Harry and Meghan - everyone still being respectful please

[Oldbutstillgotit]

Lots still to talk about .

@Royalinsider

However it seemed that on some of really positive opportunities, they made them negative. Africa was a big one. What were the other positive opportunities they made negative? The Africa tour was overshadowed but still positive, the documentary aired after. They have had excellent projects, looked at what needed to be done, came up with a solution and got excellent results - in a way that other royals haven't. Meghan has that great American ability of showing an organisation how to make some money so that they can support themselves. So much more important than a photo opportunity. She will be a big loss.

Are we just making stuff up now? 🤷🏼‍♀️

There's a big difference between a 'reality show' and trying to liken that to anything they might show their faces in.

A reality show is like Katie Price with her endless open up her life to anyone series. Or Love Island. Or Sarah Ferguson in 'Dancing with Horses' due to be shown on Fox network in US.

I agree about Doria Rousette.

Would it be okay to discuss Thomas Markle and any work he does?
If we include Carole Middleton in that too?!

I just find it a bit unnecessary but that's me.

@Roussette

Would it be okay to discuss Thomas Markle and any work he does? If we include Carole Middleton in that too?!

I just find it a bit unnecessary but that's me.

She's discussed plenty. The Middleton's were worked over for years - latest in the Kate Tatler profile. Glad to see you're prepared to get up in arms about that too.

It is unmentionable to discuss a new job she has?

Of course not. It's what it descends into quite possibly.

Is it an actual care home where Doria is in charge?
Or is it an holistic care management company?

I don't think it's right that either of them are picked over. That's what I meant.

@Royalinsider

I am stunned that you continually compare M&H to actual, working royals. Who cares if Charles and the Queen have had TV crews following them? Did they do that for a mega payout from Netflix? No. And it was only in order to highlight the work they do for us, not to glorify themselves.

And I am truly agog that you think Meghan has achieved things that other royals haven’t. Have you never heard of the Duke of Edinburgh’s Awards? the Prince’s Trust? Heads Together? Meghan wrote a forward to a cookbook she had no hand in creating & “designed” some clothes that a few people were given for free. Big whoop. Oh, and donated £10 a month for a dog kennel in a shelter - sadly not occupied by the dog she abandoned in Canada.

And, lets knock one fictitious narrative on the head right now...that poor Harry was desperate to leave the royal family and dear Meghan gave him his wings. That the sainted duo fought for and won their blessed freedom and went and found their happy ending.

Awww.

Bullshit. Read their presumptuous manifesto again. Nowhere, literally nowhere, did they say they didn’t want to be working royals anymore. They still wanted the tours, the spot on the balcony, the free house, the adulation and crowds. They just wanted all that part time so that they could use their unearned and undeserved platform & titles to make themselves some money...the £2m a year from Charles wasn’t enough, evidently. They also didn’t want to be covered by journalists they didn’t like.

And they were told to fuck off, quite rightly.

Spin, spin, spin all you like - but these two are a walking disaster, puffed up with their own egos and sense of entitlement, and most people can see that.

Brilliant post NoFoxToGive

One thing I’ve been pondering if criticism of them is based on racism (as has sometimes been alleged), why do they get such a hard time on Lipstick Alley? Some comments on there make this place look positively glowing in comparison!

The press have done a lot of digging into Carole Middleton's business over the years. I remember ridiculous headlines about hervselling jubilee decorations in 2012 or baby shower stuff when George was born. She'd be a pretty crap businesswoman if she hadn't sold that kind of thing. It says a lot about her that they can barely find an employee to say a bad word about her.

I know. Don't agree with it.

And I am truly agog that you think Meghan has achieved things that other royals haven’t. Have you never heard of the Duke of Edinburgh’s Awards? the Prince’s Trust? Heads Together? Prince Charles has done documentaries on The Duchy of Cornwall. People actually have to compete to get new tenancies in the Duchy. A young couple who were going into farming for themselves and got a tenancy. They were delighted and I could see why. They got a beautifully maintained farmstead with new sheds. The couple got the tenancy because they wanted to farm organically. PC does work that enables people to lead better lives despite all of his personal faults.

