Harry and Meghan biography

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Hasn't Prince Harry learnt anything from his mother's experience of having someone write her biography 'to set the record straight'? Couldn't they have at least waited until after his grandmother's death, however long that might be?

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8257071/Meghan-Harry-biography-bombshell-Royals.html

The Thomas 75th will have been planned for a year, Harry will have been approached by October at the latest to set this up. The timing is a bit unfortunate but that’s the way it goes.

No one is condoning the behaviour. Pointing to reality and stating MM’s perception of the press is inaccurate is not the same as saying the tabloids/broadsheets are doing a great job.

Winter, I think this is one of points when I just feel my reality check bounces on these forums.

1. The press can be inaccurate and unkind, but this is directed toward all female (and male at occasion) members or all royal families.

1. The scrutiny of the looks of the female members of royal families is sexist and uncomfortable reading at times.

1. The comments under the articles (and Instagram) seem to be absolutely dreadful at times and crosses all lines of what is remotely acceptable. But these are comments and not the articles. Maybe here MM had a worse time, but I try to avoid comments, so I have no idea.

I have never argued that MM did not get her share of this and it is of course awful for her. I just don’t buy into this peddled narrative that she was worse treated than anyone else.

The current criticism is very much directed at their actions.

This makes everything OK does it? That we should just accept that women marrying into the Royal family are " pilloried by the press" and that if they just accept it and keep quiet that they have somehow passed a test?

Why are you condoning this behaviour towards women?
Nobody is condoning it, but it's simply not the case that all other partners and wives got a free pass and have been adored by the press.

It does seem like Meghan either didn't get the memo that the press have form, or she thought that because she's a celebrity they'd automatically fall in love with her.

MoreHippo, I agree. I also think that other than HMQ, female members of the RF bear the brunt of media criticism. But I also tend to believe the criticism eventually would have dissipated.

I’m certain it’s not the nicest thing to read. But reading these comments can be avoided. I think, though, one must have a strong sense of self.

I believe what would be more difficult would be the paparazzi, and being stalked during the most mundane moments of your life. See the link for what Kate had to endure before marriage. It seems to me that MM didn’t seem to mind the cameras, for the most part, and she never was exposed to the level of paparazzi stalking KM or Diana endured.

m.youtube.com/watch?v=KhByqJeXNag

The press weren't responsible for this behaviour - they only reported it.

The long-standing Wimbledon fan told the Sun: ‘I honestly couldn’t care less about taking a picture of Meghan, Harry or any of the royals – and if I did, I’d ask first. ‘I was much more interested in getting a video of Roger Federer in action.’ The Duchess caused a stir when fans were ordered not to take pictures as she sat with two female friends in the royal box on July 4. She was branded ‘childish’ and a ‘control freak’ after her security crew warned spectators against taking images. Her sister-in-law Kate Middleton had attended a few days earlier and was happy to sit among the crowds and be photographed.

metro.co.uk/2019/07/12/wimbledon-fan-told-off-meghan-markle-selfie-not-know-royal-10210551/

The press weren't responsible for this behaviour - they only reported it.

A royally expensive party! Meghan Markle's baby shower cost a staggering $430,000, including the $75,000-a-night venue and the $125K private jet she took each way

www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-6725591/Meghan-Markles-baby-shower-cost-revealed.html

I lost all respect for Amal Clooney and her humanitarian outpourings too after her over-the-top three day wedding extravaganza in Venice.

Live that way if you must, but at least accept the consequences.

Winterlife. Wow !
The paparazzi stalking Kate on that clip you posted was horrendous.
Oh my word.

And George Clooney too.

I think the idea that 'if it happened to Kate it wouidn't have been tolerated' is just plain wrong.

There's plenty of evidence to the contrary linked to this thread, and I guess all/most people here can remember it.

And no, as I said in earlier parts of this thread, it's not right. Even though it happened to all the women to married in - and to a certain extent those who were born in too (notably Princess Anne and Prince Edward)

Harry is however different as he was the spouse who said 'this isn't right, so I am going to remove my family from it'. And good on him.

The snag is that so many of the actions since making that decision have been entirely counterproductive to that aim.

They need to fix the leaky friends for a start. Harry's circle was almost entirely leak-proof (in quite interesting circumstances) before his marriage, so it can be done.

