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The royal family

Harry and Megs in LA

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RosesandIris · 27/03/2020 11:23

Continuing on from the last thread.

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derxa · 27/03/2020 17:06

Cant imagine she's enjoying Birkhall with Chazza shouting down the corridor at her between coughing fits. Grin I really hope they're alright though

OVienna · 27/03/2020 17:11

If Harry decides to live in the US permanently (green card, etc), he will have to pay tax on his worldwide income, as has been said previously.

He can in theory work around being a permanent resident and tax thing by good tax advice and BUT ALSO by being out of the country for certain periods of time. However, it is complicated because the number of days you are allowed in the US as a foreign national does not restart from a particular date and run for a period of a year (Jan to Jan.) If you spend a certain number of days in the US one year - like if you max out the number of allowed days - the number of days you are allowed to spend there the following year goes down.

It's very complicated and a tough way to manage family life. I do not pretend to know all of the ins and outs but I only have a window into this from a dear friend who is also an expat but whose husband was not a US national (similarly minted to Harry, in fact, although not his Dad). She talked me through this during one of the periods I was thinking of renouncing. She was desperate to go back - nearly ended the marriage tbh. Not a chance did he want to be a US green card holder. For a little while, they came up with a solution to spend half the school year in one country and half in the other. It worked for a few years and was not ideal but done out of my friend's (admitted) desperation. In addition to the disruption to the children's education, the reason they ended up going back was that her husband was becoming limited in the number of days he could spend there for each subsequent year.

Honestly - there are loads and loads of rich people who go to the US, much richer than Harry with more to offer in terms of investment. I can't see him getting cut a deal, immigration-wise.

The LA plan, if it's permanent residence, schooling for Archie etc, means a tough life for Harry, potentially. Their behaviour so far doesn't feel like they think much of these things through too deeply.

iVampire · 27/03/2020 17:12

So much for principled stand against Trump

SussexRoyalPenguin · 27/03/2020 17:16

Oh yes, I did mean Duchess of Cornwall Blush

OVienna is your friend Gwyneth Paltrow?

OVienna · 27/03/2020 17:24

Lol - SussexRoyalPenguin

No. They were not based in London. They were based somewhere non-English speaking and also with a high crime right. (Not in this hemisphere or this side of the Atlantic.)

OVienna · 27/03/2020 17:25

You have to be rich to have two passports. I am an only child and have to hang onto mine. But it's a ballache.

Myimaginarypenguinhasfleas · 27/03/2020 17:26

Thanks for that explanation, OVienna. It does sound very complicated.

Does H actually have any worldwide income?

I know all the royals do it, but I find the whole tax avoidance thing difficult to justify. Surely one of the things we expect from the monarchy is that they set an example, a higher standard by which we should all aim to live. Part of that, to me, is being transparent about your earnings and paying whatever tax is due. Taxes which then go to provide benefits and services for the whole country, including its poorest.

If they are indeed planning their residency options to minimise what they pay, that doesn't seem right.

OVienna · 27/03/2020 17:27

His British income is what he'd have to declare. Also, there are inheritance tax implications, in principle, which I am sure Prince Charles et al would look forward to unpicking with the sort of tax advisors required to help out (not cheap.)

OVienna · 27/03/2020 17:34

I cannot even describe to you the stress it can cause, if you are a pleb and have to sort this out yourself. I guess if she is going to be the main earner, it would make sense for them to live there though from a tax perspective. And yet she spent all of that time in Canada, so who knows?

Anyway - good luck to them.

OVienna · 27/03/2020 17:48

I"ve killed a Megan and Harry thread. Can you believe?

ButteryPuffin · 27/03/2020 17:54

Hello and good wishes to the poorly penguins, puffins and other participants.

Great message from Camilla. She and Charles are doing well on the comms front with that and their clapping video.

@OVienna that's really interesting. I didn't know it was that complicated. Definitely spells tough choices ahead for Harry. Can't see the Trump administration cutting him any slack.

FromEden · 27/03/2020 17:58

A green card is seen as a temporary step towards citizenship. What would the implications be for Harry, as a person who is in the line of succession for the british throne, becoming an american citizen? Would that even be allowed? I'm sure the queen et al would not be too keen on that.

BelleharePenguin09 · 27/03/2020 17:58

BarleylemonPenguin

they hold a hoot I keep fascination

Made sense to me...

Grin To me too actually. Think it might be autocorrect’s use of “hoot”...

OVienna · 27/03/2020 18:03

Cressy Bonas' Insta is rocking it too.

We will soon be upon 31 March. Will they relaunch? Or just go offline, do you think?

OVienna · 27/03/2020 18:04

But yes, sensible post, like Duchess of Cornwall's post.

HarryDaylight · 27/03/2020 18:19

I remember reading in the Sunday Times, when Harry and Meghan became engaged, that there were concerns from Buck. Palace regarding the tax situation with Meghan if she became a UK citizen, and paid taxes in both US and UK.

They didn't look forward to the US Tax Authorities having the right to access their very complicated accounts.

It'll be a major headache for them if Harry takes out dual citizenship.

ButteryPuffin · 27/03/2020 18:20

What are his options re staying long term in the US without pursuing any form of US citizenship on his own account?

JudgeRindersMinder · 27/03/2020 18:31

@OVienna, thanks for your explanations. I do wonder if H will have a period of genuinely being a SAHD-it may well do his mental health a lot of good

MissEliza · 27/03/2020 18:42

I don't think a green card is seen as a temporary step to citizenship. I know lots of people who have lived in the states for years on a green card without taking citizenship. I agree it is problematic if H takes it due to the tax issue.

7Penguins · 27/03/2020 18:43

I don’t know, if I am to judge by my mat leave I’d say looking after small children full time requires more mental fortitude than many jobs. 🤔

Andylion · 27/03/2020 19:02

from the previous thread:
the Canadian president

Prime Minister.

Ritascornershop · 27/03/2020 19:14

@Andylion - I’m curious what role this Canadian president plays in our parliamentary system? Is he like Trump, but speaking French? If we had a president, does that mean QE2 is no longer the head of state? Confused Grin

Puzzledandpissedoff · 27/03/2020 19:18

Surely one of the things we expect from the monarchy is that they set an example, a higher standard by which we should all aim to live

Well that's certainly how they used to present themselves, but sadly that ship sailed when information on behaviour which would once have been hidden became available to the plebs

How they must hate it ...

ARoseInHarlem · 27/03/2020 19:26

All talk of visa and immigration and tax rules wrt Harry misses the point. There’s only one Harry Windsor, and he’s of strategic importance to UK-US relations. Same goes for Andy. A bespoke deal will be struck so he gets what he wants. Normal rules won’t apply to him (they don’t apply to many people with enough money or importance).

Different matter for MM as, if divorced, she goes back to being a plea with normal rules applying.

Archie, as Harry’s son, would get the same treatment Harry gets should they ever divorce, and MM could piggy back off that.

ARoseInHarlem · 27/03/2020 19:26
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