Roussette

f you want to get angry about royals, then Prince Andrew is right there, hiding in plain sight while Meghan is front and centre, being slated for having the tenacity to be mentally unwell in a supposedly unacceptable way

This

Unfortunately not much happens on threads for Andrew, I have many a time resuscitated past ones, but they don't get that much traffic.

And to my mind, on the M&H threads posters are forever regurgitating old stuff about the couple, yet aren't bothered about Andrew's history and the past. And there's a lot.

Bottom line there is not the appetite to discuss Andrew that there is to dig up stuff on M&H.

Maybe this will change when Ghislaine Maxwell goes on trial this summer.

I for one think Andrew deserves to have the book thrown at him. However he is not constantly leaking pathetic excuses through friends or whining about how ‘Mummy took my patronages away’. He’s been forced to shut up and hide away. So that’s all good. M and H however continue to embarrass themselves and their families, blame everyone for everything that is wrong in their lives and behave with spite and vindictiveness.

@Roussette

f you want to get angry about royals, then Prince Andrew is right there, hiding in plain sight while Meghan is front and centre, being slated for having the tenacity to be mentally unwell in a supposedly unacceptable way

This

Unfortunately not much happens on threads for Andrew, I have many a time resuscitated past ones, but they don't get that much traffic.

And to my mind, on the M&H threads posters are forever regurgitating old stuff about the couple, yet aren't bothered about Andrew's history and the past. And there's a lot.

Bottom line there is not the appetite to discuss Andrew that there is to dig up stuff on M&H.

Maybe this will change when Ghislaine Maxwell goes on trial this summer.

The thing with Andrew is that everyone pretty much agrees he should be off helping the FBI with their enquiries, we all have a reasonable idea what kind of stuff he has been implicated in, and I don’t think there’s much disagreement about any of it. So while he stays low profile, there is not much more to say (I’d probably be deleted here if I spelt it all out anyway).

I think he is pretty much being forced to stay low profile, though (see Beatrice’s wedding for eg) and I’m delighted that that is probably annoying him while we all wait for this to shake out.

A thread about Andrew would all be a bit “signed and shared” though. I mean, does anyone have a different take on that situation?

But this thread isn't about him and the defender-distracters are just trying to get ppl to shut up about Harry and his hypocrisy.

I wouldn't criticise anyone on this thread - If it's OK to get worked up about parking or whether tea is a drink or a meal, it's OK to get worked up about Harry.

However, I find it interesting that the press gets so worked up about Harry. The deal of Royalty is that you get what you get. The Queen has very much demonstrated this with her treatment of Andrew, not just now but for years. Whether or not you believe Andrew is guilty of abuse, I don't think anyone could argue that Andrew's financial dealings would stand up to scrutiny and he has certainly done plenty of things to damage the standing of the Royal Family. However, the Queen has continued to reward him with titles and fake jobs.

On the other hand what has Harry done? Complained a bit? Maybe I'm just old, but he doesn't seem to have done anything nearly as scandalous or morally dubious as previous generations, and if you don't like him, I'm not sure what more he could do than leave.

Is there just more demand for click bate?

I know some people on this thread would say "duh - it's racism", but the last time I can remember the press being this deranged was when they demanded that a grieving family should parade their grief for the nation.

The thing with Andrew is that everyone pretty much agrees he should be off helping the FBI with their enquiries, we all have a reasonable idea what kind of stuff he has been implicated in, and I don’t think there’s much disagreement about any of it.

You are probably right.

If we all agree, there isn't much to say. You can only say the same things over and over again.

However, that doesn't explain the odd Daily Mail story, unless the point is to make you click and find out whether it has more information about the abuse accusations.

However, that doesn't explain the odd Daily Mail story, unless the point is to make you click and find out whether it has more information about the abuse accusations.

I’m not going to click it since @Roussette has already provided a summary but it sounds like one of the DM’s “we see you” articles. They often do them when there is a situation brewing or there is something that they are sitting on that can’t yet be published. I don’t normally approve of the DL much but I’m glad they’re watching him.

I don't think anyone could argue that Andrew's financial dealings would stand up to scrutiny and he has certainly done plenty of things to damage the standing of the Royal Family. However, the Queen has continued to reward him with titles and fake jobs

Yes to this.