The book has walking disaster written all over it. I hope that all the reports about it are just plain wring. Because if you are putting your private life into the public domain, then can be globally considered fair game. Restricting it just to the bits you want commenting on can be a difficult balance to pull off. But of course they do have the immense advantage that the Royal Family doesn't comment.

@WinnieTheW0rm, I don’t believe MM’s friends are leaking stories without her consent.

And this was last year. I don’t recall Meghan being harassed to this degree & was very surprised that Kate was tbh

www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-6658423/amp/Kate-Middleton-celebrates-mother-Caroles-birthday-party-Pippas-house.html

I think Meghan might have quite enjoyed sashaying through that crowd of photographers.

The paparazzi stalking Kate on that clip you posted was horrendous

IIRC that was when Chelsey was Harry's girlfriend and both she and Kate were badly harassed. There's no other word for it.

Either William or be th William and Harry took legal steps to rein in the press - which was then unprecedented protection for girlfriend. But as the harassment extended to when they were in their cars, I can see why they felt it should be done.

Meghan of course did not experience anything like that in the few months she was was here as girlfriend. And the 'royal' protection always included fiancées (a time when she was definitely closely in the fold, with unprecedented Christmas invitation)

Winter and Hippo spot on as usual.

As it happens I think the current article is not based on new information, but a dredged up and cobbled together one by the Mail. I think it's the sort of article where H&M might well be justified in their complaint. It's done out of spite, to prove the point that they don't need the Sussexes' engagement or permission to create copy.

But they got into this dreadful relationship with the media under their own steam. Their appalling behaviour has been very newsworthy. This is a battle they are going to lose, in the most grisly way possible.

Ah yes, considering the wedding and H's childhood friends. Wasn't it reported that they were bumped from the reception in favour of their 'celeb' friends? I wonder if that was actually true...

But the photos showed none of H’s friends at the wedding. But lots of celebs. And no previous years of close association has been found with MM and most of the celebs.

It’s just pointing to the foundations for building links with celebs ready for a move to USA. A meticulous plan at that stage including a foundation with royalty attached to it and trademarked.

MM’s beef with KM started with her only being invited to Pippa’s wedding reception but not the ceremony.

I did that was poor form of Pippa tbh as they were engaged by this point.

If the latest DM article is just a mash up, you’d think H&M would say so.
I know they have pushed back against stories about their extravagance, but have they ever denied any of the stories trashing the other Royals that have come from their friends?
I can’t remember seeing this, but maybe I missed it.
If they haven’t though, it shows where their priorities lie - with their own public image, and stuff everyone else, even their own families.

I think the fundamental error Meghan made was to misunderstand what the monarchy is all about. She seems to have thought that bringing glamour, albeit whilst attending charity events, was what it had been waiting for all these years since Diana died.
The Monarchy is founded on something much deeper-rooted than that - it has lasted for 1000 years for a start. The Hollywood way of doing it is, a) very recent and, b) not the best example anyway.

I don't think H&M were engaged at the time of Pippa's wedding. Otherwise Meghan would have qualified under the alleged "no ring, no bring" rule.
And all the Middletown's were invited to H&M's, so the "offence" can't have rankled that deeply.

I did that was poor form of Pippa tbh as they were engaged by this point.

They weren't engaged by this point. They were engaged in Nov 2017 and PM got married in May 2017.

In fairness, PM didn't invite her SIL to be VW, either!

I remember the press being dismissive and downright nasty when Kate was suffering with HG during her pregnancy with George, the comments over MM touching her pregnancy bump pale in comparison. I'm not saying it was right to comment on the bump touching but a bit of perspective is needed, H&M's poor me victim narrative doesn't stand up to scrutiny.

I don't support the vilification by the press of any royal females and it should/could be addressed across the board but MM's treatment was not the exception H&M are claiming it was/is.

Had Meghan been at Pippa's wedding there would have been a scramble to get photos of her and Harry. Fair play to Pippa that she may not have wanted her own wedding to be sidetracked by that.

Well H&M had only met in July 2016 so less than a year relationship when Pippa married. I don’t think it’s unreasonable she didn’t get an invite

I agree that MM seems to believe the press have castigated her more than any other. But this just isn’t the case.

Again, not saying I condone press intrusion. But it isn’t more than. And she kept giving them plenty of ammunition for click bait headlines. Just ones she didn’t like.