PC has done some meaningful things over the years. The Prince's Trust has done a lot for young people over the years. Dh has no interest in the royals but attended a charity dinner for it and was impressed at the work that was being done. Big companies aren't going to show up and pay for tables at these things in the long term if it's not a respected charity. Apparently PW has no interest in taking over from him, which is sad.

@derxa i watched that, found it fascinating.

One thing I’ve been pondering if criticism of them is based on racism (as has sometimes been alleged), why do they get such a hard time on Lipstick Alley? Some comments on there make this place look positively glowing in comparison!

Criticism of Meghan has never been based on racism. Her heritage has solely been used by those who seek to deflect justified, genuine comment. Which is disgusting, quite honestly.

I thought that the phrasing of the denial was quite interesting

“The Duke and Duchess are not taking part in any reality shows."
Firstly I doubt they would see it as a show like KUWTK . Secondly it is vague enough to leave open the prospect of some kind of family documentary.

@thefatladyscreams

Brilliant post NoFoxToGive

Absolutely.

To be honest it sounds as if it's someone is just mischief making. As many posters have said it's completely unbelievable that HaM would lower themselves to this kind of thing. Same with Doria, that's probably a load of rubbish as well.

@Oldbutstillgotit

I thought that the phrasing of the denial was quite interesting “The Duke and Duchess are not taking part in any reality shows." Firstly I doubt they would see it as a show like KUWTK . Secondly it is vague enough to leave open the prospect of some kind of family documentary.

Agreed although I can see how a documentary about them and by them could go down well if it was done in a certain way.

Meghan has that great American ability of showing an organisation how to make some money so that they can support themselves. So much more important than a photo opportunity. She will be a big loss.

I've been working in the voluntary sector since the early 90s (possibly since before @Royalinsider was born) and every single charity I have worked for - from small local ones to large national ones - has generated income from trading. It's an absolutely standard way for charities to generate income. It's really not some sparkly new American idea. In fact most charities spend a huge amount of time exploring creative ways to make money.

The suggestion that UK charities need a minor actress to waltz in and tell them how to do their work is laughable. As Princess Anne said in a recent documentary; she worked with Save the Children for 10 years before she felt she could make useful contributions. It's a shame Meghan hasn't got that patience and commitment.

Nope. Sometimes it's just not agreeing with posts plain and simple.
I'm not sure why that's so difficult for some posters to understand.
BTW welcome to MN, I see the posts today on here are your first

So what if these are my first posts? I’ve been reading for a long, long time. With respect, this is neither your site nor your thread.

I don’t agree at all that it’s all down to “just not agreeing”. It certainly looks as if there’s a defence squad whose only motivation for even being on these threads is to leap on and spin for Meghan. Why is that even necessary? Why can’t grown ups who are reading exactly the same material as you arrive at their own conclusions?

And that certain posters yell “racism” without any justification whatsoever goes without question. Literally the only people who care one iota what colour Meghan’s skin is are her self-appointed “defenders”. To the rest of us, she’s just a fellow human being.

Also, for all of the “lies & distortion” the “scum” keep printing about these two, is it not extraordinary how much has turned out to be true? Maybe they are not making a “reality show” like the Osbournes or Kardashians, but I’d bet big money a documentary featuring them and lauding their “charity work” is on it’s way. Tomayto, tomarto.

@MissEliza

PC has done some meaningful things over the years. The Prince's Trust has done a lot for young people over the years. Dh has no interest in the royals but attended a charity dinner for it and was impressed at the work that was being done. Big companies aren't going to show up and pay for tables at these things in the long term if it's not a respected charity. Apparently PW has no interest in taking over from him, which is sad.

That was not what I understood MissEliza. William was involved in the documentary about the Duchy, and Charles got quite emotional recalling how touched William was about the work conducted in the Duchy - and acknowledged that he would one day be responsible for it.