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Harry and Meghan biography

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sunshinesupermum · 26/04/2020 12:08

Hasn't Prince Harry learnt anything from his mother's experience of having someone write her biography 'to set the record straight'? Couldn't they have at least waited until after his grandmother's death, however long that might be?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8257071/Meghan-Harry-biography-bombshell-Royals.html

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Defenbaker · 28/04/2020 00:31

For someone who wants a quiet life they're doing the opposite to what would achieve that. I feel sorry for Harry, it's like she's bewitched him and he is totally under her spell. I had my doubts about her motives when they got engaged. I wanted to believe that she was genuinely in love with him, and that she wasn't just after the money and prestige that marrying a prince would bring her, but sadly, I think that my first instinct about her was correct - she is a manipulative and desperate to be the centre of attention, one way or another. This book may bring about the breaking point of their marriage, or it may just drive a permanent wedge between Harry and the rest of his family in the UK. I think he might be happier coming back to the UK, than dancing to MeGain's tune for the rest of his life. He seems like a nice person, I feel sorry for him.

Ineedabreak19 · 28/04/2020 00:32

I can't understand why they issued that letter to the press re future none cooperation if their friends are still talking to the DM. It doesn't make sense to me why they state they don't want to do business with the tabloids. Then you read that their friends have been talking 'exclusively' to the DM. Hypocritical and bizarre. Are the pair of them having some kind of very public breakdown?

bluebell34567 · 28/04/2020 00:49

i think H really wants to stay away from tabloids, but its her doing it via her friends, etc. she wants to be center of attention all the time as Defenbaker said and i agree with her this book may cause problems between them.
H, i believe, still loves his family (W, PC, HM and K) deep down wouldnt want to upset them that much.
H&M had thought they would be equals with W&K but couldnt get their way.

bluebell34567 · 28/04/2020 00:50

H&M had thought they would be equals with W&K but couldnt get their way. and even more more popular than them-i should add.

CallmeAngelina · 28/04/2020 06:32

Didn't another anonymous friend leak to the press a while back that they considered themselves the most popular "draw" of the RF and we're almost single-handedly modernising it. They were reportedly resentful that their contributions were not being recognised in the way they thought they deserved.

Mummyoflittledragon · 28/04/2020 06:45

CallMeAngelina
They really have an inability to reflect upon their actions. Pure narcissism to fail to see this contribution was neither solicited nor wanted. From what I have now learnt this is typical Meghan. She seems to want to tell others how she / they can do things better. Then when they don’t heed her unwarranted advice, she sees this as pure rejection and rejects them.

RosesandIris · 28/04/2020 07:43

blindgossip.com/like-a-puppy-dog/#more-100508

I assume this is about H and M?

caperberries · 28/04/2020 07:46

Someone on Tumblr shared this list of negative articles about KM

Submitted:
A Kate Middleton Primer for Meghan

Pre-Duchess

www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1273304/kate-middleton-news-princess-beatrice-prince-william-tears-disco-spt
www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/life-and-relationships/the-waity-katy-syndrome-20101129-18d5m.html
www.dailymail.co.uk/home/you/article-1049383/Are-Waity-Katy.html
www.independent.ie/life/health-wellbeing/fitness/how-waity-katie-turned-into-the-vanishing-bride-26723445.html
www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2010/aug/29/barbara-ellen-kate-middleton-wedding
m.theglobeandmail.com/life/style/katrina-onstad/kate-middleton-quits-her-day-job/article1891639/?service=mobile
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1023379/Queen-Kate-proper-job-Prince-William-announces-engagement.html
www.mirror.co.uk/3am/celebrity-news/kate-waity-katie-middleton-gets-338462
diary.mailonsunday.co.uk/2009/04/the-future-doesnt-look-bright-for-waity-katie.html
www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1084113/Waity-Katie-wobble-Prince-William-commits-seven-years-RAF.html
www.thetimes.co.uk/article/mirror-apologises-over-kate-middleton-picture-jltczlfmst8
www.newstatesman.com/society/2011/01/kate-middleton-family-social
www.independent.co.uk/news/people/news/a-taste-of-royal-things-to-come-fat-police-on-case-of-bride-to-bes-figure-2267531.html
www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-457874/As-Kate-emerges-tanned-confident-new-Middleton-girl-takes-bow.html
www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1082350/Kates-wisteria-sister-Pippa-reaches-Tatlers-social-tree.html
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/theroyalfamily/7696798/Kate-Middletons-sister-runs-rings-around-jealous-friends.html
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/theroyalfamily/7664375/Kate-Middleton-prepares-for-her-role-as-a-charitable-princess.html
www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1262678/EPHRAIM-HARDCASTLE-Kate-Middleton-wants-ways.html
www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1331065/Kate-Middleton-isnt-posh-marry-Prince-William.html
www.macleans.ca/culture/will-patient-kate-make-it-to-the-finish-line/
www.dailystar.co.uk/news/latest-news/jibe-over-kate-and-sister-17983238
Two Kitchens Kate/Renovations/Home Decor