Not here trying to distract away from Harry. People will post what they want about him and Meghan. I am more comparing and contrasting with Andrew, the press, the RF and treatment by all of those.. When really... if you look at Andrew's Wiki page he has done far far far worse over the years.

If I was Harry I'd be pretty aggrieved about the fact that Andrew has had a free pass for decades.

Also posters talk of Beatrice, Eugenie, Charles, Camilla, the Queen, Ed Sophie etc on these threads. So if it meanders off onto talk about Andrew, tough!

@RickiTarr

However, that doesn't explain the odd Daily Mail story, unless the point is to make you click and find out whether it has more information about the abuse accusations.

I’m not going to click it since @Roussette has already provided a summary but it sounds like one of the DM’s “we see you” articles. They often do them when there is a situation brewing or there is something that they are sitting on that can’t yet be published. I don’t normally approve of the DL much but I’m glad they’re watching him.

The RF’s PR will then throw the press a few crumbs and PA will be left alone

Oh yes... this is managed extremely well by the RF PR team.

Why is just the american press that has the current story that Ghislaine Maxwell has petitioned to have the original pic of Andrew with arm around VG. Funny that...
RF PR probably told the press they could have the pic of Andrew on the horse in Windsor Great Park with the daffodils... instead.

Anyway, I'll keep quiet now before I get accused of stopping talk about Harry.
Just wanted to say that there is a current story out there. It's not getting reported though.

@RickiTarr

However, that doesn't explain the odd Daily Mail story, unless the point is to make you click and find out whether it has more information about the abuse accusations.

I’m not going to click it since @Roussette has already provided a summary but it sounds like one of the DM’s “we see you” articles. They often do them when there is a situation brewing or there is something that they are sitting on that can’t yet be published. I don’t normally approve of the DL much but I’m glad they’re watching him.

I read the Daily Mail website every day. This new article is the latest 'we're watching you' article. How do people know about Andrew's misdeeds in the first place? Yes that's right through investigative journalism. The comments on Andrew are universally critical.

However, I find it interesting that the press gets so worked up about Harry. The deal of Royalty is that you get what you get. The Queen has very much demonstrated this with her treatment of Andrew, not just now but for years. Whether or not you believe Andrew is guilty of abuse, I don't think anyone could argue that Andrew's financial dealings would stand up to scrutiny and he has certainly done plenty of things to damage the standing of the Royal Family. However, the Queen has continued to reward him with titles and fake jobs.

On the other hand what has Harry done? Complained a bit? Maybe I'm just old, but he doesn't seem to have done anything nearly as scandalous or morally dubious as previous generations, and if you don't like him, I'm not sure what more he could do than leave.

I know the royalists on the thread will disagree but I think the basic problem is we have an over privileged family at the top of our society, setting a tone of anti-egalitarianism. They do very well out of this state of affairs, financially and socially and so we don’t like to see them taking the piss.

We also have absorbed all kinds of weird folk wisdom about the monarchy (more of it generated with each big crisis) so it’s a bit like marriage: Half contract and half superstition.

So on the one hand, it annoys some of us when they exploit their good fortune too much (which lots of them do constantly - always more stuff about milk adverts and offshore funds coming out).

Secondly, there are the people who have really strongly absorbed the message (from the abdication, or Diana’s death, or Victoria’s long mourning period or something Henry VIII did or whatever...) that divorced Americans are a Very Bad Thing for our monarchy, or that the Queen should emote on demand or whatever.

Then thirdly and fourthly, you have the ardent Royalists, who support the monarchy on principle and/or worship the BRF regardless of what they do and the newest tribe, the Meghan Markle superfans, who worship MM regardless of what she does.

It’s not exactly surprising that there are different views and disagreements.

www.dailywire.com/news/ghislaine-maxwells-attorneys-seeking-original-photo-of-accuser-with-prince-andrew-and-a-pair-of-cowboy-boots?%3Futm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=dwtwitter

I read the Daily Mail website every day. This new article is the latest 'we're watching you' article. How do people know about Andrew's misdeeds in the first place? Yes that's right through investigative journalism. The comments on Andrew are universally critical.

