Meghan and Kate

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I only watched about 25 mins and then switched off. Am sure MM felt exactly as she described. But what I did feel was odd (apart from the whole Archie should have had a title so he had protection when none of the Wessex or York kids have government protection - it was withdrawn a while back) was her comment on the Kate situation. She said “Kate was upset. Kate made me cry. Yes it was about bridesmaid dresses.” Then a story came out 7 months later about how MM had made KM cry which was apparently false.

As soon as she relayed the story it made me think - but why was Kate upset? Had you (perhaps inadvertently) upset her? Maybe the story was true - you had made her cry. Obviously what was missing was the fact MM had been made to cry by Kate. But I don’t think the story that was being peddled was necessarily incorrect.

Did anyone else think the same?

I’d love to know what’s so controversial about fairly standard flower girl dresses that it made EITHER of them cry, tbh.

I don’t remember when it was reported first, that people were saying “what did Kate do to make Meghan so upset that she got angry with her” it was all clearly stated as Meghan fault.
Now the tables have turned on the story, people are still finding a way to blame Meghan, “what did she do to upset Kate in the first place?”
It’s so unfair really and completely plays into the idea that Meghan can’t do anything right

It is easy to see how a crying situation could happen coming up to a wedding, esp a royal one. Things I read indicated the problem was that the dress did not fit Charlotte - so it is not unreasonable to think Kate may have been fed up about that and having to schedule more fittings, and that Meghan may have gotten upset. No biggie really, one of those things that happens and you get over. Sounds like they had. As for the saint and the sinner, although there was no racial aspect and I think the tone has been much nastier, some of the press reminds me of what happened with Diana and Fergie.

Jesus Christ it's not like either of them have jobs.

I think this whole debacle shows why the whole royal family should be abolished. Poor Should of been allowed to see a doctor for mental health problems. No we as tax payers shouldn’t be paying for security and yes MM and Harry should be cut off from money. If I left a job I wouldn’t expect them to still pay me a wage. The whole thing just shows how out of touch ALL the royals are! There’s people who are worried about how to feed their kids and how to keep a roof over their head, it’s all so entitled and I can’t be done with drama after drama bloody who’s made who cry and a pedo Prince!

@PatchworkElmer

I’d love to know what’s so controversial about fairly standard flower girl dresses that it made EITHER of them cry, tbh.

One wanted tights/socks so the shoes wouldn't rub the other didn't? It should have been a non issue an emotional outburst best left in the past

I think she was right about the press pitting her & Kate against each other & Meghan coming off worse. They did similar to Diana & Fergie with Fergie getting the worse coverage. Taking cheap shots at celebrities is what the media does all the time.

Two grown women. Both wealthy both living lives of incredible privilege arguing over fucking TIGHTS. 😂😂😂

Sorry about the grammar I should of proof read 😬

@Tlollj

Two grown women. Both wealthy both living lives of incredible privilege arguing over fucking TIGHTS. 😂😂😂

It’s worse than that. Its turned into them arguing about arguing about tights. Remind me why we are supposed to care about these people?

We're just moving this over to The Royal Family topic.

Kate and Meghan not interesting. That was just big wedding drama

Eugenie and Meghan that is the interesting relationship 😉

@Lordamighty

I think she was right about the press pitting her & Kate against each other & Meghan coming off worse. They did similar to Diana & Fergie with Fergie getting the worse coverage. Taking cheap shots at celebrities is what the media does all the time.

True remember fergie being called a fat pig? Diana was always the "queen of hearts" the "peoples princess" when she died she became a Saint instead of the reality of a flawed human being like the rest of us she has been pushed into sainthood

One was getting married in front of the world. The other was three weeks post-partum.

Let’s give them both a break!

@Toilenstripes

I don’t think the same. Why would Kate cry? She wasn’t stressed out with wedding plans. She had only to show up and be supportive of Megan’s choices for HER wedding.