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2673507/Ripped-gleaming-38-000-kitchen-Duchess-Cambridge-Prince-William-didnt-want.html
www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2673688/RACHEL-JOHNSON-How-two-kitchens-Kate-saved-monarchy.html
www.cbc.ca/news/world/two-kitchen-kate-stirs-royal-spending-ruckus-1.2700198
www.express.co.uk/news/royal/1214761/kate-middleton-news-prince-william-jeremy-corbyn-kensington-royal-family-spt
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2573436/SEBASTIAN-SHAKESPEARE-After-1m-palace-refit-Kate-hates-colour-scheme.html
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2714405/After-4-5m-refit-make-Kensington-Palace-fit-prince-William-Kate-head-live-Norfolk.html
www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3367350/Kate-s-merry-kitschmas-Duchess-turned-Anmer-Hall-temple-tinsel-tat-delight-little-George-TWO-trees-games-Harry-no-Windsor-fuss-just-way-William-wants-it.html
Kate’s Spending

www.forbes.com/sites/meghancasserly/2012/06/25/kate-middleton-54000-clothing-budget-pretty-pittance-or-royal-pain/#48f2b8fc744c
www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2164325/Duchess-Cambridge-spent-35k-wardrobe-year–Prince-Charles-foots-bill.html
www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-5196323/Duchess-Cambridges-119K-shopping-bill.html
Kate’s Family

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1331059/Kate-Middleton-s-family-From-pit-Buckingham-Palace.html
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1263604/Kate-Middletons-family-selling-confetti—cashing-speculation-marriage-Wills-happen-soon.html
www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2379495/Royal-baby-Dont-let-Middletons-relegate-Royals.html
www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-2169944/Pippa-Middleton-Wimbledon-I-worry-believe-royalty.html
www.thesun.co.uk/news/1842976/pippa-middleton-in-nude-blackmail-plot-as-cops-hunt-hacker-who-tried-to-flog-intimate-snaps/
www.thesun.co.uk/news/1973086/kate-middletons-mum-carole-cashes-in-on-sick-killer-clown-craze-by-flogging-scary-costumes-online/
www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2041282/Milly-Dowler-phone-hacking-scandal-Sorry-money-bring-back.html
www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1201059/The-snobs-sneer-like-But-salute-Kate-Middletons-mother–pushy-parent.html
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1548738/Divided-by-family-misfortunes.html
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2980249/Charles-don-t-let-grandson-George-writes-SEBASTIAN-SHAKESPEARE.html
www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2937176/Why-Charles-worried-march-Middletons.html
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2983575/Just-stopping-Charles-seeing-grandson-week-Mail-revealed-Prince-says-hardly-sees-George-friends-blame-Carole-Middleton-does-real-answer-lie-William-Kate.html
www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2984596/GIRL-TOWN-Carole-moves-Royal-housekeeper.html
www.thesun.co.uk/news/3661644/kate-middletons-married-uncle-pestered-mum-and-teen-daughter-to-have-holiday-threesome-weeks-before-pippas-wedding/
www.thesun.co.uk/money/5736430/kate-middletons-mum-cashing-in-on-prince-harry-and-meghan-markles-wedding-by-flogging-decorations/
www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/duchess-cambridge-kate-uncle-fine-assaulting-wife-drugs-row-gary-goldsmith-julie-ann-london-a8081561.html
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5290017/Kates-naughty-Uncle-Gary-Goldsmith-boozy-night-out.html
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6836789/Starting-Middletons-shed-reportedly-worth-30million-Party-Pieces-far-over.html
Spending Christmas in Bucklebury

