Meghan and Kate

[Amwantingbasement]

I only watched about 25 mins and then switched off. Am sure MM felt exactly as she described. But what I did feel was odd (apart from the whole Archie should have had a title so he had protection when none of the Wessex or York kids have government protection - it was withdrawn a while back) was her comment on the Kate situation. She said “Kate was upset. Kate made me cry. Yes it was about bridesmaid dresses.” Then a story came out 7 months later about how MM had made KM cry which was apparently false.

As soon as she relayed the story it made me think - but why was Kate upset? Had you (perhaps inadvertently) upset her? Maybe the story was true - you had made her cry. Obviously what was missing was the fact MM had been made to cry by Kate. But I don’t think the story that was being peddled was necessarily incorrect.

Did anyone else think the same?

I don’t think the same. Why would Kate cry? She wasn’t stressed out with wedding plans. She had only to show up and be supportive of Megan’s choices for HER wedding.

I think they probably both cried, someone in Kate service leaked it to the press, only telling part of the story.

The important questions are: why leak half a story, what is the agenda.

In regard to security: the wessex children are further down the line, so not as important. Not as much as a target. You can’t compare the two.
However Beatrice and sister, did did have protection paid for until 18 I think.

But she said Kate was upset about something and then said something that made MM cry. Kate had also just had a baby. Guess we will never know - should have been kept out of press anyway.

But I don’t think the story that was being peddled was necessarily incorrect.
It’s a half truth though, and leave you with the feeling that Meghan is the aggressor, leave you believing she not a nice person.

People are so separate to see Kate as some sort of saint. Her people would have leaked this story, it certainly didn’t come from M

Desperate

I guess the question why was it leaked that Meghan made Kate cry? Did she? Or was it a complete fabrication?

Understand - but maybe no one knew MM cried and maybe Kate just sent the flowers because she felt uncomfortable and thought maybe she had upset her? Anyway - should never have been released and I can understand MM frustration - but perhaps MM did make Km cry and she never knew that (and still doesn’t).

I guess why didn’t Oprah ask “and do you know why KM was upset?” But of course, she didn’t ask that question.

Sad isn’t it. Sounds like they both made their own peace over it, moved on, and yet the press wanted to sell crap papers. Could have been so different 😞

I felt that MM was complaining that there were lies about her in the press and no one corrected them e.g Kate’s press office could issue a statement that it’s a lie and Megan didn’t make her cry. I suppose in a way it sounds like teens quarrels but I felt that MM was upset that nothing was done about press’s attitude towards her whereas something could be done by the royal family.

I didn’t particularly like her mentioning this. Any family has lots of tensions before the big events. However the context is everything and that was printed many months after the wedding and by that time there were a lot of bad press about MM and no one tried to stop it somehow.

@Amwantingbasement

Why are you so keen to see Kate as the victim?

Kate made M cry. Something about dresses at a time everyone was stressed. Because M was upset by K, K got upset. Everyone calmed down and appropriate apologies were given.

Then some little s£&t from Kate’s team decided K or W might be criticised for something, or they needed a distraction, so a half truth was leaked to the press.

So you have a woman a few weeks post partum and a woman marrying into the royal family arguing about tights for bridesmaids they probably BOTH got stressed and cried Kate apologised sent flowers and they are over it

So why bring it up? Maybe because someone said it was all her fault? It seems such a non issue

We’re talking about grown women, not 6 year olds “making each other cry”!

It was a stressful situation, there was some disagreement about bloody bridesmaid dresses, they made up again and Kate sent flowers. How ridiculous that this is being treated like a news story and that the media used it to paint Meghan as some awful meany.

As soon as she relayed the story it made me think - but why was Kate upset? Had you (perhaps inadvertently) upset her?

So your automatic assumption to Kate upsetting MM was what did MM do to deserve / cause it? Do you ask that to other people?
Friend: DH was horrid last night and made me cry.

You: Oh, what did you do to make him upset you?

Kate was just over 3 weeks after giving birth to Louis.

@Freddiefox

People are so separate to see Kate as some sort of saint. Her people would have leaked this story, it certainly didn’t come from M

Her people ????

@Snowball70

Yes Kate’s people, certainly didn’t come from Meghan’s employers.

They both probably cried and got their knickers in a twist. Pre wedding nerves, Kate was possibly advising her and giving her a heads up.
Why MM needed to mention it is beyond me, especially as they put it behind them.

No one can ever know the full truth of anything apart from those present, even then the view can be very subjective because of people's feelings on the day, what else is happening which may make something small become huge in one person's mind and not another's. Accusations based on she said/ she said should always be taken with a pinch of salt.

@SleepingStandingUp

As soon as she relayed the story it made me think - but why was Kate upset? Had you (perhaps inadvertently) upset her?

So your automatic assumption to Kate upsetting MM was what did MM do to deserve / cause it? Do you ask that to other people?
Friend: DH was horrid last night and made me cry.

You: Oh, what did you do to make him upset you?

Exactly!

I think one person doesn’t ‘make’ another cry. One person may cry in response to another’s behaviour (and any concomitant stressors/environmental factors) but all this talk of ‘she made her cry’ reminds me of my primary age children’s squabbles.

Apart from that though, I would have thought many women arranging weddings shed some tears at some point - I’ve never been married but my friends seemed to find it all very stressful. Ditto post birth of third child. Also extended families arranging any situation - in my experience very likely to involve sharp words and/or tears. Not to mention the added extras of their particular circumstance.

So I’m not surprised they exchanged words and one or both cried - that seems to be a total non-event to me. How and why it was initially reported on is a bigger matter though.

In the Oprah interview this was discussed in a wider context of the British press pitching one against the other, with Meghan as the villain. The press have behaved appallingly towards her. Partly because she's American and partly because she's a woman of colour. It suits their narrative to have a saint and a sinner.

everyones narrative suits their own agenda.... even on here