Harry & Meghan - watching and waiting (no.13)

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A new thread in which to discuss what happens next in this saga.

And best wishes to mustress and thanks for her excellent thread titles.

Ah, so it's a specific protection to royal family then?

"There is a growing concern in both academia and the media about so-called “echo chambers” or “bubbles” within which individuals expose themselves only to information that reinforces their existing views, and the extent to which the advent of social media has exacerbated this problem."

That's very interesting and explains all the resistance when dissenting voices arrived on this thread.

Link to idle chatter:

HERE

unmentioned I'm pretty sure that "their" is referring to representatives of the RF .

currently feeling v nauseuous* ( chronic side effect of earlier ill health ) so if the food pictures carry on ( chat is ok ! ) I'll be absent in despatches .

• apologies for spelling

Pink gin solution: lots of fresh lemon. don't just pop a slice in the glass, but cut a quarter and give it a good squuze, then use peel to wipe along the outside of the glass along the rim. That way when you take a sip, you get the smell of lemon first, then the taste, and that mitigates the effect of the pink gin.

Now following my own advice with the vile blueberry gin I was given for Christmas.

HTH

@Roussette That is interesting. I did my ethnography on two rival professional circles that had heated 'debates' on Twitter and the polarising effect of the echo chamber was a large driving force. As a member of that profession it was interesting to reflect on how it had fueled my own preferences.

It helps explain the 'anti-Meghan' phenomena here as well I think. Commercial interests exploit these echo chambers as well. Politically, for example, a lot of money was poured into Brexit to suck people into bubbles, and work out who to target. In terms of Meghan and Harry, the echo chamber has fuelled the demand for damaging stories, which then hardens the attitudes within echo chambers and increases demand etc. A vicious circle. And the algorithms employed by the platforms drive it further, controversy and vitriol are useful currency, and they push posts that are most likely to suck you further in to your bubble and keep you on their platform. Anyway, sorry to derail, but I am very interested in the why behind all this!

Poor you perdito hope the nausea passes

Anyway, sorry to derail, but I am very interested in the why behind all this!

Me too, especially as threads like this have never lasted without being zapped before and these threads have had a weird dynamic AFAIC.

Thanks Rousette - it will ,I mainly need to keep still and semi recumbant . I sound like a bike !

Can I ask a very uninformed question - if someone clicks on a link to say the DM ,or goes directly there ,does that somehow generate income for the paper ?

Rockingchair interesting theory which I am certain has it's merits. I will say that I was a fan of theirs and casually followed them and others of the RF on insta (I am not very discriminating on there - it's mostly dug posts too.) I did not follow the RF media basically because I am so distressed by Brexit Trump etc. Tbh they were the small bit of good news in public life.

What put me right off was the Instagram
Announcement and their website. The whole manner they seem to have hives out things. I am not a DM reader and also not on Twitter. I appreciate there has been wired of crap going on there I was oblivious too but I haven't been goaded into criticism of the by those sources

Its merits sorry

Lawyers are one group of people who will do well out of the Sussex situation no matter what.

Dog posts as well. Bah - I'll fill the thread correcting typos

perdito - the more clicks they get, the more they can charge for the advertising. So yes, but indirectly.

Buttery totally. Through work I have insight into HNW clients. I try to avoid, it's a horrible gig IME. Some people really enjoy it. Not for me.

That's interesting OVenna. I wonder how many people who previously supported them/wasn't anti them have been turned off by the manner of their exit?

I like them and support their decision to leave, but I think the exit was poorly handled and felt like a flounce.

Vienna I'm not on Instagram ,was the announcement of doing things a new way announced differently on H&M's instagram ? Differently from their website I mean ?

Rousette I've never been involved in a thread like this on MN ,I'm interested that you think it was unusual for it not get pulled .

I have a question. Have read so many times that Meghan is a strong advocate of feminism, female education etc, and that prior to meeting PH she was passionate about these causes.

But, in real terms, what did she actually do about them, other than fly out to a couple of places and have some photos taken of her looking concerned at various impoverished ransoms.

Did she ever actually roll up her sleeves, pitch in and get her hands dirty for substantial amounts of time?

Sorry, impoverished randoms not ransoms.

@peridito I hope you feel better soon, too - it must really take its toll. I think clicking on DM links then increases their ad revenue as they monitor the traffic and this contributes to how they are paid or how much they can charge. On Twitter they often post screenshots of articles so you don't give them traffic. But now I've stopped to think about it I realise I'm not to hot on how it all works!

@OVienna that is interesting, so the DM and Twitter can't be influencing you? I completely understand about the Brexit/ Trumo effect, I don't follow current affairs as much because it terrifies me, not very responsible.

I probably started the other way to you, where I didn't have much time for the Royals, inc H and M but then I was influenced by the press they got and felt more sympathy. On my Twitter echo chamber I saw a lot of the comparison pieces, for example, where they looked at the nicer headlines for Kate than for Meghan doing the same things (bump stroking etc). Perhaps the Instagram coverage was less favourable or the accounts you follow? Thanks though, that's made me think!

I can't be alone. I became aware of the Africa interview afterwards and that would have if I had known about it I suppose. As an American the coverage there also pisses me off. They were obsessed with her marrying him - like batshit about it- now we're the most racist horrible country in the world. It's ridiculous. But you can't expect the US media to be smart about "international news" in most cases.

Thank you Guy ,now I understand ! How is your cat ?

OVienna what are HNW clients ?

High Net Worth

Their teams of "advisors" to "protect their privacy" can be a little scary, if you're a fan of freedom of the press...not saying that's the case here but I do get why MN has to be careful...

Did she ever actually roll up her sleeves, pitch in and get her hands dirty for substantial amounts of time

I don’t think most celebrities do; they just shine a light on the cause.
Meghan went to India & Rwanda during her holidays from Suits.
She also named the Indian charity, for period poverty as one of the charities to receive donations in lieu of wedding gifts. ( I was very Impressed with her at that point)

Rocking if the DM is being quoted in other articles you have to be aware of it. Which they do sometimes. I am trying to stick to what they put out themselves and say. We will see how things develop.