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4041542/Duke-Duchess-Cambridge-spend-private-Christmas-Middleton-family-joining-Queen-Sandringham.html
www.nzherald.co.nz/lifestyle/news/article.cfm?c_id=6&objectid=11772768
Criticizing her appearance/clothes/self

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2281371/Kate-Middleton-just-Diana-Lite-says-Julie-Burchill-A-N-Wilson-argues-Duchess-Cambridge-textbook-royal.html
www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3533978/Duchess-Cambridge-reveals-pedicured-toes-India.html
www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3530869/Duchess-Drab-s-mystery-cosmos-DOES-beautiful-woman-make-designer-outfits-look-frumpy.html
www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2013700/Kate-Middleton-A-waist-Nicole-Kidman-look-dumpy.html
www.thesun.co.uk/news/4209946/will-kate-ever-be-the-peoples-princess-like-diana/
www.thesun.co.uk/news/4662671/kate-middleton-pregnant-bump-shamed-twitter-trolls/
www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/4500991/its-doing-more-harm-than-good-why-the-duchess-of-cambridge-is-wrong-to-say-we-should-talk-to-kids-about-their-mental-health/
www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/5607660/kate-middleton-shuns-the-all-black-baftas-dress-code-by-wearing-green-and-this-is-the-reason-why/
www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/5736865/meghan-markle-more-beautiful-kate-according-science/
www.independent.co.uk/voices/kate-middleton-has-turned-into-the-duchess-of-drab-a6985921.html
www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/09/26/kate-middleton-dress-scandal-solomon-islands_n_1915592.html
www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2511077/Weighty-Katy-Duchess-Cambridge-weight-hems-like-Queen-avoid-Marilyn-Monroe-moments.html
www.vogue.com.au/fashion/news/this-is-why-kate-middletons-ascot-dress-is-causing-controversy/news-story/2eef45feed7c7bbc155abf9ffc9d9e94
www.independent.co.uk/voices/royal-baby-duke-duchess-cambridge-third-baby-child-tax-credits-rape-clause-a7928666.html
www.eonline.com/news/747720/kate-middleton-criticized-by-peta-u-k-for-wearing-fur-lined-ski-gloves
www.glamour.com/story/kate-middleton-controversy-bobble-hat
www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2154264/Kate-Middleton-Duchess-Cambridges-scarlet-Diamond-Jubilee-dress-stole-show.html
www.thedailybeast.com/wind-catches-kates-skirts-again
www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ottawa-notebook/duchess-will-have-little-to-say-in-canada/article615485/
www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/fashion/duchess-of-cambridge-refuses-to-heed-the-queen-20160414-go6jzq.html
www.express.co.uk/life-style/life/874288/kate-middleton-wedding-duchess-of-cambridge-prince-william-menu-food
www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/ottawa-notebook/duchess-will-have-little-to-say-in-canada/article615485/
www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-3292665/For-pity-s-sake-leave-s-going-grey-eyeliner-s-worrying-new-mum-s-way-growing-army-viciously-cruel-Kate-critics-web-AMANDA-PLATELL-message.html
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3533405/Kate-s-cool-cream-Duchess-Cambridge-picks-1-100-dress-one-favourite-designers-William-face-38C-heat-second-day-India-tour.html
www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2015/dec/14/daily-mail-is-cruel-and-childish-about-the-duchess-of-cambridge
www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-3358698/No-wonder-Kate-looks-shattered-Two-young-children-three-official-functions-week-Christmas-shopping.html
www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/news/hilary-mantel-attacks-bland-plastic-machine-made-duchess-of-cambridge-8500035.html
Leaving George to go to the Maldives

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2576512/Royals-jet-storm-protest-leave-George-home-Maldives-getaway.html
www.vanityfair.com/news/2014/03/reason-why-william-kate-vacationed-without-george
The Do-Littles