Well Kate was I think only a week or so post giving birth to Louis. To me it sounds like a little bit of a fraught situation, Meghan stressed about the wedding and everything going on with her father, Kate tired from a very very newborn baby (plus we know her pregnancies are difficult). It sounds like it could easily have been a situation where someone snapped and someone else cried. I wouldn’t find it hard to believe either way, but I think it’s more likely that Meghan cried, given what’s been said.

Kate had given birth a couple of weeks earlier.

It was the week or two in the build up to Megan’s wedding.

You’ve only got to read some of the post part and bridal threads on here to realise that tensions may have been high in both sides.

I think the truth is likely to be somewhere in the middle, they were both upset and maybe both cried at some point.

I hope Megan feels better for getting her ‘side of the story’ across, it doesn’t change my opinion of either of them, and I think it was really nice of Kate to send flowers and a note to try and smooth things over. Having been in Megan’s position of knowing the stress of being days away from a huge wedding in front of the world, I’m sure she had a lot of empathy for her.

I think we had tears on both sides when this situation arose in DH's family

@SleepingStandingUp

As soon as she relayed the story it made me think - but why was Kate upset? Had you (perhaps inadvertently) upset her?

So your automatic assumption to Kate upsetting MM was what did MM do to deserve / cause it? Do you ask that to other people?
Friend: DH was horrid last night and made me cry.

You: Oh, what did you do to make him upset you?

This.

Theunamedcat Diana was the Queen of Hearts & Fergie was dubbed the Duchess of Pork because of her weight. It was really cruel & misogynistic, which is what has happened in this case.
Two women who the press have decided to place on opposing sides for no good reason.

I actually don’t think it’s a stupid thing to argue over bridesmaids or pageboys shoes at a wedding. If the kids who were part of the wedding party cried over their uncomfortable shoes on the day or then possibly refused to take part (or they were forced to take part while feeling miserable) their behaviour could have been reported on in the press which would be horrible.
It’s a small example of the tensions there can be at weddings, no idea if or how it happened or not at this particular wedding but as a parent of young kids it’s the kind of thing you’d be trying to make as easy and fuss-free as possible on the day.

@Toilenstripes I don’t think the same. Why would Kate cry? She wasn’t stressed out with wedding plans. She had only to show up and be supportive of Megan’s choices for HER wedding.

wedding was 18th May 2018 and Prince Louis was born 23rd April 2018 so chances are Catherine was heavily pregnant at the time. I imagine she was stressed out with her own issues.

@DarthWeeder yes this is what I thought. It must be massively stressful preparing for a royal wedding. Equally, Kate had just had a baby and any emotion is allowed when you are post natal.

I did think that Meghan could have acknowledged that, rather than make it sound like ONLY she was struggling at the time. After all she is not the only person under pressure and with a lot on her plate.

@Longdistance

They both probably cried and got their knickers in a twist. Pre wedding nerves, Kate was possibly advising her and giving her a heads up. Why MM needed to mention it is beyond me, especially as they put it behind them.

Maybe because she is constantly being berated for being a bully and this is story is constantly being used against her. Why shouldn’t she defend herself???

Freddiefox Tue 09-Mar-21 19:05:02

The Wessex children are entitled to HRH titles as they are grand children of a monarch. At the moment Archie is not a grandchild of the monarch.

You can't be part of a system which place you on a pedestal above 'normal' people and then complain about the rules when they are not used in your favour.

Incidentally, I had my children in a private London hospital. Not the Portland but very similar. The level of care was incredible and covered all aspects of mental health and support at home. I am astonished that Meghan wasn't able to access mental health support through her maternity provision. Maternity staff are trained to look out for these types of problems as being pregnant can be so difficult for many women.

I thought Kate cried, or was more prone to crying, because she was still wobbly about William sleeping with Rose while she was pregnant with Louis. Allegedly. Also, she was - allegedly - jealous of the attention being given to the - again allegedly - much more attractive and charismatic Meghan. Obviously, not a good cocktail for Kate, to be completely fair to her, even without being postpartum.