Harry and Meghan - everyone still being respectful please

[Oldbutstillgotit]

Lots still to talk about .

I will not contribute to someone's mental health suffering. I will not troll someone in order to make myself feel righteous. Just be kind and let them go. And when you talk about them 'lecturing', if it offends you that much, don't listen. To a lot of people, it's not lecturing. Some people appreciate what they're saying.

Maybe you should read back what you’ve written about Trump in the past. You’ve not been kind and whilst many don’t, including myself, some people appreciate what he says. If he offends you, then don’t listen to him.

Can't believe people are still moaning about Meghan after all this time.

Can't you all see you've been had? Algorithms have manipulated you into looking at articles about her and forming a biased opinion against her that compel you to click on more and more negative and click-baity articles about her so that companies make money. That's all this is! A vicious circle of confirmation bias.

Yep, she's probs done some misguided things in her life but don't believe for a minute that you have a well-researched and substantiated opinion on this woman's life.

My comment was deleted? Care to let me know why @MNHQ? Isn’t this the same site that prides itself on being a nest of vipers? Lol. This place has really gone to shit lately.

www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1346159/meghan-markle-prince-harry-titles-duke-duchess-of-sussex-royal-family-news

Personally I feel that "celebs" should come off all social media if they "feel bullied". Also avoid reading about yourself!!!! (Wasn't it Harry that kept reading what people were saying about him on the internet?)

they put/force themselves out there all the time, jump at every opportunity, try to overshadow RF events with lectures full of word salads trying to show how important, knowledgeable, lucky they are and then when they receive critism they play the victims. they cause it all themselves, all for greed.

what will they do with all 19 bathrooms i dont know.

if you invite the paps thats what you will get.

They could have led a pap free life in the UK, focusing on their patronage s and making a difference there. No-one forced them to issue endless public statements about areas outside their expertise.

I will not contribute to someone's mental health suffering. I will not troll someone in order to make myself feel righteous. Just be kind and let them go. And when you talk about them 'lecturing', if it offends you that much, don't listen. To a lot of people, it's not lecturing.
Some people appreciate what they're saying.

Roussette, if they were actually trying to move away from public attention and go live as private individuals (which, with 36 million in the bank, they could very easily do and still live in comfort for the rest of their lives) I would totally agree with you, but they are actively seeking attention from the public and from the press. Can you really not see this?

I've read the article in the Times where she is quoted as saying she was "the most trolled person on the world."

Here's the thing that is so deeply frustrating- but also fascinating- about her and Harry. I am genuinely sorry she felt so overwhelmed. It must be hard to experience that level of criticism and believe you're doing nothing different to your in-laws.

Why is whatever happens to them so, in their view, outsized relative to others though? "The worst in the world" ? Measured how and by whom? It is this weird way- and possibly it's a consequence of how they express themselves- that suggests what happens to them is always of particular significance, worthy of special outrage, somehow fundamentally different to what others experience/have experienced.

Some people dont agree. Some people feel that many of the problems they currently have with the press and the public were brought on, significantly, by the choices they made. You could also argue it isn't very mature not to acknowledge their role in what is happening, on any level. They took an "act now, apologise later" approach to navigating their new role. This is high risk. Maybe they've learned something from that? Because if not, and they still feel it was the right way forward I cant see an alternative to them developing much thicker skins.

i believe they already have thick skins.

its unbelievable how they match/suit each other.

Why is whatever happens to them so, in their view, outsized relative to others though? "The worst in the world" ? Measured how and by whom? It is this weird way- and possibly it's a consequence of how they express themselves- that suggests what happens to them is always of particular significance, worthy of special outrage, somehow fundamentally different to what others experience/have experienced.

Says the woman posting on a 1000- thread long running series set up specifically to troll Meghan

I rolled my eyes when I read the most trolled person in the world comment.

She keeps telling the rest of us how to live and there is going to be a reaction to that. It's like she wants to have a really loud voice, but she doesn't want the public to be allowed to have a reaction to her voice.
''trolling'' as she calls it is a collective reaction, or a voice. A lot of people do not think her actions and her words are congruent.

She never reads the room. She labels everybody a troll or ''noise'' and she keeps on going. She is entitled to her voice but the public is not entitled to react it seems.

The thread is long as love them or hate them they are a fascinating bubble of contradictions and no one ( maybe not even themselves ) can understand this type of personality.
It might be an emotional intelligence thing but they are in for a bumpy ride .
As I’ve said before the message is frequently good but they seem to believe very strongly they are the ones to deliver it
Sadly because of their contradictions the message is lost
Step back and let the best person speak - it doesn’t always have to be you

@AKissAndASmile

Why is whatever happens to them so, in their view, outsized relative to others though? "The worst in the world" ? Measured how and by whom? It is this weird way- and possibly it's a consequence of how they express themselves- that suggests what happens to them is always of particular significance, worthy of special outrage, somehow fundamentally different to what others experience/have experienced.

Says the woman posting on a 1000- thread long running series set up specifically to troll Meghan

And there aren't any other threads on any other celebrities, politicians, etc on Mumsnet. None whatsoever. Oooh....a few might squeak through...but they're always lovely and totally pleasant, aren't they? It's just the ones on poor Meghan that are always below the belt.

lol.

There's not a been a four year long Trump thread series - which I also post on, I guess that's allowed though - on this site? For example. I guess you object to that as well.

I was watching Sky earlier with dh and a piece came on about H and M. My dh didn't grow up here and has no interest in the RF beyond thinking the Queen is a sweet old lady. He never follows anything to do with the RF. Even he remarked that MM always has to be the victim despite having married into one of the most privileged families in the world. He was also appalled that they would make that video about the US election while continuing to use their British titles. I was interested to hear even he thinks as he has a completely objective opinion about them.

Meghan got a lot of sympathy in the beginning re her half sister and her father. Now not so much. Referring to Samantha as the sister I hardly know was really crass I thought. She never seems to give a thought to how her actions might affect others.

Wow, comparing Meghan to Trump. That's quite a reach there.

Correction. She referred to Samantha in letter to Thomas 'your other daughter who I hardly know.' Ouch.

@AKissAndASmile I couldn't get to the bookmakers in time for your post! It's a shame.

Yes I thought that was quite cold as well @Viviennemary.