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2644414/He-wobbled-Kate-Now-Wills-wobbling-choice-thatll-define-life.html
www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1383273/Royal-Wedding-2011-Kate-Middleton-dont-vanish-Anglesey-mist.html
www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-1331483/Kate-Middleton-It-just-great-looks-princess.html
www.celebitchy.com/487718/in_touch_duchess_kate_hates_being_called_the_duchess_of_do-little_lazy_katie/
www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-4314622/EPHRAIM-HARDCASTLE-Prince-Workshy-Duchess-Little.html
www.thesun.co.uk/news/2506110/prince-charles-did-double-his-sons-work-30yrs-ago-as-wills-and-kate-are-slammed-for-shirking-royal-duties/
www.thesun.co.uk/news/2484703/prince-william-kate-middleton-and-prince-harry-clocked-up-less-public-engagements-than-senior-royals/
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2664596/Wills-decides-Royal-WONT-time-job-opts-pilot-East-Anglia-air-ambulance-closer-home.html
www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2644414/He-wobbled-Kate-Now-Wills-wobbling-choice-thatll-define-life.html
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3583260/PIERS-MORGAN-Good-King-Henry-Harry-make-Sorry-William.html
www.express.co.uk/comment/columnists/richard-palmer/647803/Royal-Family-popularity-Britain-Duchess-Duke-Cambridge-Harry-Queen
www.express.co.uk/news/royal/654056/Duchess-of-Cambridge-Kate-Middleton-work-shy-blasted-Kensignton-Palace
www.marieclaire.co.uk/entertainment/people/queen-prince-william-argument-546822
Media criticism/harassment

www.express.co.uk/news/royal/661454/royal-travel-tour-Bhutan-India-Prince-William-Kate-Middleton
www.mirror.co.uk/opinion/news-opinion/prince-william-kate-just-wont-7769305
www.independent.co.uk/voices/the-media-column-if-the-royal-family-continues-to-push-out-the-press-it-will-put-its-own-future-at-a6929281.html
www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/duke-and-duchess-of-cambridge-warn-paparazzi-to-stop-harassing-prince-george-10455440.html
Will and Other Women

www.thesun.co.uk/news/3117939/sophie-taylor-prince-william-kate-middleton-paris/
www.thesun.co.uk/news/3090408/mum-australian-model-defends-daughter-partying-prince-william-harry/
www.thesun.co.uk/news/3100437/prince-william-dirty-dances-with-two-beauties-and-gyrates-as-model-slut-drops-in-new-embarrassing-footage-during-lads-ski-holiday/
www.pressreader.com/uk/daily-mail/20160325/282067686062323
www.thecut.com/2019/03/what-is-going-on-with-prince-william-and-that-marchioness.html
slate.com/human-interest/2019/04/prince-william-kate-middleton-rose-hanbury-cholmondeley-rumors.html
The Feud

www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-6811347/The-Fab-Fours-split-isnt-just-Prince-Harry-William-writes-RICHARD-KAY.html
www.eonline.com/news/985501/why-kate-middleton-is-eager-to-be-back-in-the-royal-spotlight
www.thesun.co.uk/fabulous/5831880/people-think-queen-accidentally-revealed-likes-kate-middleton-more-than-meghan-markle/
www.thesun.co.uk/news/5693513/meghan-markle-kate-middleton-body-language-public-appearance/
www.thesun.co.uk/news/6297247/meghan-markle-is-bigger-star-than-kate-middleton-according-to-royal-wedding-edition-of-top-trumps/
pagesix.com/2019/04/27/meghan-markle-feels-sorry-for-kate-middleton-over-forced-baby-photos/

ToastedHaMSandwich · 28/04/2020 07:49

There doesn’t seem to be any self reflection on what may be causing such negativity. She appears to believe she should have unwavering adulation whatever she does and only her opinion matters. There is no, it appears, alternative viewpoint than her own.

Perhaps she could study debating online. Where one needs to debate an alternative viewpoint to their own personal belief to be able to consider all angles and aspects of a situation.

As examples, she dominated the Fab 4 interview with her own views and shut down others with different views. Writing on bananas for sex workers - crass. Advising hubb kitchen that untrained (hygiene and food safety standards) people in their own, not hygiene rated, homes should cook for vulnerable people during a pandemic with a deadly virus which remains active on certain hard surfaces and about which scientists and doctors are still grappling with.

So we hear she’s said to H, if you love me and want our marriage to last do this. Similar to what H purportedly texted to TM, if you love Meg blah blah do x.

All instructions and demands according to her own held beliefs. Didn’t she wonder why the RF didn’t create a media storm on her request. Because they knew it would inflame a situation and she was the one giving the media the faux pas situations to print. They should have asked for guidance from BP PR.