Can’t argue with that. Don’t like DM’s politics but they are providing a service on this one.

@Roussette

That Andrew, he gets away with everything.
I remember you posting developments on the Andrew thread, and either posters excused him with the ol 'no charges yet', or just ignored it. No comments on the FBI bus driving around in front of BP, calling for him. He was busy volunteering during the pandemic with no PPI, he never gets slated.

Ofcourse he has nothing to moan about, mummy made sure he keeps his HRH, pays his security and bails him out on his 2nd home worth millions. Well over a year, later not only is he listed by his patronages, but the RF site also lists him as patron. So, yes a sweet deal, wouldn't moan at all.

In the meantime, his victims are still campaigning against him. The FBI still wants him for questioning.

So yes, plenty for people to post over and over again how he is greedy, man child, pantomime villain , spiteful, disrespectful and vindictive (to his victims), I think there was also some batman analogy? whatever you nauseating little label you throw at H&M. Plenty of material to go over and over again.

The thing with Andrew is that everyone pretty much agrees he should be off helping the FBI with their enquiries, we all have a reasonable idea what kind of stuff he has been implicated in, and I don’t think there’s much disagreement about any of it.

Pretty much sums it up. He was retired off, made keep a low profile. Before all the Epstein stuff came out I was sure he and Fergie were getting ready to remarry that talk all seems to have gone quiet.

Like Harry he was stupid to lie in a TV interview it was analysed to death at the time. He tried and failed to defend himself he didn't attempt to throw mud at his own family.

What is it with these men that make them think that lying in front of cameras won't be found out?

What is it with these men that make them think that lying in front of cameras won't be found out?

Upbringing. If i has been spoilt and pandered to all my life and told I was a special magical thing called a “Princess” I’d be a overconfident arsehole too. 😂🤣

Yes indeed derxa Another american site Daily Wire. And it's in Washington Examiner.

Daily Mail and Investigative journalism simply do not go together.

What is it with these men that make them think that lying in front of cameras won't be found out?

Must be a shock to the system when you've spent your life having people grovelling to you just because of your name to find out there's a limit to the shit ppl will take!

so it’s a bit like marriage: Half contract and half superstition

Agree superstition/belief - ppl seem to need a figurehead, don't think any country's managed to do without (happy to be corrected) and that requires them to give the figurehead a sort of god-like position of impeccability but if they break the 'contract' they become human again.

What is it with these men that make them think that lying in front of cameras won't be found out?
Both Harry and Andrew are spoilt and entitled. People have indulged them all their lives. They both seem to think they deserve to live in a very grand style without paying for it. Both have been guilty of money grubbing from some dodgy people.
Obviously Andrew's behaviour has been far worse than Harry's. But Andrew has always shown loyalty to his birth family and Harry has shown none at all.

setting a tone of anti-egalitarianism.

I think it's worse than that - I think the tone is toxic abusive relationship.

I can guess why the Queen has protected and promoted Andrew - a mixture of love and guilt. However, because her role as Queen can't be disentangled from her personal relationships, his role as official representative of the country is only temporarily 'on hold', he has been given more and more unsuitable jobs, and it seems has been protected from the legal consequences of his actions.

Meanwhile the press hold the Royal Family to impossible standards, the Royal Family depends on the press to stay relevant, and each side knows that press coverage depends on a certain amount of scandal and outrage, even if its only manufactured outrage at avocados.

@merrymouse

This article is about the King of Sweden’s decision 2019 decision to remove grand children not in the the direct line of succession from the Royal Household. He is a similar age to Prince Charles, but of course can make this kind of change because he is the actual King.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-49958085

I wonder how many RF problems are caused by the fact that there are 3 adults sort of doing the top job, but 2 of them can’t make decisions and only 1 of them is below retirement age. It must make communication difficult.

I think you could be right that having more than one at the top isn't helping. PC must be doing more of the Queens work.

A couple of years ago I was thinking HMQ would retire this summer at 95. Not so much abdicate but officially allow Charles Prince Regent status.
But that was before the H&M whoo haa and the pandemic. They can't really have any big parades in the middle of a pandemic.