RosesandIris · 28/04/2020 07:52

I wonder if it’s something to do with being an only child and having a doting father who thought she was the bees knees?

caperberries · 28/04/2020 07:52

It isn't the media that have been nasty about M & H, it's mainly the readers in the comments sections.

The comments were just as nasty about Kate and Pippa, and about Harry's ex Cressida.

The truth is that Meghan's antics have made Kate look fabulous by comparison. And now the comments about Kate are OTT favourable. It must rankle, but Meghan has played her hand so badly and doesn't seem to learn from her mistakes.

If they'd left the RF, abandoned their titles etc and quietly gone underground without leaks etc, people may have regained respect for them. In time, they could have reemerged and rebuilt a compelling new image.

Oldbutstillgotit · 28/04/2020 08:06

@ caperberries that’s quite a list ! I only dipped in but there is some cutting criticism of Kate but I don’t remember her whinging.

Oldbutstillgotit · 28/04/2020 08:07

It’s C and W’s wedding anniversary tomorrow and Charlotte’s birthday on Saturday so I assume we will hear from LA ?

FannyCann · 28/04/2020 08:09

Harry is trending on twitter. He's read a book...get Disney in speed dial.

twitter.com/time/status/1255029537676591106?s=21

ToastedHaMSandwich · 28/04/2020 08:10

Completely agree with above posts. They wanted a private quiet life they said. H has said previously how Africa is very important to them.

Give the dear boy an atlas someone.

How did they end up in LaLa Land based on the scripts they were feeding the RF and public.

Still having friends talk to the media. PR stunts having to be re-run as no favourable photo opportunities from first outing and people didn’t recognise them with their faces covered up - so they had to tell people who they were and then have those people interviewed to sell to the press, all in a time when non essential contact is the guidance during lockdown. They have crazy ideas

JacobReesMogadishu · 28/04/2020 08:11

So Meghan thinks if the papers had been slagging off Kate then the papers would have been shunned?

Did she miss the years of the papers slagging off Kate, slagging off Camilla, slagging off Charles, slagging off Diana, Andrew, Fergie?

No newspapers were “shunned”. RF modus operandi seems to be very much ignore it, keep smiling, this will pass. And it generally does.

RosesandIris · 28/04/2020 08:13

The problem is Harry did want a quiet life. He did want to spend a lot of time in Africa. However, Meghan wants fame and fortune and lots of publicity. The last thing she wants is a quiet life. So they’re doing what she wants... as usual.

SquishyFishy · 28/04/2020 08:21

@FannyCann

He couldn't possibly have read a book that didn't have Royal in the title, could he 😁

FannyCann · 28/04/2020 08:22
Grin
Oldbutstillgotit · 28/04/2020 08:23

@ FannyCann Thomas The Tank Engine .

Mamamia456 · 28/04/2020 08:25

Ritascornershop - "And did no one prep her about how royal women are generally pilloried until the press bores of it. No one can say that Fergie, Kate or Camilla had an easy time of it. A divorced American actress was hardly going to get a pass."

This makes everything OK does it? That we should just accept that women marrying into the Royal family are " pilloried by the press" and that if they just accept it and keep quiet that they have somehow passed a test?

Why are you condoning this behaviour towards women?

Madasahattersteaparty1749 · 28/04/2020 08:27

I read that he recorded the Thomas Tank Engine story back in January. The photo of him looks really happy what a difference a few months makes.

CanIHaveAPenguinPlease · 28/04/2020 08:35

Of course it’s not ok to be pilloried but it’s what does happen, and she wasn’t singled out was she? Yes I actually do think they should have just ignored it. But that’s my opinion.

Oldbutstillgotit · 28/04/2020 08:36

@ Mamamia456 no one is condoning it . Some of the behaviour towards RF women is awful . The point most people are making is that M is suggesting SHE has had a tougher ride than others which most people do not think is true .
I was really happy for H when M arrived in his life now I just worry for him.

RosesandIris · 28/04/2020 08:39

Maybe it would have helped if she’d tried to understand where the negative criticism was coming from and what perception she was creating. Tried to change tactics, listen to advice etc. Camilla and Sophie came back from very negative Press by working hard, keeping their egos in check and supporting the Queen. That’s what they’re paid for effectively. M wasn’t being paid in houses, perks and clothes to promote her own agenda. She was there to do a job.